Market Research - What do you need, but can't build?

[grathan]

I think the biggest issue here is gonna be krausen. Some nano-scale super slick surface that lets the sticky stuff slide right off. Or perhaps a device that always stays entirely submerged.

Saw this video today on a product called "never wet" by rustoleum. It is pretty awesome video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=DZrjXSsfxMQ

http://www.homedepot.com/p/Rust-Ole...CiP-cTxfA?&cm_mmc=SEM|G|STO|DSK|D24|Rustoleum

 

[+HopSpunge+]

That stuff is awsome. I am going to spray my fishing waders with it. Then spray my phone. Then spray my truck. Then spray my dog. Then spray my shoes. Then spray my roof. I Can't wait to start spraying everything.

Edit: nevermind the sun uv destroys it in seconds. Oh well would have been a good invention

 

[adamc]

Trying to get this post back on track.

A double walled keg that, after boiling, I can hook up a hose and cool the wort by running water through the inside of the double wall. It would need to be stainless.

The bottom needs to be thick and not double walled.

It of course would need drains and sight glass.

 

[Jaybird]

hop plug/pellet making kit for the homebrewer

I have been trying to build this for a while now. The problem I am having is finding a way to get the pressure needed without a hydraulic cylinder. The leverage systems I have designed and built are just lacking in the pressure needed without a 6 foot solid steel handle. I can get the hops to pack very well but in no way are they in the pellet form I was looking for. Plugs yes! Pellets no....

Cheers
Jay

 

[grathan]

I have been trying to build this for a while now. The problem I am having is finding a way to get the pressure needed without a hydraulic cylinder. The leverage systems I have designed and built are just lacking in the pressure needed without a 6 foot solid steel handle. I can get the hops to pack very well but in no way are they in the pellet form I was looking for. Plugs yes! Pellets no....

Cheers
Jay

Almost everyone has a vehicle. What if it had something you drove a car tire up on?

 

[grathan]

Trying to get this post back on track.

A double walled keg that, after boiling, I can hook up a hose and cool the wort by running water through the inside of the double wall. It would need to be stainless.

The bottom needs to be thick and not double walled.

It of course would need drains and sight glass.

This could double as a steam-jacket for heating though these already might exist.

 

[grathan]

That stuff is awsome. I am going to spray my fishing waders with it. Then spray my phone. Then spray my truck. Then spray my dog. Then spray my shoes. Then spray my roof. I Can't wait to start spraying everything.

Edit: nevermind the sun uv destroys it in seconds. Oh well would have been a good invention

but since uv is bad for fermentor it would make a good spray for floating hydrometer no?

 

[uatuba]

A precut and stamped, nuts-and-bolts brewing table or tier system (both) based on standard kettle sizes (including keggles) would be nice. I can't weld. Well, I can weld, but it looks like a bunch of damn pieces of metal chewing gum stuck everywhere.

I would rather pay to have a kit of sorts, with available options such as casters, shelves, and other attachments. It's easily scalable, and the materials on your end remain identical. I haven't seen anything similar to this.

 

[Ravenshead]

How about a dimple-puller kit a la https://www.homebrewtalk.com/f51/soldering-stainless-steel-155782/

One kit for each common sized hole would make silver soldered fittings within reach of most people's skill/equipment level.

 

[Jwood]

To make enough money for a career change I am going to guess that you will need to make something that has parts that are either welded, CNC machined, laser cut, etc.

I think the only thing limiting most homebrewers is an abundance of tools (and big tools, which cost big money) and money itself. As many have mentioned, if we can do it ourselves, we will.

Good luck though, I will be really happy if I see "Vendor" under your name someday!

With that said, I'd like a plug-in, chilled conical fermenter and bright tank that isn't ridiculously expensive. Yes, I'm willing to set it up IKEA style.

 

[outside92129]

There definitely is a crop of folks here that are well kitted out for tools, but I also see some new brewers who need to be given some basic tool info. Nothing that 10 trips to HD or lowes can't solve, but you might be able to help them.

What about a basic brewing tool set? With an add on for kegging (tap wrench, crimper...).

A certain fellow on my wife's side- his tool box consists of 1 flat head, a phillips, $1 hammer, a rusty pair of pliers, and a handful of mismatched bolts/nuts/screws he's found. Time to revoke his man-card. But if he were a brewer he would be a potential buyer (he wouldn't shell out for a turnkey setup).

 

[rono73]

Thank you all again for your suggestions, and sorry I was not able to chime in over the weekend. Lots of great ideas to consider, and I'm personally inclined to solving the small problems, like grain mill motors and heat sticks.

