American Wheat Beer Mosaic Honey Wheat

[JrB82]

A few more questions

Anyone done a ten gallon batch? Would you just double the ingredients? Any need for rice hulls?

 

[TBC]

Brewed this over a month ago and had our annual homebrew party last weekend and out of 16 different homebrews this was the party favorite. Thanks for the recipe.

 

[Rivenin]

A few more questions

Anyone done a ten gallon batch? Would you just double the ingredients? Any need for rice hulls?

I've done a 10 gallon batch once for a homebrew shop that wanted it on tap. I just doubled up the ingredients myself. going from 5 > 10 shouldn't make any eff% issues that i can think of unless you have something wrong with your system, so you should be golden!

i actually have everything tucked to the side for a 10 gallon batch of this to brew this weekend

no rice hulls over here for it, it's good cheap insurance though!

 

[Rivenin]

Brewed this over a month ago and had our annual homebrew party last weekend and out of 16 different homebrews this was the party favorite. Thanks for the recipe.

that is AWESOME! i'm glad to hear this was well received!

Enjoy! Cheers!

 

[Calaeb]

Can't wait to brew this! Just waiting on my cool brewing bag to show up from amazon.
edit: also how do you think wy1332 would be in this? I have a starter that I'm building right now for a brew that got cancelled. Brewersfriend has it finishing at 1.018, wouldn't that be pretty sweet?

 

[Rivenin]

Can't wait to brew this! Just waiting on my cool brewing bag to show up from amazon.
edit: also how do you think wy1332 would be in this? I have a starter that I'm building right now for a brew that got cancelled. Brewersfriend has it finishing at 1.018, wouldn't that be pretty sweet?

that would be fairly sweet for sure. I did put it into beersmith and it showed a gravity of 1.013 which would be fine. I'd just mash low and hope for the best! i've never used 1332 though, so i couldn't tell you much on it... but since it's good for IPAs, it should be good for this

and good luck with it! keep us posted

 

[Rivenin]

And I brewed 10 gallons of this yesterday

FB_IMG_1471198760642 by Noah Scott, on Flickr

 

[Calaeb]

that would be fairly sweet for sure. I did put it into beersmith and it showed a gravity of 1.013 which would be fine. I'd just mash low and hope for the best! i've never used 1332 though, so i couldn't tell you much on it... but since it's good for IPAs, it should be good for this

and good luck with it! keep us posted

Ended up getting delayed so, I'll just go ahead and use s-05 as it stated in the op. Now to consider dry hopping with something or not lol

 

[JrB82]

Planning on brewing 10gals of this on Saturday. I ferment in two 5gal carboys and usually do something different in each (different yeasts, dryhops, etc). I'm thinking I'll try two different yeasts for this. Open to suggestions. Maybe 05 in one and more of a Hefeweizen yeast in the other?

 

[Rivenin]

Ended up getting delayed so, I'll just go ahead and use s-05 as it stated in the op. Now to consider dry hopping with something or not lol

to dry hop or not to dry hop... that is the question... haha. either way works wonderfully! i'd say taste it afterwards and see if it needs more hops.

 

[Rivenin]

Planning on brewing 10gals of this on Saturday. I ferment in two 5gal carboys and usually do something different in each (different yeasts, dryhops, etc). I'm thinking I'll try two different yeasts for this. Open to suggestions. Maybe 05 in one and more of a Hefeweizen yeast in the other?

Hrm... you know what could be interesting is a belgain yeast of sorts. Hefe yeast in my opinion might not work out too well. OR a british yeast would be awesome!

keep us posted though, i love recipe variants!

 

[Shenanigans]

Sounds like a good idea with the English yeast.
Wlp007 would be a good bet or if you are a dry yeast user S-04 or the M07 from Mangrove jacks (now called M42 New World Strong Ale)

 

[JrB82]

Ok maybe I'll do 05 in one and 04 in another. @rivenin I'm still new to recipe building, and brewing in general. Why do you think hefe yeast wouldn't be good?

 

[JrB82]

What about Wyeast 1010?

 

[Shenanigans]

What about Wyeast 1010?

1010 would also work.
I have also read here that people have had good success with a Kolsch yeast for this beer style too.
https://www.homebrewtalk.com/showthread.php?t=238940

I think a German Hefe strain would give off too much of it's own flavor (banana and clove) which might disrupt the balance of the beer. The stars of this beer are the hops and the honey malt and the German hefe might overpower that a bit.

For the same reason I would only use high attenuating and high flocculating English strains that leave a bit more maltiness than the US-05 and don't give off too much esters.

Maybe you would need to add a few more hops to the dry hop to compensate for more falling out of solution with the yeast.

 

[JrB82]

just picked up the ingredients. Going with 05 and 1010 for the yeast. I'll let you know how it turns out

 

[Rivenin]

Awesome! sounds great!

