Men: Getting snipped. Yay or nay?

[kombat]

The valium will mellow you out a bit - depending on the dosage it's likely not going to make you high at all.

I checked - it's a 10mg dose.

I think this is the part I'm still the most uncertain about. I've read countless accounts of other people going through the procedure, and no one seems to mention the pre-op Valium (granted it doesn't seem to be that commonly prescribed either, but still). Will 10mg of Valium (Diazepam) mellow me out perceptibly, or will I even notice? I'm about 175 lbs.

That, and I've heard that first "test drive" after the procedure can be excruciatingly painful if you try it too soon post-op. So bad that some guys say they were "gun shy" for several rounds afterwards, to the degree where the anticipation of the excruciating pain prevented them from enjoying themselves, although it did eventually go away. Any credence to that?

 

[LBussy]

I checked - it's a 10mg dose.

I think this is the part I'm still the most uncertain about. I've read countless accounts of other people going through the procedure, and no one seems to mention the pre-op Valium (granted it doesn't seem to be that commonly prescribed either, but still). Will 10mg of Valium (Diazepam) mellow me out perceptibly, or will I even notice? I'm about 175 lbs.

That, and I've heard that first "test drive" after the procedure can be excruciatingly painful if you try it too soon post-op. So bad that some guys say they were "gun shy" for several rounds afterwards, to the degree where the anticipation of the excruciating pain prevented them from enjoying themselves, although it did eventually go away. Any credence to that?

10mg is on the higher side:

http://www.drugs.com/dosage/valium.html

As far as the test drive, I was lucky enough to have my wife administer that first test orally. I still waited three days. There was some tenderness but it all worked right and really, that makes everything better.

 

[iijakii]

I didnt do the valium. Was a bit nervous. Might reconsider if I were to do it again.

 

[broadbill]

I checked - it's a 10mg dose.

I think this is the part I'm still the most uncertain about. I've read countless accounts of other people going through the procedure, and no one seems to mention the pre-op Valium (granted it doesn't seem to be that commonly prescribed either, but still). Will 10mg of Valium (Diazepam) mellow me out perceptibly, or will I even notice? I'm about 175 lbs.

That, and I've heard that first "test drive" after the procedure can be excruciatingly painful if you try it too soon post-op. So bad that some guys say they were "gun shy" for several rounds afterwards, to the degree where the anticipation of the excruciating pain prevented them from enjoying themselves, although it did eventually go away. Any credence to that?

Valium: I didn't noticed I was mellowed, but looking back I definitely was. Instead of focusing on/worrying about the procedure I was more interested in the ceiling and shooting the breeze with the Dr.

I never heard of the first ejaculation being painful. Nothing is really disturbed by the procedures except for a tiny tube that provides a tiny component of the ejaculate. Pretty much all normal for my first post-op go around although I gave it a solid week before going about it. I'd probably go it alone vs. with someone else, lest that person accidentally bang into something that was still sore.

 

[Psylocide]

This thread always pops up at the perfect time... just went in for our 20 wk ultrasound and baby is healthy, looking into scheduling my appointment.

Which means I'm going to stall like crazy until I can work up the courage to call and make the appointment.

 

[normonster]

Don't do it.

 

[Twins_Dad]

Don't do it.

If there is a part of you that is unsure.......then don't do it. If you look at your family and are content........then by all means get it done.

Every time I look at my boys I breath a sigh of relief that I will not (with 97-99% confidence) be adding any more craziness to our household, and I will never have to change another diaper until I am in them myself.

 

[mrdauber64]

Do you research on the technique used. My doctor spent an hour and a half doing my procedure. He made sure to separate the blood vessels and did not use stitches on the outside to avoid discomfort. To seal the very small opening, all he did was put a cold washcloth down there which contracted the skin and closed the wound. Pretty neat! He also gave me a numbing cream to apply 45 min. before the appointment to numb the area. Overall a very positive, pain free procedure. The healing process was fast and relativity pain free too.

He was talking about other doctor's ways of doing the procedure and one of them actually cut a hold big enough on each side to remove the testicles during the procedure and put them back afterwards. They also didn't separate the blood vessels which left a lot of bruising and bleeding.

So just do your research and have your doctor explain the process that they use! The less invasive procedure that they use the less pain and faster healing you will have.

 

[Clarke]

or a quick hand party can't solve.

Ok, that was funny.^^

I haven't had it done nor am I thinking about it but I believe it is better than the woman having a major surgery, so if I had to choose it would be me.

 

[Clarke]

Every time I look at my boys I breath a sigh of relief that I will not (with 97-99% confidence) be adding any more craziness to our household, and I will never have to change another diaper until I am in them myself.

not planning on grandkids? or just not changing theirs?

 

[TimKennard]

After having twins (now 4 years old) and a baby boy last year, we are done. Almost 40 and we're good with 3. Glad to have gotten snipped. It sucked and at the time I thought I made a huge mistake. Even a month or so afterwards I just didn't feel right (mostly in my head). Its now been 9+ months and no regrets, no perceivable side affects, no worries.

