NEW StrangeBrew Elsinore Thread

[user 101620]

Ok. I'm an idiot.... I thought when it said defaults to that if I hit enter that is what it would use. I have it working now. Thanks Doug.

No, it should have defaulted to 4304, and it should've checked for blank inputs. I've added debug incase it happens again to tell me what it picked up.

 

[Doublej0305]

Do a check for updates, you're on a version with a bug.

I though I installed it using this (from the first page of this thread)

https://github.com/DougEdey/SB_Elsinore_Server

I'll give it another go
Thanks

 

[Doublej0305]

Same problem; is there a different way to get the update than using "git clone https://github.com/DougEdey/SB_Elsinore_Server"
I went into Pi and deleted everything Elsinore and basically starting from scratch. I'm unable to update via web server due to the above error (it won't start)

 

[user 101620]

Updates have been pushed to get the current sha on launch to help me debug.
I've also added an update command to launch.sh: launch.sh update

 

[Doublej0305]

All is working! Thanks for the help!

 

[markgm]

I'm attempting a new install, can someone confirm that I'm on the right path? I am using the new Raspberry Pi 2. I'm running into the same issue as I did earlier with the configuration not properly saving when I exit.

Connected HDMI, keyboard, mouse, Ethernet, and a temperature sensor (GPIO 4, +5, ground, with appropriate resistor). Power on, install Raspbain (NOOBS).

In raspi-config, change locale to en_US.UTF8, enable device tree, enable I2C.

After Raspbian is installed, type:

sudo modprobe w1-gpio sudo modprobe w1-therm

then type:

sudo nano /boot/config.txt

Add this line:

dtoverlay=w1-gpio,gpiopin=4

then type:

sudo nano /etc/modules

and add these lines to the bottom of the file /etc/modules:

w1-gpio
w1-therm

then type:

sudo reboot

Run:

git clone https://github.com/DougEdey/SB_Elsinore_Server

then type:

cd SB_Elsinore_Server

then run:

sudo ./launch.sh

Do I need to run the last command as su? The instructions don't say to, but I see examples of it in the thread.

Do I need to install OWFS? If so, are there instructions somewhere? Do I need to install Java, and finally, how about lshw?

Here's what I get when I initially sudo ./launch.sh:

~/SB_Elsinore_Server $ sudo ./launch.sh
Starting Elsinore as root
May 19, 2015 12:50:46 AM com.sb.elsinore.LaunchControl main
INFO: Running Brewery Controller.
May 19, 2015 12:50:46 AM com.sb.elsinore.LaunchControl getShaFor
INFO: Checking for sha for HEAD
May 19, 2015 12:50:46 AM com.sb.elsinore.LaunchControl getShaFor
INFO: 29aada6a571b2050e3a7c71d1d5d99c49ba529f7
May 19, 2015 12:50:46 AM com.sb.elsinore.LaunchControl main
INFO: Currently at: 29aada6a571b2050e3a7c71d1d5d99c49ba529f7
May 19, 2015 12:50:46 AM com.sb.elsinore.LaunchControl readConfig
INFO: CFG IS NULL
May 19, 2015 12:50:46 AM com.sb.elsinore.LaunchControl readConfig
INFO: DOC IS NULL
May 19, 2015 12:50:46 AM com.sb.elsinore.LaunchControl listOneWireSys
INFO: Checking for 28-000005f3b7b4
May 19, 2015 12:50:46 AM com.sb.elsinore.Temp <init>
INFO: Adding28-000005f3b7b4
May 19, 2015 12:50:46 AM com.sb.elsinore.Temp <init>
INFO: 28-000005f3b7b4 added.
May 19, 2015 12:50:46 AM com.sb.elsinore.Temp setScale
WARNING: Cut off is: -999
May 19, 2015 12:50:46 AM com.sb.elsinore.Temp setScale
WARNING: Cut off is now: -999
1) 28-000005f3b7b4May 19, 2015 12:50:47 AM com.sb.elsinore.LaunchControl displaySensors
INFO:  70.925
May 19, 2015 12:50:47 AM com.sb.elsinore.LaunchControl createConfig
WARNING: Please go to the Web UI to the web UI http://VashPi:8080/controller
May 19, 2015 12:50:47 AM com.sb.elsinore.LaunchControl <init>
INFO: CONFIG READ COMPLETED***********
May 19, 2015 12:50:47 AM com.sb.elsinore.BrewServer <init>
INFO: Launching on port 8080
May 19, 2015 12:50:47 AM com.sb.elsinore.BrewServer <init>
INFO: Enabled logging at level:WARNING

