New England IPA hater

[murphyslaw]

Poured for can, cloudy with hop debris. Not exactly enticing.
Hops were too fruity, nearly no bitter.?

These sort of complaints always strike me as someone trying to fit the beer into a preconcieved box rather than allowing yourself to enjoy it for what it is. Do you see a hefe and think "that's not exactly enticing" then close your eyes, take a sip and complain, "ugh, I hate pillowy mouthfeels and beer that isn't bitter!" Because if not, then it seems to me that its not the appearance, mouthfeel, or flavors that you don't like, but rather that they aren't what you expect an IPA to be--clear, crisp, bitter.

everyone's got their own preferences of course, and perhaps you dislike all cloudy, non-bitter beer. There wouldn't be anything wrong with that. But that would make you someone who only likes a few types of beer, not a hater of NEIPAs.

Try one again, but instead of thinking of it as a newfangled IPA, trying thinking of it as an interesting new style that you've never tried before.

 

[jurgenph]

anyone know of any examples of this style that i can purchase on the west coast? can't seem to find 'em. but maybe i'm not looking in the right spots.


J.

 

[Sourz4life]

anyone know of any examples of this style that i can purchase on the west coast? can't seem to find 'em. but maybe i'm not looking in the right spots.


J.

Moonraker, Monkish, Noble.

 

[jodell]

These sort of complaints always strike me as someone trying to fit the beer into a preconcieved box rather than allowing yourself to enjoy it for what it is. Do you see a hefe and think "that's not exactly enticing" then close your eyes, take a sip and complain, "ugh, I hate pillowy mouthfeels and beer that isn't bitter!" Because if not, then it seems to me that its not the appearance, mouthfeel, or flavors that you don't like, but rather that they aren't what you expect an IPA to be--clear, crisp, bitter.

everyone's got their own preferences of course, and perhaps you dislike all cloudy, non-bitter beer. There wouldn't be anything wrong with that. But that would make you someone who only likes a few types of beer, not a hater of NEIPAs.

Try one again, but instead of thinking of it as a newfangled IPA, trying thinking of it as an interesting new style that you've never tried before.

There's a big difference in hefe-haze and the pulpy look that is a neipa...

 

[murphyslaw]

There's a big difference in hefe-haze and the pulpy look that is a neipa...

I've not seen or made a pulply NEIPA.


Light plays a big factor in the way these things look, but here's a NEIPA and a hefe.

 

[murphyslaw]

I've not seen or made a pulply NEIPA.


Light plays a big factor in the way these things look, but here's a NEIPA and a hefe.

I think the one in the Hill Farmstead glass is Edward, or it might have been a Hill Farmstead/Tired Hands collaboration that I tried that night.

Treehouse's Haze looks a touch murky, but that's just the light.

The one in the treehouse glass without the bottle is my attempt at Braufessor's recipe.

They're not murky like the bottom of a keg. There are no floaties. Its haze.

 

[OswaldvW]

Cider looks pretty disgusting. It's all turbid and brown. Who would want to drink that?

 

[Homercidal]

I was curious for a long time and finally got to taste the style at Hopcat in Grand Rapids. They had an M-43 from some brewery in Michigan. After reading all about the style, and reading the agruments between the lovers and the haters, I fully expected to hate them, but being curious, I gave it a shot.

It was really good. I'm not going to mush all over it and say it was some kind of out-of-body experience or anything, but I was surprised to find that while the descriptions of the style I'd heard were all there, I really liked it. I'm not a juice fan. I expected a "thick" feeling, not bitter "IPA" (IMO it should not be termed an IPA, but whatever...) ugly mess to turn me off.

Yes, it was "juicy" in that it resembled the color and mostly the texture of pulp-free juice. It was not chunky, pulpy, "thick", or unpalatable. The thickness was kind of a soft, creamy texture, rather than "thick". (And I generally like my beers well carbed with some carb bite.)

The flavor was hoppy without being too bitter. Really, I was surprised, because I expected a Pale Ale or IPA bitter to go along with it, and it was just mild bitterness. I kind of liked that because it really helped the flavor of the hops shine through. And the flavor is tropical/citrus HOP flavor, not orange juice.

I fully expected to dislike the style, and ended up appreciating it. The negative aspects were not nearly as awful as I thought they would be, and the flavor and texture were very appealing in their own way. And this was just a Michigan beer I experienced. I'm curious to try more of them as I can find them.

 

[motosapiens]

anyone know of any examples of this style that i can purchase on the west coast? can't seem to find 'em. but maybe i'm not looking in the right spots.


J.

i just brewed my own after trying one while traveling. It's odd that some commercial examples are so murky. I get some haze initially when kegged, but the last one turned crystal clear after 2 weeks in the bottle, and still tastes chock full of fruity hoppy goodness.

For people that don't like the style.... whatever. Drink what you like. some dudes are into fat chicks.

