legal or illegal maybe just not right

[madscientist451]

Just print out this photo and put it on a pole in front of the camera, it will give him something to look at.



http://americafirstpatriots.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/08/IMG_5214-1300x732.jpg

 

[shelly_belly]

You're concerned about a neighbor's camera facing your property yet you have one facing theirs?

 

[itsnotrequired]

my first approach would be to go speak with the neighbor. escalating the situation to the authorities before having a conversation could have additional repercussions. if you are not comfortable with that or they are unresponsive, take it to the law. speaking with a lawyer first isn't a bad idea either.

as much fun as it would be to jag around with the guy, need to take the high road here, especially if a convicted felon.

 

[Norselord]

I would put up a mirror...

 

[Norselord]

Laser, BBgun or a sign in front of it that says **** off! I wouldn't stand for it!

I like the laser idea. Just get a small cheap laser and fix it so that it permanently aims right at the lens.

 

[Newsman]

To me it looks more like a paintball target than a camera.

No, not a good idea. Destruction of Private Property. Might land the OP back in the county lockup or worse.

 

[Gavin C]

OP

I think you should take down your intrusive camera that looks into your neighbor's yard violating their privacy.

That's pretty bad form in my book.

I would not like a camera pointed at my space, least of all from a neighbor.

 

[brew_ny]

You're concerned about a neighbor's camera facing your property yet you have one facing theirs?

my neighbors house is 650 feet from any camera of mine

I am watch my property lines and making sure things behind my stockade do not get abuse

as in the video

but my neighbor's camera is pointing into my fenced in barnyard taking photo of my building's doorways and inside

I believe I have a legitimate purpose and they have no legitimate purpose

but I do see your point

S_M

 

[brew_ny]

OP

I think you should take down your intrusive camera that looks into your neighbor's yard violating their privacy.

That's pretty bad form in my book.

I would not like a camera pointed at my space, least of all from a neighbor.

which camera is that my friend the one the shows my property line with the women beating my fence with her bucket on her tractor?

their house is 650 feet form that camera

or the one that is pointed over my stockade fence in to my fenced in yard?

all the best

S_M

 

[TorMag]

Just saying, if a 3 time convicted felon moved in next door to me? Not sure what crimes you were convicted of (and none of my business), but you gave away certain rights with the first conviction let alone a third.

 

[Gavin C]

which camera is that my friend the one the shows my property line with the women beating my fence with her bucket on her tractor?

their house is 650 feet form that camera

or the one that is pointed over my stockade fence in to my fenced in yard?

all the best

S_M

The one that took a video of your neighbor in her yard that you shared with folks on the internet. That's the one I'd take down.

Which camera was erected first? Your's or your neighbor's. My guess is the former.

Your post just strikes me as a snapshot in time in the middle of a surveillance tit-for-tat.

It is conceivable that your neighbor may have some privacy concerns of her own.

 

[brew_ny]

Just saying, if a 3 time convicted felon moved in next door to me? Not sure what crimes you were convicted of (and none of my business), but you gave away certain rights with the first conviction let alone a third.

first off I have lived in this town for 20 years and they moved in four years ago

I did my time and paid my debt

I am now a network engineer for a Fortune 500 company

I did give away some rights indeed but I do not believe one of them is a right to privacy

all the best

S_M

 

[SteveHeff]

Just saying, if a 3 time convicted felon moved in next door to me? Not sure what crimes you were convicted of (and none of my business), but you gave away certain rights with the first conviction let alone a third.

He gave away ZERO rights. Obviously he is not incarcerated and whatever he did, his debt has been paid. Seriously, what an ignorant statement to make. Maybe you like to know about new neighbors who move to your neighborhood. Who knows? Maybe you're his next door neighbor making a case for yourself. Either way, he is entitled to ALL of his rights. How would you feel if somebody posted a camera pointed into your backyard/fenced in area? Regardless of your past legal history, I'm sure you'd be pissed off.

 

[brew_ny]

It is conceivable that your neighbor may have some privacy concerns of her own.

I agree she more then likely would have way more fun beating my page wire fence to death

good points my friend

S_M

 

[itsnotrequired]

to me, it looks like brew_ny's camera points down the property line, looking at the fence. i don't really see anything wrong with that, there is bound to be some of the neighbor's property in that view. unless you could angle the camera somehow to totally exclude their property but that doesn't make for the best viewing, sort of defeats the purpose of the camera.

looks like the neighbor's camera is perpendicular to your property line? if so, seems like it serves no other purpose than to look at you.