After I access my site, add 2 timers (90 Minute at time 90, and 60 Minute at time 60, and 2 elements with Element 1 at GPIO 17, and Element 2 at GPIO 24), and shut down, here is what I see in the console:

~/SB_Elsinore_Server $ sudo ./launch.sh
Starting Elsinore as root
May 19, 2015 12:50:46 AM com.sb.elsinore.LaunchControl main
INFO: Running Brewery Controller.
May 19, 2015 12:50:46 AM com.sb.elsinore.LaunchControl getShaFor
INFO: Checking for sha for HEAD
May 19, 2015 12:50:46 AM com.sb.elsinore.LaunchControl getShaFor
INFO: 29aada6a571b2050e3a7c71d1d5d99c49ba529f7
May 19, 2015 12:50:46 AM com.sb.elsinore.LaunchControl main
INFO: Currently at: 29aada6a571b2050e3a7c71d1d5d99c49ba529f7
May 19, 2015 12:50:46 AM com.sb.elsinore.LaunchControl readConfig
INFO: CFG IS NULL
May 19, 2015 12:50:46 AM com.sb.elsinore.LaunchControl readConfig
INFO: DOC IS NULL
May 19, 2015 12:50:46 AM com.sb.elsinore.LaunchControl listOneWireSys
INFO: Checking for 28-000005f3b7b4
May 19, 2015 12:50:46 AM com.sb.elsinore.Temp <init>
INFO: Adding28-000005f3b7b4
May 19, 2015 12:50:46 AM com.sb.elsinore.Temp <init>
INFO: 28-000005f3b7b4 added.
May 19, 2015 12:50:46 AM com.sb.elsinore.Temp setScale
WARNING: Cut off is: -999
May 19, 2015 12:50:46 AM com.sb.elsinore.Temp setScale
WARNING: Cut off is now: -999
1) 28-000005f3b7b4May 19, 2015 12:50:47 AM com.sb.elsinore.LaunchControl displaySensors
INFO:  70.925
May 19, 2015 12:50:47 AM com.sb.elsinore.LaunchControl createConfig
WARNING: Please go to the Web UI to the web UI http://VashPi:8080/controller
May 19, 2015 12:50:47 AM com.sb.elsinore.LaunchControl <init>
INFO: CONFIG READ COMPLETED***********
May 19, 2015 12:50:47 AM com.sb.elsinore.BrewServer <init>
INFO: Launching on port 8080
May 19, 2015 12:50:47 AM com.sb.elsinore.BrewServer <init>
INFO: Enabled logging at level:WARNING
~/SB_Elsinore_Server $ sudo ./launch.sh
Starting Elsinore as root
May 19, 2015 12:50:46 AM com.sb.elsinore.LaunchControl main
INFO: Running Brewery Controller.
May 19, 2015 12:50:46 AM com.sb.elsinore.LaunchControl getShaFor
INFO: Checking for sha for HEAD
May 19, 2015 12:50:46 AM com.sb.elsinore.LaunchControl getShaFor
INFO: 29aada6a571b2050e3a7c71d1d5d99c49ba529f7
May 19, 2015 12:50:46 AM com.sb.elsinore.LaunchControl main
INFO: Currently at: 29aada6a571b2050e3a7c71d1d5d99c49ba529f7
