New Mangrove Jack's strains?

[steveabt12]

I have used M27, M29 and M31. All of them give very good and reliable results. The only liquid yeast I have tried is Wyeast Ardennes and it is fabulous, better than dried yeast (though I used it in a dubbel). i believe it works well in a tripel also.

 

[brewbama]

Rebel Brewer has the new MJ strains now. They ship fast, stock high quality products, and have great Cust Service.

 

[NTexBrewer]

Looks like Texas Brewing also has the yeast. I shoo there locally. Nice store

 

[Radboud]

Thanks, Radboud! I'm really looking forward to trying this yeast.

Bottled this tripel today, went all the way down to 1.002 (AA 97%)!!! That's gonna be one potent puppy at 9.7% ABV. Lots of esters and alcohol hotness which I hope will mellow out a little.

 

[highgravitybacon]

If they had that many Belgian dry strains 2 years ago when I started, I mightve stayed with dry yeast.

Is there some reason you can't go back? It's not Jefferson Airplane's White Rabbit.

 

[crusader1612]

Is there some reason you can't go back? It's not Jefferson Airplane's White Rabbit.

I suspect thats because Belgian Liquid Strains - are infinitely better, than the majority of these Dry yeasts.

I've tasted beers, with almost all of the MJ strains, and I can safely say, the only belgian strain worth a dime is the Abbey Strain.
M27 - M29 too estery boozy and waaay too attenuative.

the Tripel is the only one I haven't had much experience with - tried a beer from a fellow brewer last week, which was ok, but not great.

 

[oefox]

I have brewed several beers from one M54 hybrid lager sachet and think this is a really good strain.

It really accentuates hops for some reason; I did a vienna lager, munich lager, and a pale ale smash and in all three the hop aroma was very noticeable. It leaves a minute sulphur smell that I have yet to detect but at the brewery where we do our meet ups the brewer detected it but mentioned that they have used it so know what to look for.

I'm contemplating using it for an IPA.

 

[Shenanigans]

I bought a few packs of the new brands and want to try them with a Brown porter similar to Jamil's recipe which uses WLP013 London ale (Wyeast 1028). Which MJ yeast is most similar to WLP013/WY1028?

M42 New World Strong Ale (was M07 British Ale)
or
M36 Liberty Bell Ale (was M79 Burton Union).

Recipe here:

10 lb Maris Otter
1 lb Brown Malt
1 lb Crystal 45
10 oz Pale Chocolate
1.25 oz Fuggle (4.8%) – 60 min
0.5 oz Fuggle (4.8%) – 10 min

I guess the M36 but is it any good?

Thanks!

 

[crusader1612]

I bought a few packs of the new brands and want to try them with a Brown porter similar to Jamil's recipe which uses WLP013 London ale (Wyeast 1028). Which MJ yeast is most similar to WLP013/WY1028?

M42 New World Strong Ale (was M07 British Ale)
or
M36 Liberty Bell Ale (was M79 Burton Union).

Recipe here:

10 lb Maris Otter
1 lb Brown Malt
1 lb Crystal 45
10 oz Pale Chocolate
1.25 oz Fuggle (4.8%) – 60 min
0.5 oz Fuggle (4.8%) – 10 min

I guess the M36 but is it any good?

Thanks!

M36 is the old newcastle dark right?
I've heard good things about t he esters, but like many oft he MJ strains, they all need high pitch rates.
I've never used 36, but the old burton union is solid - probably a good place to start.

 

[Homercidal]

Beersmith has an add-on for the Mangrove Jack yeasts, but the don't have the one that I am using tonight!

 

[modifier]

https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0...V3_MJ_CS_Yeast_Bk_WEB.pdf?5432139801183846214

Attenuation and other info are in that pdf

 

[oefox]

Well I just finished a starter using the M36 strain @20~21c, and wow, it seriously has some seriously pleasant esters going on. Definitely what I was looking for when wife said she wants a beer with some nice fruity aromas.

 

[Shenanigans]

I just brewed up a Goose Island IPA clone and am going to pitch my pack of M42 New World Strong Ale.
Decided I will use a mix of Windsor and Nottingham for my brown porter instead of the M36.

 

[Bosh]

Not seeing any mention of the wit strain (m21). Anyone tried that? Am thinking of using it next.

 

[eulipion2]

Not seeing any mention of the wit strain (m21). Anyone tried that? Am thinking of using it next.

That's my next brew! Unfortunately it'll be my first time with it, so I don't have any feedback to give you.

 

[crusader1612]

Not seeing any mention of the wit strain (m21). Anyone tried that? Am thinking of using it next.

Quite good. Attenuation appear Lowe then something like 400.

 

[Shenanigans]

Quite good. Attenuation appear Lowe then something like 400.

It has a good wit flavour profile?
I would be interested in trying it for a Belgian IPA, something like Raging Bitch. I love that hop combination of Nugget, Columbus and Amarillo.

 

[crusader1612]

It has a good wit flavour profile?

I would be interested in trying it for a Belgian IPA, something like Raging Bitch. I love that hop combination of Nugget, Columbus and Amarillo.

