Man I sure do hate the police...

[shecky]

Since we are talking about criminals here, why put cops out there at all. We have the technology to place mile checkpoints with cameras out on the roads to clock everyone every mile. We also have the technology to place identifiers of vehicles so we dont need license plates.

Since it is illegal whats the big deal right?
As a matter of fact, why the hell do we need warrents, ey? If your not doing anything illegal whats the big deal if a cop/judge/tax man shows up at your house and demands entry?

Seriously?

I actually would like to live in a neighborhood where traffic laws were enforced. When I first moved here, I had young kids who walked to and from school everyday and I was really concerned about people flying down the road hurrying to work. If you had kids walking and playing in the neighborhood, you probably would have a different view of the cops patrolling your neighborhood.

I feel this way about my neighborhood. One of the roads I run on every day is somewhat rural and people drive incredibly fast on it. I fear for my life every day running down that road.

 

[Zacharomyces]

Speed cameras are only revenue collectors. Numerous studies have found that if the police really wanted to protect the public by slowing the flow of traffic, the most effective way of doing so it sitting in a clearly visible spot with their lights flashing, you dont even need a person in the car. Giving someone a ticket without them ever knowing it is just crazy. and dont even get started on redlight cameras!

 

[dataz722]

HaHa. I have been meaning to get the plate number of the cop in my hood. His speed through my streets is the one I have the most gripe about.

What about the cops that flip on their light just so they don't have to sit at red lights.

 

[Boerderij_Kabouter]

Since we are talking about criminals here

Actually we aren't talking about criminals. Moving violations are not felonies.

Making the jump between being pissed about a speeding ticket and constituational rights is pretty extreme.

I do not like the cameras either. My statements were directed to knowing you are breaking the law and may have to pay the concequences of your actions.

 

[GilaMinumBeer]

Or drive the shoulder to get past a backup.

Or sit at a gridlock and do nothing.

 

[dataz722]

I feel this way about my neighborhood. One of the roads I run on every day is somewhat rural and people drive incredibly fast on it. I fear for my life every day running down that road.

I grew up at in intersection of two back roads in a pretty rural area and people used to haul ass down those roads. The thing about the intersection was that one of the roads was a little off set and you couldn't just go straight through the intersection. We would have atleast 2 car accidents in our yard or driveway every year. A few of them were really severe, a woman died once and a couple times a medivac chopper actually landed in our yard.

 

[Baja_Brewer]

Only time I got a ticket it was for an out of date insurance card. Showed up half an hour later to the barracks with my up-to-date one that was sitting at the bottom of a pile of mail I hadn't opened since I got back from college and handed him the ticket back.

Granted, I was speeding, probably going the 71 in a 50 that he clocked me doing on my bike, but I wouldn't have done it if I'd known it was a place where I could get a ticket for it. I'm pretty sure in VT if the cop is moving when they trap your speed they can't do sh!t about it except give you a warning and he came around a corner, when I was enjoying the throttle and tagged me. Out of date insurance card was the only thing he could ACTUALLY ticket me for, but he wrote down the 71/50 anyways.

 

[FireNightFly]

Shecky, bro, your complaining about cars on a street that you run on, lol, perhaps you are causing more danger for the cars than they you. I wont lie, when I drive down the road and have to slow down cause some guy in riding his bike 10 mph or running 5 mph in the road I get a little pissed.

I suppose we are to share the roads, but when its 35mph and your running on it.........
its not like all you guys wear bright orange with reflective stuff. We do spend massive amounts of money on places you can run without cars.

just my two cents, hope i didnt offend ya Ed.

 

[Picobrew]

Lived in my house for 5 months, just got my second traffic ticket in that time within 2 miles of it....never gotten a ticket before. These guys suck....hard.

cool story bro

 

[shecky]

Shecky, bro, your complaining about cars on a street that you run on, lol, perhaps you are causing more danger for the cars than they you. I wont lie, when I drive down the road and have to slow down cause some guy in riding his bike 10 mph or running 5 mph in the road I get a little pissed.

I suppose we are to share the roads, but when its 35mph and your running on it.........
its not like all you guys wear bright orange with reflective stuff. We do spend massive amounts of money on places you can run without cars.

just my two since, hope i didnt offend ya Ed.

No offense at all. Sorry you get pissed at we runners, but we have a right to the road, too. It's there for transport, not merely vehicular transport. If I slow you down by a second or two, apologies, but you'll just have to live with it.

 

[IrregularPulse]

Wow, your license plate has a lead foot.


Speeding is speeding, no way around that. Look at it this way, maybe the cameras are helping police do the whole "protect and serve" thing.

Tell me about it. That license plate got me in trouble several times while in college.
I don't consider those cameras trying to protect and serve. They are strictly for bringing in money.
They put one on the main street in our town. Well I happen to have to turn left at that light to go to my parents. No big deal there is a turn arrow....Oh wait, no, when they put the camera up, the green turn arrow misteriously disappeared with it on the busiest street in our town. You will easily sit through 2-3 lights before having a remote chance at turning left. I now turn 3 lights back and go through a crowded shopping center center with the rest of the town's traffic to avoid the light. Apparently heavy traffic through a shopping center is worth it to the city.It is on the ballot to vote to have the cameras removed in november.

 

[shecky]

Tell me about it. That license plate got me in trouble several times while in college.
I don't consider those cameras trying to protect and serve. They are strictly for bringing in money.

The cameras free up the police to do what they're supposed to do. You missed my meaning.

 

[dataz722]

The cameras free up the police to do what they're supposed to do. You missed my meaning.

But they don't. A police car sitting there will make people slow down but a camera just makes money.