It's funny, one of my biggest pet peeves is stirring the grain while adding the water in the mash tun. When I work alone, I still use the auto-siphon hose (I know it's not temp friendly) in one hand and my paddle in the other. I though for sure I would hear that people wanted a motorized slow-speed stirring device for this purpose. That's why market research is so important - you can't sell what people don't want!

 

[MetallHed]

Jeez! Just making this stuff up as we go? I'd like a $5 80 gallon conical fermenter as long as we're just making stuff up.

Making it up?! Haven't you heard? http://1x57.com/b/2012/06/transparent-aluminum-from-star-trek-yeah-weve-had-that-since-1981/

 

[n240sxguy]

Making it up?! Haven't you heard? http://1x57.com/b/2012/06/transparent-aluminum-from-star-trek-yeah-weve-had-that-since-1981/

Well hell

 

[bmurrs]

If you want your fermenter to watch your gravity check this out
http://www.thebeerbug.com/

 

[Pilgarlic]

A more affordable version of this with 1/2" threads:

http://www.brewershardware.com/FILTER1.html

 

[grathan]

If you want your fermenter to watch your gravity check this out
http://www.thebeerbug.com/

Neat, good to see these guys haven't disappeared. Can't wait to see some reviews on this.

 

[grathan]

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stainless double walled vacuum sealed 0.5 gallon serving keg/pitcher with mini co2 hookup
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http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1732077870/the-tapit-cap-the-beer-growlers-best-friend

Just came across this neat contraption. Just needs insulation..

 

[audger]

Doesn't meet my requirement of "a fair price". $429 for a plastic conical makes no sense to me. I can get a stout for $539 and it is stainless steel. This is why I suggested this. If that was $75-$125, I think you would find a lot of people interested in it. What I am talking about is more like the Speidel fermenters in a conical shape; a 15G one of those goes for $65. Take that tank, leave the spigot in place for racking, change the mold so that it is conical at the bottom, add a dump valve, and you have what I am looking for ( as long as it is a lot cheaper than $400! ). Since it is plastic, you could even make an advanced model with an ability to run glycol through it. I would definitely go for something like that if the price was right!

an injection mold that size would cost $50k+ easily, for JUST the mold. that is for each mold, if you want two then its going to cost $100-150k just in setup fee. then you are looking at 5-10 bucks worth of raw materials for each shot. you better plan on selling millions of them or you will never get close to breaking even.

 

[Yavid]

How about designing/manufacturing a plate chiller that can be disassembled for cleaning. I'm sure this would be cost-prohibitive but if I had to pick 1 piece of equipment that doesn't currently exist that would be it.

 

[Brad2287]

How about designing/manufacturing a plate chiller that can be disassembled for cleaning. I'm sure this would be cost-prohibitive but if I had to pick 1 piece of equipment that doesn't currently exist that would be it.

It does exist but it is not cheap at all.

https://brewmagic.com/products/components/plate-pro-sanitary-plate-heat-exchanger

It is also giant but apparently is highly efficient compared to other models commonly seen.

 

[Yavid]

I have yet to see one sized appropriately for home brewing at any price. Could be wrong though.

Edit: Didn't notice your link before replying. That's pretty much what I was thinking. Probably still a bit large though.

 

[erichsmith]

I own a welding and mahine shop and another member of our club is a hell of a machinist. Between myself and him we make stuff for other members of the club usually charging only cost of materials and beer or ingridents. You've got a good idea but it's been said here in other threads. We homebrewers are already a DIY kinda group. If we werent we'd just go to the store and buy beer without the hassle and expense of all the equipment and such. I've never brewed beer to save money and I'd venture to say no veteren home brewer would admit to that either. After 18 years in the hobby I have spent enough to send a kid to college and probably would have spent more had I not had the shop and skills I have. I have thought about putting together some DIY "kits" for various items. Pre-drilled keggles is one idea where someone can just use weldless fittings and still make their own. I also have a concept for a counter pressure bottle filler that I think would be a good kit as well. That way I have only minimal material and labor cost and can pass the savings on to someone that is willing to put something together that is pre-machined and pre-welded in areas that the general home brewer can't do. Well, back to my research on the counter pressure filler.

 

[Beernik]

I would love a book on build projects. A step-by-step DIY hombrew build book. Who needs another mediocre recipe book that is 90% extract recipes?

Sure, the first 3 I bought were cool. The next 3 I received as gifts were nice. The next 10 I received as gifts were damn annoying. Then I issued a moratorium.

 

[erichsmith]

I would love a book on build projects. A step-by-step DIY hombrew build book.

That is a great idea. It could have sections for beginner, intermediate and advanced just like the recipe books :cross:

I'm sure I could put one together but between my family, the shop, brewing beer and theater I don't have time to tackle such a task but would be willing to contribute some of my plans and sketches.