May 19, 2015 12:50:46 AM com.sb.elsinore.LaunchControl readConfig
INFO: CFG IS NULL
May 19, 2015 12:50:46 AM com.sb.elsinore.LaunchControl readConfig
INFO: DOC IS NULL
May 19, 2015 12:50:46 AM com.sb.elsinore.LaunchControl listOneWireSys
INFO: Checking for 28-000005f3b7b4
May 19, 2015 12:50:46 AM com.sb.elsinore.Temp <init>
INFO: Adding28-000005f3b7b4
May 19, 2015 12:50:46 AM com.sb.elsinore.Temp <init>
INFO: 28-000005f3b7b4 added.
May 19, 2015 12:50:46 AM com.sb.elsinore.Temp setScale
WARNING: Cut off is: -999
May 19, 2015 12:50:46 AM com.sb.elsinore.Temp setScale
WARNING: Cut off is now: -999
1) 28-000005f3b7b4May 19, 2015 12:50:47 AM com.sb.elsinore.LaunchControl displaySensors
INFO:  70.925
May 19, 2015 12:50:47 AM com.sb.elsinore.LaunchControl createConfig
WARNING: Please go to the Web UI to the web UI http://VashPi:8080/controller
May 19, 2015 12:50:47 AM com.sb.elsinore.LaunchControl <init>
INFO: CONFIG READ COMPLETED***********
May 19, 2015 12:50:47 AM com.sb.elsinore.BrewServer <init>
INFO: Launching on port 8080
May 19, 2015 12:50:47 AM com.sb.elsinore.BrewServer <init>
INFO: Enabled logging at level:WARNING
Warning: NLS unused message: CHANGE_SCALE in: com.sb.elsinore.nls.messages
Warning: NLS unused message: DUTY in: com.sb.elsinore.nls.messages
Warning: NLS unused message: CALIBRATION in: com.sb.elsinore.nls.messages
Warning: NLS unused message: HIDE in: com.sb.elsinore.nls.messages
Warning: NLS unused message: SHOW in: com.sb.elsinore.nls.messages
Warning: NLS unused message: INVERT_COOL in: com.sb.elsinore.nls.messages
Warning: NLS unused message: INVERT_HEAT in: com.sb.elsinore.nls.messages
Warning: NLS unused message: INVERT_GPIO in: com.sb.elsinore.nls.messages
Warning: NLS unused message: UPDATE_GRAVITY in: com.sb.elsinore.nls.messages
Warning: NLS unused message: DESCRIPTION in: com.sb.elsinore.nls.messages
Warning: NLS unused message: TARGET in: com.sb.elsinore.nls.messages
Warning: NLS unused message: SHUTDOWN in: com.sb.elsinore.nls.messages
Warning: NLS unused message: SHUTDOWN_SYSTEM in: com.sb.elsinore.nls.messages
Couldn't execute lshw to identify board
Cannot run program "lshw": error=2, No such file or directory
No definitions file found, assuming direct mapping
Couldn't execute lshw to identify board
Cannot run program "lshw": error=2, No such file or directory
No definitions file found, assuming direct mapping