 

[Zacharomyces]

It gives me a special feeling in my heart when cities have to refund hundreds of thousands of dollars to people because courts have found that the companies that put them up put shorter than legal yellow light times other dishonest means of making a buck.

 

[DeathBrewer]

Wow, your license plate has a lead foot.


Speeding is speeding, no way around that. Look at it this way, maybe the cameras are helping police do the whole "protect and serve" thing.

The cameras free up the police to do what they're supposed to do. You missed my meaning.

I just don't like the idea of cameras in general. I've been caught by one for running a red light...that's not a problem...I ran the light and it was possible I'd get a ticket.

But when a camera can constantly monitor anything...that's a little too Big Brother for me.

 

[dataz722]

I just don't like the idea of cameras in general. I've been caught by one for running a red light...that's not a problem...I ran the light and it was possible I'd get a ticket.

But when a camera can constantly monitor anything...that's a little too Big Brother for me.

And with speeding at what point do they give a ticket. If they really wanted to they could do it for .1 mph over the limit.

 

[shecky]

I just don't like the idea of cameras in general. I've been caught by one for running a red light...that's not a problem...I ran the light and it was possible I'd get a ticket.

But when a camera can constantly monitor anything...that's a little too Big Brother for me.

I don't like them, either. Way too Orwellian. I got caught by a camera in San Francisco a decade ago. It was creepy.

But there is a way to avoid them: obey the traffic laws.

 

[Yooper]

I suppose we are to share the roads, but when its 35mph and your running on it.........
its not like all you guys wear bright orange with reflective stuff. We do spend massive amounts of money on places you can run without cars.

just my two cents, hope i didnt offend ya Ed.

You know what? We spend massive amounts of money on places you can drive without runners/joggers/children/bicycles.

If you're driving on a public road, and you get pissed at people using the same road legally, but might slow you down by a couple of SECONDS, then I'm glad you don't live in my area.

 

[cubbies]

This thread was a disappointment. I am all for a little cop bashing. Cops for the most part are dicks and very few of them are interested in protecting and serving anything. However, you sped, you got caught, don't blame the cop for doing his job.

 

[shecky]

Somebody explain to me why every derelict I grew up with became a cop? All the guys who seemed destined for prison now carry guns. That scares me.

 

[FireNightFly]

Most states, like ours have a minimum speed limit. I dont see joggers getting tickets ... and yea, hehe, yooper those places we have set aside for cars are called "roads", hehe, i couldnt resist.

I was refering to parks. See you drive on the road to a "park" and jog there. haha

Minimum speed limits. I was just trying to make the comparison that both were illegal in my state, speed and going to slow.

 

[Baja_Brewer]

I was refering to parks. See you drive on the road to a "park" and jog there. haha

I dont have any parks near where I live. I live on back roads, I run on back roads. Horses are ridden on back roads, and neither they nor I obey minimum speed limits. Even though the speed limit is 35 so I doubt there is one.

But saying what you said is like saying people in cities shouldn't jog on sidewalks because they are side"walks"

 

[shecky]

I dont have any parks near where I live. I live on back roads, I run on back roads. Horses are ridden on back roads, and neither they nor I obey minimum speed limits. Even though the speed limit is 35 so I doubt there is one.

But saying what you said is like saying people in cities should jog on sidewalks because they are side"walks"

There are no dedicated running trails near me, either. No sidewalks to speak of, either, unless I venture downtown. Plenty of breakdown lanes, though, where you'd think I'd be safe running. Most drivers view them as a second lane. I've had to dive into bushes more than a few times to avoid being hit and was once hit by an old man pulling out of a cemetery.

 

[kevinrmclean]

I got out of one a few years ago. Cop pulled me over for 72 in a 55. He was right. The ticket said I was doing 72 in a 55 at mile marker 4 with a posted limit of 55. Well I was actually speeding and pulled over at mile marker 7. The posted speed at mile marker 4 is 45. So I fought the ticket. I was not guilty of the written ticket. Cop got reprimanded by the judge. Judge told him sloppy police work and paper work wastes his time.

 

[Baja_Brewer]

There are no dedicated running trails near me, either. No sidewalks to speak of, either, unless I venture downtown. Plenty of breakdown lanes, though, where you'd think I'd be safe running. Most drivers view them as a second lane. I've had to dive into bushes more than a few times to avoid being hit and was once hit by an old man pulling out of a cemetery.

Yeah, I'd editted that, I meant shouldn't... I won't run on sidewalks because the nearest ones to me at home are about 7 miles away.... and I'd have to do about 40 laps on the existing ones "downtown" because our downtown consists of a tiny square of buildings. No breakdown lanes either. I actually really like running on dirt roads though, where I live, because I can hear the cars/trucks coming and there is generally no one else around so they yield the entire side of the road to me....

Wow this thread is wayyyy

 

[DeathBrewer]

I don't like them, either. Way too Orwellian. I got caught by a camera in San Francisco a decade ago. It was creepy.

But there is a way to avoid them: obey the traffic laws.

That's not avoiding the camera, that's avoiding the ticket.

 

[FireNightFly]

See this is why I said I dont exercise!! Its obviously too dangerous.

 

[Picobrew]

Where my homebrewer cops at??

 

[Zacharomyces]

I guess we should all just be glad we haven't been screwed over by the police as hard as this guy...
http://www.courthousenews.com/2009/09/23/Family_Says_911_Tape_Caught_Cops_Planning_Cover-Up_After_Shooting.htm?=protectandserve

 

[GilaMinumBeer]

It's simple really. Don't want to get the mail from your photo op?

Steal your neighbors plates.