NEW StrangeBrew Elsinore Thread

[jangevaa]

Typically I and D values aren't really necessary for home brewing applications because we don't have much lag in our monitoring systems... we heat water, we have a temp probe in that water, you know. I just use a P value and it is more than sufficient!

I use SBE for fermentation control and keg fridge control. Lots of details of my stuff on my website onbrewing.com... ask me whatever you'd like! I don't frequent HBT, but I am subscribed to this thread.

 

[storunner13]

Thanks for the link, maybe I'll grab a small DC Motor from a parts box and see how it acts when hooked up to an SSR in Manual Mode. It might be an interesting experiment.

Wyzazz--did you ever try this out? I'm looking at some 12/24v pumps and thinking about modulating to match sparge/lauter speeds.

 

[waverz]

Well crap, I literally just finished building a small EBIAB system using an Auberins PID controller. This looks like it would be A LOT more fun. I already have the SSR and a few DS18B20's laying around. I might need to purchase another RPI and do a re-build.

 

[wyzazz]

It really is a lot of fun, check out CraftBeerPi as well.

 

[esva_rig]

I've recently just attempted to import an XML from BeerSmith (2.3.7) that has a water profile in it. I cannot seem to get it to load properly into Elsinore unless I remove the <water> section from it. Has anyone else had this problem? It's a simple enough solution to remove it from the .xml prior to importing it, but it would be nice if I didn't have to take that extra step.
Thanks in advance!

p.s. this is cross-posted at reddit https://www.reddit.com/r/StrangeBrew/comments/5o4u1z/importing_beersmith_xmls_with_water_profile/

 

[newtonfb]

is it possible to get real-time temperature data or will there always be a delay?

 

[stratslinger]

There's always going to be some amount of delay. I think someone either here or on the reddit posted instructions at one point on how you can configure that delay to a shorter increment of time, but doing so tended to increase the load on the Pi - the shorter the delay, the more increase in CPU utilization. For some reason, I want to say a 2-3 second delay was about as good as you could get before bogging down the Pi altogether.

 

[golfindia]

I've been messing with SBE. Everything works great, no problems. The first time I set it up, I attempted to add more than 2 "switches" and software took a dump. I reset it with just 2 "switches" and all is well. Is there a two "switch" limitation? I saw some reddit posts that sort of allude to that, but not very clear.

 

[ArmOnFire]

I have recently been using the mash tun temp sensor to drive a pump to circulate through my HERMS coil, holds the temperature nicely.
Also, the manual setting for the rolling boil is dialed in pretty good.

Are there similar options with CBPi?

I will probably give CBPi a try once I have a little more free time.

 

[jgalak]

Oops, wrong thread. Please disregard.

 

[user 101620]

I've been messing with SBE. Everything works great, no problems. The first time I set it up, I attempted to add more than 2 "switches" and software took a dump. I reset it with just 2 "switches" and all is well. Is there a two "switch" limitation? I saw some reddit posts that sort of allude to that, but not very clear.

Could you get the logs and provide them please?

 

[golfindia]

Could you get the logs and provide them please?

I formatted the disk, so log is gone. I'll re add switches and make another one.

 

[HollywoodMX]

I have recently been using the mash tun temp sensor to drive a pump to circulate through my HERMS coil, holds the temperature nicely.
Also, the manual setting for the rolling boil is dialed in pretty good.

Are there similar options with CBPi?

I will probably give CBPi a try once I have a little more free time.

How are you doing that exactly? I want that lol!

 

[ArmOnFire]

How are you doing that exactly? I want that lol!

Pumps must have a SSR wired to the outlet they will be plugged into, I built my panel with a HAND/OFF/AUTO switch for each as well.
Hand position applies 5VDC to the SSR (need a regulated 5VDC power supply).
Off - self explanatory
Auto position - I have this tied to GPIO on the Pi. In Elsinore, the Mash Tun temp sensor is associated to this GPIO (18) for Heat GPIO, then setup the cycle time and PID values.

In use, I keep the HLT (with the HERMS coil) set for 10 deg F above the desired MT temp setpoint. My MT is a 10g cooler, so it cycles on a few times during the mash. Having good luck using it this way the last few batches.