After I run sudo ./launch.sh again, here is what I see in the console:

~/SB_Elsinore_Server $ sudo ./launch.sh
Starting Elsinore as root
May 19, 2015 12:54:17 AM com.sb.elsinore.LaunchControl main
INFO: Running Brewery Controller.
May 19, 2015 12:54:17 AM com.sb.elsinore.LaunchControl getShaFor
INFO: Checking for sha for HEAD
May 19, 2015 12:54:17 AM com.sb.elsinore.LaunchControl getShaFor
INFO: 29aada6a571b2050e3a7c71d1d5d99c49ba529f7
May 19, 2015 12:54:17 AM com.sb.elsinore.LaunchControl main
INFO: Currently at: 29aada6a571b2050e3a7c71d1d5d99c49ba529f7
May 19, 2015 12:54:17 AM com.sb.elsinore.LaunchControl readConfig
INFO: CFG IS NULL
Couldn't execute lshw to identify board
Cannot run program "lshw": error=2, No such file or directory
No definitions file found, assuming direct mapping
May 19, 2015 12:54:18 AM com.sb.elsinore.LaunchControl parseXMLSections
INFO: Checking section timers
May 19, 2015 12:54:18 AM com.sb.elsinore.LaunchControl parseXMLSections
INFO: Checking section switches
May 19, 2015 12:54:18 AM com.sb.elsinore.LaunchControl parseXMLSections
INFO: Checking section phSensors
May 19, 2015 12:54:18 AM com.sb.elsinore.LaunchControl parseXMLSections
INFO: Checking section general
May 19, 2015 12:54:18 AM com.sb.elsinore.LaunchControl parseXMLSections
INFO: Checking section device
May 19, 2015 12:54:18 AM com.sb.elsinore.LaunchControl parseDevice
INFO: Parsing XML Device: 28-000005f3b7b4
May 19, 2015 12:54:18 AM com.sb.elsinore.LaunchControl parseDevice
INFO: min: null
May 19, 2015 12:54:18 AM com.sb.elsinore.LaunchControl parseDevice
INFO: Not enough volume data points, 0 found
May 19, 2015 12:54:18 AM com.sb.elsinore.Temp <init>
INFO: Adding28-000005f3b7b4
May 19, 2015 12:54:18 AM com.sb.elsinore.Temp <init>
INFO: 28-000005f3b7b4 added.
May 19, 2015 12:54:18 AM com.sb.elsinore.LaunchControl startDevice
INFO: Adding 28-000005f3b7b4 Heat GPIO is (null)
May 19, 2015 12:54:18 AM com.sb.elsinore.LaunchControl startDevice
INFO: Adding 28-000005f3b7b4 Cool GPIO is (null)
May 19, 2015 12:54:18 AM com.sb.elsinore.Temp setScale
WARNING: Cut off is: -999
May 19, 2015 12:54:18 AM com.sb.elsinore.Temp setScale
WARNING: Cut off is now: -999
May 19, 2015 12:54:18 AM com.sb.elsinore.LaunchControl <init>
INFO: CONFIG READ COMPLETED***********
May 19, 2015 12:54:18 AM com.sb.elsinore.BrewServer <init>
INFO: Launching on port 8080
May 19, 2015 12:54:18 AM com.sb.elsinore.BrewServer <init>
INFO: Enabled logging at level:WARNING
Warning: NLS unused message: CHANGE_SCALE in: com.sb.elsinore.nls.messages
Warning: NLS unused message: DUTY in: com.sb.elsinore.nls.messages
Warning: NLS unused message: CALIBRATION in: com.sb.elsinore.nls.messages
Warning: NLS unused message: HIDE in: com.sb.elsinore.nls.messages
Warning: NLS unused message: SHOW in: com.sb.elsinore.nls.messages
Warning: NLS unused message: INVERT_COOL in: com.sb.elsinore.nls.messages
Warning: NLS unused message: INVERT_HEAT in: com.sb.elsinore.nls.messages
Warning: NLS unused message: INVERT_GPIO in: com.sb.elsinore.nls.messages
Warning: NLS unused message: UPDATE_GRAVITY in: com.sb.elsinore.nls.messages
Warning: NLS unused message: DESCRIPTION in: com.sb.elsinore.nls.messages
Warning: NLS unused message: TARGET in: com.sb.elsinore.nls.messages
Warning: NLS unused message: SHUTDOWN in: com.sb.elsinore.nls.messages
Warning: NLS unused message: SHUTDOWN_SYSTEM in: com.sb.elsinore.nls.messages

And here is my elsinore.cfg file after shutting down:

<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8" standalone="no"?>
<elsinore>
  <timers>
    <timer id="60 Minute" position="-1" target="60"/>
  </timers>
  <switches>
    <switch gpio="GPIO24" name="Element%202" position="-1">
      <invert>false</invert>
    </switch>
  </switches>
 <phSensors/>
  <general>
    <pagelock>false</pagelock>
    <scale>F</scale>
    <recorder>false</recorder>
    <recorderDiff>0.15</recorderDiff>
    <recorderTime>5000</recorderTime>
  </general>
  <device id="28-000005f3b7b4">
    <probe>28-000005f3b7b4</probe>
    <position>-1</position>
    <cutoff>-999</cutoff>
    <calibration>0F</calibration>
    <hidden>false</hidden>
  </device>
</elsinore>

The first picture is the initial site, the second picture is the site after I make my configurations, and the third picture is after I shutdown Elsinore and rerun sudo ./launch.sh.

Thanks everyone, sorry for the long post, just really want to get this working. I'm trying to piece together what's in this thread and in the various files on github.