They gave me a vicodin pre-op of all things. Those make me jumpy haha, but that's just me.

Post-op test drives were not an issue or I don't remember them anyway. However, I did not feel like going for a drive for a week at least.

Good luck and just take it easy, no lifting. Honestly my biggest battle with the whole thing was keeping my twin daughters from jumping into my lap which for some reason was the greatest thing ever to them at that time. Guessing because they were told not to ha.

 

[bbohanon]

I did it after our third kid (I wanted to stop at one)..I took the pill they gave me and drank about 4 stouts and popped in a stick of gum before getting my wife to drive me to the doctor to have the surgery.

Was a very low risk/pain procedure and would recommend it to anyone when they are done with kids. Also got me out of work for a week which was nice.
:fro:

 

[hunter_le five]

I took the pill they gave me and drank about 4 stouts and popped in a stick of gum before getting my wife to drive me to the doctor:

Brilliant.

 

[Yesfan]

I've had mine about two years ago. I have two kids, so it was a no brainer for me. I don't think I could recommend doing it, if you don't have kids and your contemplating having kids in the future or not.



For me, no regrets what so ever. Matter of fact, "doing the deed" seems better too (not that it was ever bad or anything). If anything, the uhm.... "finishes" seem to be more intense.


My apologizes for the TMI, but me getting snipped has been a much more positive experience than I was expecting. I feel like I'm in my late teens again.

 

[Twins_Dad]

not planning on grandkids? or just not changing theirs?

I would love grand kids. Maybe in 20 years I will feel different about changing poop, but for now i plan to send them over to sit on grandma's lap when there is something lurking in kid's diaper. Selfish? Yup, but I put up with enough s**t on a daily basis (wastewater treatment plants).

 

[CajunChuck]

I'm happily child-free (not sure if I've mentioned that or not elsewhere in the forum) and fully intend to stay that way, as does my wife. I just turned 40, so even if I did change my mind, it's a little late in life, practically speaking, to even consider starting a journey down the parenthood road. A (fellow child-free) buddy of mine got snipped last year and loudly sings the praises of getting it done. If it were painless, guaranteed, and no-risk, I'd already have booked an appointment.

That said, I'm still considering booking the appointment, but I wanted to hear from others who've had it done (or considered it and decided not to). I'm looking for whether or not it was worth it, what kind of complications or long-term side-effects you've suffered, whether or not it was effective, diminished your sex drive, whether or not it was a long recovery, a painful operation, that sort of stuff. I'm interested in your experiences to help me work up the courage to pick up my phone and book the appointment.

Best friggen $800 bucks I've ever spent!

 

[Randar]

Had mine done last Christmas. 2 and out for us. No more kids and no more pill/IUD/hormones for the wife. Painless, no side effects. The "No scalpel procedure" is fo-shizzle... or was that "sizzle?" I dunno. I was on something that made me loopy at the time.

 

[jspain3]

I thought 2 were enough but SWMBO wanted four kids. We decided to compromise on three, but ended up with twins (funny how SWMBOs always get their way). With four kids under 4.5, it was a really easy decision for me. Of course, I developed a scrotal hematoma (don't do an image search) which lasted for 6-7 months. It was quite painful, but even after all that, I still think it was well worth it.

 

[TimKennard]

I thought 2 were enough but SWMBO wanted four kids. We decided to compromise on three, but ended up with twins (funny how SWMBOs always get their way). With four kids under 4.5, it was a really easy decision for me. Of course, I developed a scrotal hematoma (don't do an image search) which lasted for 6-7 months. It was quite painful, but even after all that, I still think it was well worth it.

Funny, "we" wanted 2 kids, had twins first, she meant pregnant twice, now have 3 haha. Bummer about your complication.

 

[Bulls Beers]

Nay!!!

 

[blizz81]

Anyone know

a) how much it ends up being with your typical high-deductible health care plan (I'm thru United)? I guess that's probably too vague a question, but figured I'd shoot (thread pun intended). I assume much like Lasik was, even though it's an elective surgery, I can still pay with funds from my HSA.

b) are places pretty strict on allowing you to go through with the surgery based on age? I'm 34. I 100.00% want no kids.

 

[TX_Brewing]

Don't know about high deductible plans, but with mine it was free. I think they assume there are savings on the backside with no more kids. Yes you can pay out of an HSA for it, no different than paying for birth control pills.

 

[actech]

My ins. Health alliance covered it all. Cheaper to get you snipped than pay for delivery. Got it done 15yrs ago. Don't remember getting valium before but after the Dr. told my wife at the time, go to pharmacy and fill this vicoden script,pick up a 12 pack of beer and put him on the couch. The beer is for swelling, better than an ice pack. Then looked at me and said you can keep from getting in trouble ,right? I'm sure not ama approved but it worked. I was very happy and pain free!! Doesn't seem to be any side effects I'm 50 and divorced and it works better than at 18. Not so quick on the draw lol

 

[LBussy]

I did it because A) we were done, and B) it allowed my wife to come off hormone birth control.

