Make IPA Clear Again

[day_trippr]

Ah, well, that could be. And if that's the case, I'm sorry. But dang it! Let's bicker and argue!

That was exactly what I meant, and I see no point in trying to argue a highly popular beer style out of existence, or berate those who enjoy it. Life's too short for that.

Also, before hazies became a thing, all my IPAs were bright, including hundreds of gallons using my prolific home grown Cascade, Centennial and Chinook hops. Still keep at least one bright IPA on tap at all times, but I usually keep three hazies going, as that's where the interest still is around here...

Cheers!

 

[beersk]

That was exactly what I meant, and I see no point in trying to argue a highly popular beer style out of existence, or berate those who enjoy it. Life's too short for that.

Also, before hazies became a thing, all my IPAs were bright, including hundreds of gallons using my prolific home grown Cascade, Centennial and Chinook hops. Still keep at least one bright IPA on tap at all times, but I usually keep three hazies going, as that's where the interest still is around here...

Cheers!

Own it, dude. Sorry for being a d*ck. Have you seen my avatar? That's no excuse...

 

[Tomahawk47]

Hazy beer... the first beer!

 

[PCABrewing]

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Hazy beer... the first beer!

Hopefully the haze wasn't due to backwash

 

[Alan Reginato]

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Hazy beer... the first beer!

The guy in the middle... Is he adding sweetened orange juice?

 

[Sumisu3]

Treehouse has changed, but anyone could say that about any brewery that has grown tremendously. Heady has changed, too.

Effort is my main issue with West Coast IPA's from hyped breweries here on the East Coast. Most of them are half-assed attempts, as it's typically a brewery that specializes in NEIPA and does one to be trendy (which in itself is humorous to me). Most of the time they're just splitting hot-side NEIPA wort and pitching Chico and changing the hops up. They are usually under-bittered and just...half-assed.

For my taste, if you're looking for a good representation of NEIPA, you have to go New England local. I'm a big fan of what Freak Folk is doing up in Vermont. For West Coasts, like I said, most examples around here are mediocre. Pliny and Blind Pig are still my class examples of the style. By memory I was a huge fan of old Alpine and old Green Flash.

The old Green Flash. Ahhh. The tooth enamel stripping hops that just eased into a long beautiful bitterness. Loved that beer.

 

[AmarikinBrew]

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Hazy beer... the first beer!

CroMagnon Kool Aid!
With that thought, the 1st NEIPA I tried, the aroma reminded me of Kool-Aid, but with the many fruit flavors MIXED UP!

I dub the general category KIPA!

Maybe this fruit hops obsession appeals to the inner child? Make it like MILK has been put in it?

IDK, I'm old, I'm tired of fruit loops. This "style" doesn't interest me. Maybe they are trying to appeal to the younger generation.

 

[McMullan]

The guy in the middle... Is he adding sweetened orange juice?

The one to the left is naturally carbonating it to 2.3 volumes CO2 and the guy sat down is sucking it through a cocktail straw.

 

[AmarikinBrew]

The one to the left is naturally carbonating it to 2.3 volumes CO2 and the guy sat down is sucking it through a cocktail straw.

Sanitized his mouth with camel urine, as that is all they had in the area back then!

 

[day_trippr]

I made IPA clear again, again...

Cheers!

 

[Pugnax88]

My biggest issue with the Haze Craze is how it almost seems like WCIPA and the even more rare APA breweries have on tap are almost always hazy too. Like, NEIPA can be hazy and that's fine, but beer can be clear and that's ok.

Just unfortunate that those styles wouldn't move in the current market without that little bit of haze in there. I've been out of the game for a little while (went pro for a bit but am out of the industry now) and that is honestly one of the factors pulling me back in.

 

[Group W]

HB WCIPA with Citra, Centennial and Mosaic. 6% @ 60 IBUs. Delicious!

 

[Beermeister32]

Looks perfect! Great job!

 

[Broothru]

HB WCIPA with Citra, Centennial and Mosaic. 6% @ 60 IBUs. Delicious!
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Recipe? Please!?!

 

[Group W]

Recipe? Please!?!