 

[FuzzeWuzze]

Just posted a detailed walkthrough of my personal process here:

http://www.reddit.com/r/StrangeBrew/comments/36a3bp/control_panel_and_brewery_build/

I saw this on reddit and its nice, but again...circuit diagram

 

[Mikeliverpooluk]

Markgm Doug,
I am also running rpi2
And I use windows with chrome on my PC

I have had the same minor bug as you in that Elsinore will only save one timer and one switch when you properly shut it down.

I have checked my outputs on console and log and they are the same as yours so I won't post them again

There is a very simple fix that I am currently using. You can simply edit the Elsinore.cfg directly from the console. Just copy and paste the timer and switch code and change the name a gpio for each as required. Restart and the switches and timers will appear. Add as many as you want

However if you use the shutdown button from the gui or you use Ctrl c to shut down Elsinore from the console screen you end up with only one switch and one timer again. if you pull the power and restart they are still there. It seems that when Elsinore is shutting down properly using the guitar or ctrl c that it is only saving one switch and timer or it is deleting it from the Elsinore.cfg file - same thing I suppose. This only started Doug after a relatively recent update you made when you mentioned you had been having problems in the way Elsinore saves things on shutdown it might just be a pi thing as no one else has mentioned it

As I leave mine running 24/7 it's not a problem for me once I'm set up



I'm currently 3 days into my first Elsinore brew and it's going very well indeed so I'm a very happy man !!!!

Thanks for all your work again Doug

Cheers

Mike

 

[Mikeliverpooluk]

Ps mark your doing everything correctly as far as I can see

It's what I did anyway

Cheers

Mike

 

[BlkWater_brewer]

Need one piece of information if someone could help. My system was doing what I needed until I ran an update for the second type of one wire sensor. Since then I have been unable to launch SBE to pull down the fix. Want to git checkout the latest commit so I can get it running again. What is the commit as I am very new to the checkout process.

Said I wouldn't wouldn't bug you again Doug - just want to get back to a functional system without starting from scratch.

 

[jangevaa]

I saw this on reddit and its nice, but again...circuit diagram

I'm a bit conflicted about making a circuit diagram. On one hand it would take a good deal of time to make a diagram more detailed than the one Doug has already provided... and it also concerns me that somebody was attempting to build their own control panel but couldn't figure out how the components worked together without a circuit diagram. Electricity kills, and if you can't with 100% confidence put something like this together you either need to read more or go a different route.

On the other hand I'm all about increasing accessibility to this sort of stuff, and I assume if you're able to read a circuit diagram you probably know enough to assemble a control panel safely. I probably will put one together... soon...

 

[jangevaa]

I have had the same minor bug as you in that Elsinore will only save one timer and one switch when you properly shut it down.

I thought I noticed this problem awhile back as well, but I leave Elsinore running for weeks (i.e. infrequent shutdowns) so it wasn't something I looked into further

 

[jangevaa]

Need one piece of information if someone could help. My system was doing what I needed until I ran an update for the second type of one wire sensor. Since then I have been unable to launch SBE to pull down the fix. Want to git checkout the latest commit so I can get it running again. What is the commit as I am very new to the checkout process.

Said I wouldn't wouldn't bug you again Doug - just want to get back to a functional system without starting from scratch.

With 'git checkout' you're literally checking out a specific revision of the code. If you had done this in the past [I believe] you need to type 'git checkout master' to get out of this checkout mode, before 'git pull' will work again. 'git pull' will bring you up to date with the most recent commits. All of these commands would be used while in the Elsinore directory.

 

[user 101620]

I thought I noticed this problem awhile back as well, but I leave Elsinore running for weeks (i.e. infrequent shutdowns) so it wasn't something I looked into further

The lack of saving multiple timers/switches is now fixed.

 

[markgm]

Awesome, thanks! Looks like it's working as intended now. You deserve a beer!

The only thing I notice odd is when I move something it doesn't stay moved. In the attached picture when I move the 60 minute timer above the 90 minute timer, after I shutdown (or refresh), the 90 minute timer is on top again. Same thing with my switches.