 

[kombat]

Do you research on the technique used. [...]
So just do your research and have your doctor explain the process that they use! The less invasive procedure that they use the less pain and faster healing you will have.

He uses the No-Needle-No-Scalpel technique that is supposed to be the least-invasive technique possible.

 

[kombat]

Best friggen $800 bucks I've ever spent!

Mine is free. Gotta love socialized healthcare! All I had to pay was $95 for the "prep kit" (the razor to shave with, the jock support, the post-op test kit), and maybe another $8 for the prescriptions (Valium, Naproxen).

 

[broadbill]

Do you research on the technique used. My doctor spent an hour and a half doing my procedure. He made sure to separate the blood vessels and did not use stitches on the outside to avoid discomfort. To seal the very small opening, all he did was put a cold washcloth down there which contracted the skin and closed the wound. Pretty neat! He also gave me a numbing cream to apply 45 min. before the appointment to numb the area. Overall a very positive, pain free procedure. The healing process was fast and relativity pain free too.

He was talking about other doctor's ways of doing the procedure and one of them actually cut a hold big enough on each side to remove the testicles during the procedure and put them back afterwards. They also didn't separate the blood vessels which left a lot of bruising and bleeding.

So just do your research and have your doctor explain the process that they use! The less invasive procedure that they use the less pain and faster healing you will have.

Yeah...I'm not sure where you got your info from. The bit about pulling the entire testicle out is almost certainly wrong. Your nutsack would look like frankenstein post-op with all the stitches. They do pull out and isolate a section of the vas deferens...but that is like a 1mm diameter tube. Also, many incisions don't need stitches as all, that they only tend to be 1-2mm long.

Also-1-1/2 hours!?!....did they wash your hair and give you a massage too? I was out in less in 15-20 minutes. I was in and out so quickly my wife thought they had canceled my surgery.

 

[broadbill]

Anyone know

a) how much it ends up being with your typical high-deductible health care plan (I'm thru United)? I guess that's probably too vague a question, but figured I'd shoot (thread pun intended). I assume much like Lasik was, even though it's an elective surgery, I can still pay with funds from my HSA.

b) are places pretty strict on allowing you to go through with the surgery based on age? I'm 34. I 100.00% want no kids.

a) pretty sure the coverage will be listed right in your health insurance coverage docs. There are like 100K procedures done a year.

b) Part of the pre-op is the doctor asks you why you want it done. If you were 23, no kids and not in an LTR they would probably recommend you wait, but if you 34, in an LTR and saying kids aren't for you they will probably be ok with it.

The deep, dark question you would want to ask yourself is if you ever see yourself in a new relationship and wanting to have children with someone else. The vasectomy reversals are possible, but it much more invasive and aren't 100% effective.

 

[Calaeb]

Anyone know

a) how much it ends up being with your typical high-deductible health care plan (I'm thru United)? I guess that's probably too vague a question, but figured I'd shoot (thread pun intended). I assume much like Lasik was, even though it's an elective surgery, I can still pay with funds from my HSA.

b) are places pretty strict on allowing you to go through with the surgery based on age? I'm 34. I 100.00% want no kids.

I too am on united health care. Mine was only $160, but i had already met my family deductible so they covered most of it. Granted mine went horrible right from the start, im still glad that i got it done. We have two kids and are both 25, so it seemed the be the safest option. She was a high risk pregnancy both times and they weren't willing to do her while she was getting the c-section so it was my turn lol.
When I went in for my pre-op all they did was take my weight etc, doc came in asked if I had kids, If I was sure we were done and then shook my hand, and told me to get undressed ha.

 

[mrdauber64]

Yeah...I'm not sure where you got your info from. The bit about pulling the entire testicle out is almost certainly wrong. Your nutsack would look like frankenstein post-op with all the stitches. They do pull out and isolate a section of the vas deferens...but that is like a 1mm diameter tube. Also, many incisions don't need stitches as all, that they only tend to be 1-2mm long.

Also-1-1/2 hours!?!....did they wash your hair and give you a massage too? I was out in less in 15-20 minutes. I was in and out so quickly my wife thought they had canceled my surgery.

I actually had my surgery on October 27th this year. I was in the room for 1.5 hours. The reason it was so long was because of how meticulous he was being separating the vessels from the vas deferens. Also after injecting the pain meds he waiting for the numbing to take effect(10 minutes maybe). The healing process with my procedure was not nearly was bad as some people say their healing is. I didn't have any bleeding, no swelling, just a little scab where he snipped he skin(very small), and no lingering aches that I've heard people describe.

As far as pulling the testicle out, that information came directly from my doctor. He said there was a urologist that no longer works at the hospital performed that type of vasectomy. He did it more to inspect the testicle for cancer cells than for the actual vasectomy procedure, but that was he was process for every vasectomy. That is an extreme case of "the wrong way to do it", but that is why it is good to ask questions. Also, stitches(or a stitch) are pretty common according to my doctor, that is why I brought up that the process my MD used didn't use stitches.