Definitely. It's quite wit like. And has a touch of clove to it. It's a fast fermenter as well

 

[Bosh]

Sounds great, not a bit fan of lower attenuation and was planning on throwing some other yeast in after the wit had done what it could to drive down FG a bit. Good I won't have to do that.

Will make a split batch. Half dryhopped with citrusy hops, half not.

 

[KaanX]

Not seeing any mention of the wit strain (m21). Anyone tried that? Am thinking of using it next.

Brewed a wit(ish) wheat beer (used wheat malt instead of flaked wheat), turned out pretty good. I only used a small amount of coriander at 5min.
Fermented at 23C, Smooth mouthfeel with the right amount of yeasty wit character, delicious.

 

[GurraG]

Does anyone have any experience with the M47 abbey strain?

 

[crusader1612]

Does anyone have any experience with the M47 abbey strain?

As I said above, (not including the Wit Strain). Its probably the only one worth a dime.

 

[GurraG]

As I said above, (not including the Wit Strain). Its probably the only one worth a dime.

Ah, yes, I missed your comment. I'm planning on trying the abbey strain in a dubbel, so it's reassuring that you like it. From what I have read about it, it kind of reminds me of the Chimay strain (wlp500/ wy1214), do you have any thoughts on that?

 

[crusader1612]

Ah, yes, I missed your comment. I'm planning on trying the abbey strain in a dubbel, so it's reassuring that you like it. From what I have read about it, it kind of reminds me of the Chimay strain (wlp500/ wy1214), do you have any thoughts on that?

I'd say Closer to WLP530.
I put it in a dubbel. Turned out well.

 

[beernutz]

As I said above, (not including the Wit Strain). Its probably the only one worth a dime.

You've tried them all?

 

[crusader1612]

You've tried them all?

I've tried the majority of them.
Living in New Zealand I have ready access to the brand.

Here's my thoughts:
M44- give it a higher pitch rate, otherwise it takes off slowly, and can throw some booze etc. into the beer. if you do this, the beer will finish out nice and fast aswell. cleaner than US-05, drops clearer as well.

M21- Wit yeast, a really nice character, lower attenuation than I expected. but clean, with a traditional type wit character. (maybe a little extra banana though)

M47- Abbey. Closest to WLP530 IMO. Nice phenolics, keep control of temps I ran at 20-22 Deg C came out nicely. a strong beer ,but its balanced out nicely.

M36- Used ages ago, want to give it another go. last time it didn't finish out, (i believe it was my issue not the yeast) a friend gave me a rigger of his APA using this, and it was nice, although the hops were muted slightly compared to M44.

M29-horrible. It'll ferment your mother if you let it. Attenuates waaaay too far. same goes for french saison (both are terrible IMO)

Empire( I forget the code) - nice enough - used in barleywine, worth experimenting.

Tripel - haven't tried this, but got a taste of someone else's.... its ok, but its overly phenolic, think banana milkshake

newcastle dark. i really like this one, it just doesn't attenuate well enough for me.

california common - haven't tried it

lager yeasts - i havent tried, but the ones ive had of other brews made with these, have come out well. the only comment i'd make is the bohemian doesn't really fit, its more lager than pilsner.

am i missing any?

 

[oefox]

Is MJ Australian or NZ, as I too have ready access to all of there strains and can fill in your M54 cali common blank as I used that strain for 4 lagers and they all turned out really good. Not sure if it was intended but the yeast seemed to really accentuate the hops and two of the lagers ended up with a slight hint of sulphur that didn't detract from the beer at all.

Brewed the M36 strain Sunday, active fermentation within 12 hours, krausen dropped Wednesday. Going to put in some dry hops tonight. The starter I did for it had some crazy good fruity esters going on that I really hope transfer to the final product as my partner wants a S&F Tasman Lager clone, except the starter was done at 21 and I started the fermentation at 19 with a slow ramp to 23.

 

[Bosh]

Well complaining about a saison strain attenuating too much is kind of missing the point.

That said the French Saison isn't the best saison yeast but I made my best saison (out of 7) using a blend of MG French Saison and Belle Saison with low IBUs, all 2-row and a bit citra dry hop. Was wonderful.

 

[crusader1612]

Is MJ Australian or NZ, as I too have ready access to all of there strains and can fill in your M54 cali common blank as I used that strain for 4 lagers and they all turned out really good. Not sure if it was intended but the yeast seemed to really accentuate the hops and two of the lagers ended up with a slight hint of sulphur that didn't detract from the beer at all.

Brewed the M36 strain Sunday, active fermentation within 12 hours, krausen dropped Wednesday. Going to put in some dry hops tonight. The starter I did for it had some crazy good fruity esters going on that I really hope transfer to the final product as my partner wants a S&F Tasman Lager clone, except the starter was done at 21 and I started the fermentation at 19 with a slow ramp to 23.

Kiwi brand mate.
iMake is the company owner. Based in Dorkland

cheers for filling i nthe blanks.

 

[lasultana]

Does anybody have more experiences with the M36?