Very simple.
95% 2-row, 5% c40.
Step mash 137, 148, 157 (10, 30, 30)
1oz warrior @ 60
2oz each cit/cenn/mos WP
1oz each cit/cenn/mos DH
Finish ferment at 1.009

 

[Nagorg]

Very simple.
95% 2-row, 5% c40.
Step mash 137, 148, 157 (10, 30, 30)
1oz warrior @ 60
2oz each cit/cenn/mos WP
1oz each cit/cenn/mos DH
Finish ferment at 1.009

Yeast?

 

[Group W]

Yeast?

Chico. Start @ 60 df. Start ramp to 68 on day 7 along with DH.

This is an old school recipe. The only IPA I do with crystal malt. My wife loves it. Will be replacing the Mosaic with Strata in future. Just had to try Mosaic again since it’s been a long time.

 

[Broothru]

Very simple.
95% 2-row, 5% c40.
Step mash 137, 148, 157 (10, 30, 30)
1oz warrior @ 60
2oz each cit/cenn/mos WP
1oz each cit/cenn/mos DH
Finish ferment at 1.009

 

[Broothru]

Target OG?

 

[Group W]

Target OG?

1.054

 

[Nagorg]

1.054

So more of a "Session IPA" huh?

 

[Group W]

So more of a "Session IPA" huh?

Not at all. My ABV on this beer is 6%. BJCP for American IPA is 5.5%-7.5%. My efficiency is high. Also, it has only been in the last 20 years that commercial brewers have pushed ABV on IPAs above 7%. I consider a session ipa to be 5%. More importantly, I like 6% beers. I want my friends driving home safe.

 

[Nagorg]

Not at all. My ABV on this beer is 6%. BJCP for American IPA is 5.5%-7.5%. My efficiency is high. Also, it has only been in the last 20 years that commercial brewers have pushed ABV on IPAs above 7%. I consider a session ipa to be 5%. More importantly, I like 6% beers. I want my friends driving home safe.

Fair enough, but definitely on the lower end. OG:1.054 and FG:1.009 lands you just shy of 6%. Don't get me wrong, its nice to be able to enjoy 3 beers and not be trashed. That's what I mean by "more of" a session IPA. Translated; more sessionable!

 

[Group W]

Fair enough, but definitely on the lower end. OG:1.054 and FG:1.009 lands you just shy of 6%. Don't get me wrong, its nice to be able to enjoy 3 beers and not be trashed. That's what I mean by "more of" a session IPA. Translated; more sessionable!

Again, by today’s standards, it’s sessionable. But you can label it whatever you want. Mox nix to me.

 

[sibelman]

I just stumbled across a news-like piece about hops and IPA. The author clearly didn't research IPA much, but the article has some interest.

 

[Broothru]

Inching ever closer to the West Coast. After hiking most of the afternoon in Joshua Tree National Park, I made a “refueling stop” at a local quick stop to provision with cereal malt rehydration. I found an interesting semi-local (for me, the out-of-stater) from a brewery in Coronado, CA.

A simple blonde ale, clocking in @ 4.5%, that hit precisely all the targeted spots. Ahh, sunset, with barbeque loin chops and grilled asparagus. The High Desert of California. Life is Good!!

 

[MegalomaniaC]

I only brew modern pale/blurry stuff in summer when friends ask for it. And all breweries here lean towards hazy hoppy stuff because people demand them and its either that or classic pilsners.

Me myself I brew and rather drink clearer classic IPAs or just british style ales. Then I lean towards belgian or german stuff.

So yeah, for me clear beers are a given.

 

[day_trippr]

Hahahaha!

https://www.forbes.com/sites/bradja...-according-to-the-beverage-testing-institute/

 

[NeoBrew]

Hahahaha!

https://www.forbes.com/sites/bradja...-according-to-the-beverage-testing-institute/

I wonder how much that cost them?

This was very much written like a marketing pitch.

 

[balrog]

I wonder how much that cost them?

This was very much written like a marketing pitch.

Disparage thee not the good name of the Institute!!
"...some of them are literally scientists..."

Wow.