 

[JrB82]

Boil's on now!

 

[Rivenin]

Hopefully it went well!
i don't check this at home usually as i have 2 kids, just at work during downtime lol.

how'd brewday go??

 

[JrB82]

Hopefully it went well!
i don't check this at home usually as i have 2 kids, just at work during downtime lol.

how'd brewday go??

Pretty good considering it was my first solo brew day. A little hectic at times, and I melted the hose on my immersion chiller. It's fermenting away. The 1010 took off fast, as in hit the blow off tube overnight the first night. The 05 was a slow start. Didn't show any signs til this morning.

 

[geogn4t]

Wheat can have some fun with your mash numbers. Usually on heavier wheat / rye / oat beer i usually stir the mash 2-3 times during the mash which helps. sometimes the stickiness of those malts can cause issues. Rice hulls are always great option.

And keep us posted on how it turned out! Glad it was brewed and welcome to the forums!

Just finished up with our big house party..Last Thursday through Sunday night. Everything I made was a hit but this one was probably the most liked. Went through 20 gallons of homebrew on top of ~5 cases of cans/bottles.

Thanks so much for the recipe.. I will definitely be making it again!

 

[Calaeb]

Can anyone share their water profile? Plan to finally brew this weekend and not sure what profile to use. Will be using 100% ro water as my base

 

[Calaeb]

Well brewed this Sunday, let me say that was the last time i try and get my to do list done while brewing. Mash seemed to go OK, but when I checked preboil gravity, i was about 6 points off, thought eh no big deal ill add some dme to get me closer. Added about 1/2 pound and still was a little short, thought I rather be over than short so I went ahead and added the the rest. I didn't check preboil again and just went on, boil went OK, but ended up with a few ladybugs in the wort which i tried to fish out but couldn't find! Started to chill and after 30 minutes was only down to 88* went ahead and moved it to the FV and let it sit in a ice bath. Checked gravity today before pitching yeast and it was at 1.063 estimated to finish at 1.017. I'm worried that it may be to sweet finishing that high and with there being a whole pound of honey malt in there(which i have never used). Am i right to worry? Should i add some table sugar in a day or two to try and dry the beer out, or let it be and hope for the best?

 

[JrB82]

Checked SG last night. The 1010 was at 1.012 and the 05 was at 1.010

 

[optimal_pizza]

Can anyone share their water profile? Plan to finally brew this weekend and not sure what profile to use. Will be using 100% ro water as my base

From the OP:
Calcium : 113
Chloride : 38
Magnesium : 0
Bicarbonate : 86
Sodium : 32
Sulfate : 221
PH : 5.4

 

[Rivenin]

Well brewed this Sunday, let me say that was the last time i try and get my to do list done while brewing. Mash seemed to go OK, but when I checked preboil gravity, i was about 6 points off, thought eh no big deal ill add some dme to get me closer. Added about 1/2 pound and still was a little short, thought I rather be over than short so I went ahead and added the the rest. I didn't check preboil again and just went on, boil went OK, but ended up with a few ladybugs in the wort which i tried to fish out but couldn't find! Started to chill and after 30 minutes was only down to 88* went ahead and moved it to the FV and let it sit in a ice bath. Checked gravity today before pitching yeast and it was at 1.063 estimated to finish at 1.017. I'm worried that it may be to sweet finishing that high and with there being a whole pound of honey malt in there(which i have never used). Am i right to worry? Should i add some table sugar in a day or two to try and dry the beer out, or let it be and hope for the best?

i wouldn't worry about it honestly. i've never had this finish that high. i've brewed it 4 times now. you should be fine don't panic yet my friend!

1.063 is a a bit higher than normal, might be a bit sweeter than normal...?
but it's not going to hurt anything i wouldn't think, the IBUs are so low anyways... i'd let that ride.

If you do add sugar to dry it out, it'll only add more alcohol sweetness as well and make the gravity higher.
If that does happen again though, you can always add in more water to make the gravity lower itself before you pitch yeast as well. that wouldn't hurt anything at all

but like i said, i'd totally let it ride

 

[Rivenin]

Checked SG last night. The 1010 was at 1.012 and the 05 was at 1.010

how are they tasting? any noticeable difference?

 

[Rivenin]

From the OP:
Calcium : 113
Chloride : 38
Magnesium : 0
Bicarbonate : 86
Sodium : 32
Sulfate : 221
PH : 5.4

thanks for the assist!

 

[JrB82]

how are they tasting? any noticeable difference?

Tastes good. Mosaic is coming through, but not too bitter. Not a huge difference from the two

 

[Calaeb]

From the OP:
Calcium : 113
Chloride : 38
Magnesium : 0
Bicarbonate : 86
Sodium : 32
Sulfate : 221
PH : 5.4

Guess I totally missed that! Thanks
I just did 1 tsp gypsum, 1 tsp cal chloride