 

[GrogNerd]

most of those are borderline, but can be described as "(very) hazy"

I'm talking about THIS. it's not hazy, it's MURKY. as in OPAQUE. SWAMPY. milk & orange juice being passed off as beer

set one of these down in front of me and I'll ask you why you're serving me a yeast starter

 

[friarsmith]

NEIPA's are the 'skinny jeans' of the beer world. Not for me. To each their own, and drink what you like...

 

[crusader1612]

NEIPA's are the 'skinny jeans' of the beer world. Not for me. To each their own, and drink what you like...

*hipsters*

 

[allanmorgan]

there is a brewery in Astoria NY called Singlecut, and they are cranking out some of the most delicious NEIPA's on the market. Dare I say, to me they rate up there with the handful of Trilliums I've had an opportunity to try.

I agree that Singlecut is putting out some awesome stuff. I can't compare them to Trillium, because I haven't had one. If they are as good as Singlecut, then they have to be awesome IMO.

 

[Sbe2]

TommyDee being that youre located in NJ I thought I would let you know that there is a brewery in Astoria NY called Singlecut, and they are cranking out some of the most delicious NEIPA's on the market. Dare I say, to me they rate up there with the handful of Trilliums I've had an opportunity to try. In fact here in Rochester they just released another batch of their "softly spoken magic spells", which is pure wizardry. Hopefully they are more available to you. Cheers!

Where can I find said beer in the ROC?

Don't forget about Mass Riot by Prison City in good ole Auburn, NY

 

[aimlessbum]

anyone know of any examples of this style that i can purchase on the west coast? can't seem to find 'em. but maybe i'm not looking in the right spots.


J.

Somewhere closer to your neck of the woods is Alvarado St. in Monterey/ Salinas. Fantastic stuff!

 

[dryboroughbrewing]

This is one of mine, I whirlflocced it, cold crashed, and biofined it. It's a delightful beer, but personally I wish it would drop clear.

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[Raoul_Duke_PhD]

NEIPA's are the 'skinny jeans' of the beer world. Not for me. To each their own, and drink what you like...

I think all IPAs are now. It's the "cool" thing to drink. I'll stick to my German lagers, English porters and stouts.

 

[slym2none]

NEIPA's are the 'skinny jeans' of the beer world. Not for me. To each their own, and drink what you like...

I think all IPAs are now. It's the "cool" thing to drink. I'll stick to my German lagers, English porters and stouts.

Well, I happen to like IPAs. I don't drink them because it's "cool" and if was "uncool" to drink them, I'd still drink them, because as I said, that's what I like. It's not all I drink, but I certainly don't drink them because it's "cool".

Thanks, friarsmith! Boo, Raoul.

 

[Raoul_Duke_PhD]

Well, I happen to like IPAs. I don't drink them because it's "cool" and if was "uncool" to drink them, I'd still drink them, because as I said, that's what I like. It's not all I drink, but I certainly don't drink them because it's "cool".

Thanks, friarsmith! Boo, Raoul.

Drink what you like. Wear skinny jeans or leather, assless chaps if you want, too.

 

[murphyslaw]

You got me. I actually hate the taste of these beers but I drink them because someone once said they were "cool" and I want to be a cool kid. After reexamining my life, I yelled at the kids next door to get off my lawn and went back to drinking my english mild and grumbling about how beer should taste like beer.

 

[rhys333]

I don't like NEIPAs either. It's just pointless excess from my perspective and makes for a very one dimensional beer. Wasteful too! Sure I'll drink it if someone hands me one, but I'd rather have a well crafted anything else than hop juice.

 

[Turkeyshot]

Don't count me a fan either. They look unappealing, so I don't think I have ever had one. Looks like someone poured a glass of orange juice & milk

That is exactly what they look like. And I am not a big fan of their taste either.

 

[motosapiens]

I don't like NEIPAs either. It's just pointless excess from my perspective and makes for a very one dimensional beer. Wasteful too! Sure I'll drink it if someone hands me one, but I'd rather have a well crafted anything else than hop juice.

Lots of chicks aren't really into hops. It's normal.

 

[plazola86]

Taters gonna tate

 

[rhys333]

That is exactly what they look like. And I am not a big fan of their taste either.

Looks like mop water!

 

[Homercidal]

Many people think stouts look like motor oil. Who cares?

 

[plazola86]

I like turtles!

Seriously though its pointless to argue. The people that don't like this style already have a per conceived hatred towards it just because of how it looks and the following they have, or they just don't like IPAs in general but love to hate on this particular style.

 

[rhys333]

I like turtles!

Seriously though its pointless to argue. The people that don't like this style already have a per conceived hatred towards it just because of how it looks and the following they have, or they just don't like IPAs in general but love to hate on this particular style.

I like me an good IPA. I don't like mop water though.

 

[rhys333]

Many people think stouts look like motor oil. Who cares?

Stouts are fantastic! This will not be tolerated and you should be banned for stout hating!

 

[Stillraining]

Huge NEIPA fan. The haziness is just a byproduct of the........ style.. .

Sure you are....We would not expect anything different from a Patriots Fan..