Edit: you have to prime the pump manually before putting it into auto, so after I mash in, I note how off I am on my target temp, prime the pump, flood the HERMS coil, run a little in manual to set the pump discharge valves, then put it in auto.

Boil - I don't think you were asking about this, but for others, Manual mode, cycle time 12-15 sec, at 90-95%, seems to maintain a nice boil.

Let me know if this makes sense or if you have any questions.

 

[HollywoodMX]

Pumps must have a SSR wired to the outlet they will be plugged into, I built my panel with a HAND/OFF/AUTO switch for each as well.
Hand position applies 5VDC to the SSR (need a regulated 5VDC power supply).
Off - self explanatory
Auto position - I have this tied to GPIO on the Pi. In Elsinore, the Mash Tun temp sensor is associated to this GPIO (18) for Heat GPIO, then setup the cycle time and PID values.

In use, I keep the HLT (with the HERMS coil) set for 10 deg F above the desired MT temp setpoint. My MT is a 10g cooler, so it cycles on a few times during the mash. Having good luck using it this way the last few batches.

Edit: you have to prime the pump manually before putting it into auto, so after I mash in, I note how off I am on my target temp, prime the pump, flood the HERMS coil, run a little in manual to set the pump discharge valves, then put it in auto.

Boil - I don't think you were asking about this, but for others, Manual mode, cycle time 12-15 sec, at 90-95%, seems to maintain a nice boil.

Let me know if this makes sense or if you have any questions.

Pictures! I'm a bit noobish on what you were mentioning. Without pictures or a diagram I am a bit lost.

Thanks for the boil info I always have to screw with mine, its the number one thing I mess with on brew day. I will try yours.

 

[user 125772]

I downloaded the latest from the GitHub Monday, and found (after pulling half my hair out) that the TCP port in the extras/elsinore.debian is wrong.

ELSINORE_PATH=/root/SB
PATH=/sbin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin
DESC="StrangeBrew Elsinore Brewery Controller"
NAME="Elsinore"
DAEMON=$ELSINORE_PATH/launch.sh
PID=/var/run/elsinore.pid
ELSINORE_PORT=8088 <<<
ELSINORE_CONF=$ELSINORE_PATH/elsinore.cfg

hope this helps someone.

 

[rappell]

Don’t know if anyone is still monitoring this thread, looking for help. I have Hosehead 5 with the latest strangebrew Elsinore. After I load a Beersmith xml file and use it then hit the clear xml button, the steps don’t clear out of the element box. They stay there and if I load another xml file, it just tagges on to the end. How do I fix this? Thanks for any help.....

 

[delium55]

I am in the process to install Strangebrew and this command don't work; apt-get install git-core oracle-java7-jdk lshw sudo nano

Someone have the correct command?

Thank in advance.

 

[LBussy]

I am in the process to install Strangebrew and this command don't work; apt-get install git-core oracle-java7-jdk lshw sudo nano

Did you type "sudo" at the beginning of that line?

 

[delium55]

Did you type "sudo" at the beginning of that line?

Yes, i did.

 

[LBussy]

Well, I suppose if you tell us what error you got we might be able to help more.

 

[day_trippr]

Why is there a "sudo nano" with no file specifier at the end?

 

[LBussy]

Aha, that might be it. I think you may want two commands:

apt-get install git-core oracle-java7-jdk lshw
sudo nano {need a file name here}

 

[delium55]

Aha, that might be it. I think you may want two commands:

apt-get install git-core oracle-java7-jdk lshw
sudo nano {need a file name here}

Good morning LBussy,

Yes, not need sudo nano.

Java7-sdk is obsolete.

the command change for sudo apt-get install default-jdk that will install the last version of OpenJDK java version 11, found this there Install Java for the Raspberry Pi

Thank again.

 

[delium55]

French translation, extract the attached file and put in Strangebrew Elsinore Server/src/main/java/com/SB/elsinore/nls

 

[delium55]

StrangeBrew Elsinore re-wrtie

https://github.com/DougEdey/elsinore/#heavily-under-development