 

[TechyDork]

Is there currently any documentation for troubleshooting? I am just thinking along the lines of how to view the get status pages, and various log files and where the config file lives and how to edit it. I looked on the reddit page and the github and may have missed it if it is there.

I currently have a temp probe that was connected for testing before I set up my kettles, that i am no longer using and i cannot delete it. i looked all over on my RasPi and could not find the config file to remove it, and dragging the probe on the GUI did not give me the delete option. I am not running the latest version and will update when i have an internet connect for my Pi.

Thanks again for this killer software!! Getting closer to being able to brew with this new set up and can't' wait!

 

[jangevaa]

Is there currently any documentation for troubleshooting? I am just thinking along the lines of how to view the get status pages, and various log files and where the config file lives and how to edit it. I looked on the reddit page and the github and may have missed it if it is there.

No specific troubleshooting guide. Happy to add a troubleshooting section to the reddit wiki thing. Will need some authors to flesh it out though

I currently have a temp probe that was connected for testing before I set up my kettles, that i am no longer using and i cannot delete it. i looked all over on my RasPi and could not find the config file to remove it, and dragging the probe on the GUI did not give me the delete option. I am not running the latest version and will update when i have an internet connect for my Pi.

the default configuration file is elsinore.cfg and is in the main elsinore directory. If nothing else is working for you, you can remove that file (i.e. `rm elsinore.cfg` in terminal) and re-setup your brewery... and that probe shouldn't come up again unless it's still connected!

 

[TechyDork]

No specific troubleshooting guide. Happy to add a troubleshooting section to the reddit wiki thing. Will need some authors to flesh it out though



the default configuration file is elsinore.cfg and is in the main elsinore directory. If nothing else is working for you, you can remove that file (i.e. `rm elsinore.cfg` in terminal) and re-setup your brewery... and that probe shouldn't come up again unless it's still connected!

I think it would be good to have a list of places to look for errors, or where to get the information that is often needed to troubleshoot.

I will remove the config file and start over. It is a good time to pull the latest updated and test it on my set up.

 

[user 101620]

I currently have a temp probe that was connected for testing before I set up my kettles, that i am no longer using and i cannot delete it. i looked all over on my RasPi and could not find the config file to remove it, and dragging the probe on the GUI did not give me the delete option. I am not running the latest version and will update when i have an internet connect for my Pi.

This was added in a relatively recent release as a request by someone. So you're probably just out of date.

I do not recommend editing the configuration file, XML is not designed to be hand edited

 

[TechyDork]

This was added in a relatively recent release as a request by someone. So you're probably just out of date.

I do not recommend editing the configuration file, XML is not designed to be hand edited

I will update to the latest release soon.

I will also delete the config file and start over with the update.

thank you Doug.

 

[user 101620]

Fixed some issues with the re-ordering of pumps & timers. I'll write up a doc page on how to get debug information later tonight.

Also, a huge thanks to everyone who's bought me beer so far, the money is going to go towards new Conicals & electric valves.

 

[TechyDork]

Just sent a pint or two your way. Enjoy sir and thank you!

 

[markgm]

Fixed some issues with the re-ordering of pumps & timers. I'll write up a doc page on how to get debug information later tonight.

Also, a huge thanks to everyone who's bought me beer so far, the money is going to go towards new Conicals & electric valves.

Perfect! I think those were all the issues I was having. I'm still waiting for components to arrive, but after a brew day with it I'll be sure to post my build and feedback.

Enjoy the, um, keg .

 

[512brew-com]

Fixed some issues with the re-ordering of pumps & timers. I'll write up a doc page on how to get debug information later tonight.

Also, a huge thanks to everyone who's bought me beer so far, the money is going to go towards new Conicals & electric valves.

I also sent a round to Doug. Let's all chip in! It's really easy and its a great thing to do to (a) show our appreciation for work that benefits us and (b) encourage the creation and support of software, the open-source way.

Here's what you do: Just find the footer for one of his recent posts (look up in the thread from this post just a few blocks) and click on the "if you want to support me send me something here" link... that will give you the email address to which to send some funds. Then just go to Paypal and click "send some money to friends or family", then paste that email address into the box. That's pretty much it, Paypal will guide you through the rest.

