Man I sure do hate the police...

[Fingers]

I imagine that the driver's attitude during the stop may have been a contributing factor.

In violation of equitable application of the law. You can't legally bribe an officer but if you can bat your baby blues, meekly submit to his/her will, or any of many other non-tangible rewards that directly benefit the officer then the law changes.

I'm going to court to argue someone else's traffic violation in a few months and I have every confidence that if I can't get it completely dismissed at the very least I'll be able to plead the thing down to next to nothing. It will cost me nothing other than some research and preparation. Another person ticketed for exactly the same offense will pay full price because they get nervous speaking publicly, or don't understand the nuances of the law, or can't present their case well, or some other factor that has nothing at all to do with the offense.

Forgive my bitterness. I got into an argument with a racist today and I'm feeling a little pissy at unequal treatment of citizens. This person hates Muslims simply for who they are. He couldn't pose one reasonable argument to support his bias and yet wouldn't recognize that his attitude is misguided. I'm a little drunk too.

 

[kornkob]

In violation of equitable application of the law. You can't legally bribe an officer but if you can bat your baby blues, meekly submit to his/her will, or any of many other non-tangible rewards that directly benefit the officer then the law changes.

Like it or not when you interact with people, doing so in a manner that is respectful and non confrontational will typically net you a more positive outcome.

 

[Fingers]

Like it or not when you interact with people, doing so in a manner that is respectful and non confrontational will typically net you a more positive outcome.

Yeah, I know. I follow the same philosophy. Only a fool would give a cop a hard time whether they're guilty or not. I wasn't trying to attack you or anyone else. In retrospect I've always advocated the human element in the justice system with regards to sentencing. Discretion on the part of law enforcement has to be part of that.

Please disregard my earlier tone. I was feeling all self righteous and just a little sad at some of the ignorance I tried to dispel earlier with my buddy.

 

[Airborneguy]

There is a human element to everything, and it goes both ways. Sometimes, yours, sometimes, mine

 

[kjung]

A driveway is not considered an intersection so that quote isn't relevant.

I am merely quoting the code that she wrote me up for. With a copy of that statute and pics of where my "violation" occured, I'm pretty sure that I can beat this in court.

Noting that you are in Illinois I looked around for the code but instead found this nify handbook: http://www.sos.state.il.us/publications/rules_of_the_road/rr_chap04.html#special_stops

Actually, I'm NOT in Illinois. I like to say that I'm in the "S.E. 'Burbs"...about 20 min. from the city.

Agreed--- I was addressing the contention that he wasn't in violation-- which is false.

I imagine that the driver's attitude during the stop may have been a contributing factor.

Truth be told, I was QUITE polite during the stop, as I always am when dealing with the police, unless their attitude warrants a different approach. I have a number of friends who are cops in the city, and have the utmost respect for what thet have to deal with on the job. In fact, when I run into them at a bar, I refuse to let them buy, knowing what they make compared to what I do.
However, even if I HAD been beligerent, that doesn't excuse her making up and twisting the laws.