If you've ever bought or sold anything on ebay, your paypal account is probably already set up to send funds. If not, its easy to set up so you can send money; just read the instructions. Fortunately, anyone capable of setting up linux on a RPi or BBB and git-pulling elsinore is capable of setting up paypal; you're way ahead of the curve.

After all his trouble, let's just buy the man a round. It doesn't take much, if all of us do it.

 

[user 101620]

Perfect! I think those were all the issues I was having. I'm still waiting for components to arrive, but after a brew day with it I'll be sure to post my build and feedback.

Enjoy the, um, keg .

I'm in Ontario, it's expensive up here

 

[FuzzeWuzze]

I'm a bit conflicted about making a circuit diagram. On one hand it would take a good deal of time to make a diagram more detailed than the one Doug has already provided... and it also concerns me that somebody was attempting to build their own control panel but couldn't figure out how the components worked together without a circuit diagram. Electricity kills, and if you can't with 100% confidence put something like this together you either need to read more or go a different route.

On the other hand I'm all about increasing accessibility to this sort of stuff, and I assume if you're able to read a circuit diagram you probably know enough to assemble a control panel safely. I probably will put one together... soon...

It just seems there are so many different ways to do it, various parts. In the end what i want to do is make a post similar to my BrewPi one for Elsinore, but im in between houses and new baby so have a lack of time for the next month or two.

Basically "Buy these things, hook them up here, program this, and brew". And cheaply as possible without buying known shoddy parts. Granted the user base for people going electric is a bit smaller than those that are building Ferm chambers, but i think a lot of people weren't quite as afraid of BrewPi after reading my post and gave it a shot after seeing how cheaply it could be done. These are only moderately more complex than a BrewPi setup, but obviously care always needs to be taken when dealing with high voltage stuff.

I think the same thing could be done for Electric brewing if people could more easily know how to build their own Elsinore box instead of dropping 1.5-3k for a EBS BCS box or Kal clone. Seems obvious thats why Elsinore exists in the first place to lower that cost of entry, i just dont think the actual "How to build one" has been given enough thought or documentation unless i am missing something.

My goal is to basically explain how to build a DIY Hosehead, for those that want to save some money.

 

[user 101620]

It just seems there are so many different ways to do it, various parts. In the end what i want to do is make a post similar to my BrewPi one for Elsinore, but im in between houses and new baby so have a lack of time for the next month or two.

Basically "Buy these things, hook them up here, program this, and brew". And cheaply as possible without buying known shoddy parts. Granted the user base for people going electric is a bit smaller than those that are building Ferm chambers, but i think a lot of people weren't quite as afraid of BrewPi after reading my post and gave it a shot.

The issue with these "buy these parts" lists, is they only work for the country or even the area that you're in. It's almost impossible for me to buy a NEMA box here in Canada for instance. And places like the electric brewery annoyed me because I think maybe 5% of their links actually worked for me. Even though Kal lives in my city.

 

[FuzzeWuzze]

The issue with these "buy these parts" lists, is they only work for the country or even the area that you're in. It's almost impossible for me to buy a NEMA box here in Canada for instance. And places like the electric brewery annoyed me because I think maybe 5% of their links actually worked for me. Even though Kal lives in my city.

True enough, my BrewPi post was aimed more at US people i suppose as its almost all Amazon based as they usually have the best deals, especially if you have Amazon prime.

I still think its a good thing though, and plan to do it myself if no one else does in the next 2 months

 

[CGish]

True enough, my BrewPi post was aimed more at US people i suppose as its almost all Amazon based as they usually have the best deals, especially if you have Amazon prime.

I still think its a good thing though, and plan to do it myself if no one else does in the next 2 months

I appreciated your brewpi thread and am looking at the Elsinore for my small batches. Doug's site is excellent (as is the brewpi site), but having and all-in-one, updated "this is how you do it" here on HBT? That would be fantastic.

 

[lostboy4480]

I would have to agree, I followed your BrewPi guide and have a working fermentation chamber now and would love to see something for StangeBrew.

I have my vessel all done and am just about to start looking into the brains behind it and would love to build a StangeBrew Setup.