 

[Inkleg]

I agree she more then likely would have way more fun beating my page wire fence to death

I watched the video. Not sure what you saw, but to me it looked like she was try to shore up your fence that was leaning towards her property. Granted she's not the best at pushing a post in the ground with a bucket, but I'd give her a B+ for effort.

 

[TorMag]

He gave away ZERO rights. Obviously he is not incarcerated and whatever he did, his debt has been paid. Seriously, what an ignorant statement to make. Maybe you like to know about new neighbors who move to your neighborhood. Who knows? Maybe you're his next door neighbor making a case for yourself. Either way, he is entitled to ALL of his rights. How would you feel if somebody posted a camera pointed into your backyard/fenced in area? Regardless of your past legal history, I'm sure you'd be pissed off.

I'm not going to get in a pissing match with you because we will end up with web cams facing each other. As I said, I have no idea what crimes he committed, but 3 times convicted felon is a lot different than a one. Some states have 3 strikes your out laws. And I disagree, when you've committed felonies 3 times, meh, you've taken yourself out of being able to cry my rights are being violated.

 

[brew_ny]

I watched the video. Not sure what you saw, but to me it looked like she was try to shore up your fence that was leaning towards her property. Granted she's not the best at pushing a post in the ground with a bucket, but I'd give her a B+ for effort.

the stuff leaning toward her property her fence but my fence is six inches off my line

so when she is hitting my fence you would think that might be trespassing

but who know

S_M

 

[Inkleg]

the stuff leaning toward her property her fence but my fence is six inches off my line

so when she is hitting my fence you would think that might be trespassing

but who know

S_M

So you've told her this, right?

 

[brew_ny]

I'm not going to get in a pissing match with you because we will end up with web cams facing each other. As I said, I have no idea what crimes he committed, but 3 times convicted felon is a lot different than a one. Some states have 3 strikes your out laws. And I disagree, when you've committed felonies 3 times, meh, you've taken yourself out of being able to cry my rights are being violated.

my friend to say I am crying about anything only shows you do not know at all

but from your thinking if it was someone and because this someone may be lily white without sin

it would be wrong

but because 30 years ago I had some problems

I just need to suck it up

I get your train of thought

S_M

 

[brew_ny]

So you've told her this, right?

I tried to tell her and her husband four years ago where my survey stakes are

I have my map filed with the county years ago

I was told by her that she worked for a surveyor and that my lines are wrong

but they have made no effort to survey in four year

so go figure eh?

S_M

 

[TorMag]

my friend to say I am crying about anything only shows you do not know at all

but from your thinking if it was someone and because this someone may be lily white without sin

it would be wrong

but because 30 years ago I had some problems

I just need to suck it up

I get your train of thought

S_M

I know nothing about your situations and said as much. If i offended you then it is to you I apologize. But to the idiots who are giving you advise to break the laws in this situation, I am sure you know better.

 

[Aristotelian]

my neighbors house is 650 feet from any camera of mine

I am watch my property lines and making sure things behind my stockade do not get abuse

as in the video

but my neighbor's camera is pointing into my fenced in barnyard taking photo of my building's doorways and inside

I believe I have a legitimate purpose and they have no legitimate purpose

but I do see your point

S_M

Did you put your camera up first? It looks like it is looking directly into their yard, not at the line. Sounds like they are playing a "tit for tat" game that you started, even if you see a distinction between your camera and theirs.

If your wife says the neighbor is reasonable, maybe you could just have a discussion about your expectations around the lines and agree to both get rid of the cameras. If you don't think you can have a civil conversation about it, maybe write them a letter.

 

[brew_ny]

I know nothing about your situations and said as much. If i offended you then it is to you I apologize. But to the idiots who are giving you advise to break the laws in this situation, I am sure you know better.

no worries my friend and if breaking the law was good idea I would have done just that four years ago

hell I could buy myself a new Harley Davidson and a Eastwing ball peen hammer end of story

hell I would have better odds at a jury trial (12 to 1) then at power ball

but in the end I will try to do it by legal means

without laws we are nothing more the beasts in the field

S_M

 

[brew_ny]

It looks like it is looking directly into their yard, not at the line.

the one that took the video is looking down my line

the one looking over the stockade is theirs

all the best

S_M

 

[Aristotelian]

the one that took the video is looking down my line

the one looking over the stockade is theirs

all the best

S_M

In the video, about half the screen is taken up by the area enclosed by fences where the lady is driving around the blue tractor. If she is driving around her property and you can see her, that means your camera is pointed at her property, even if your intention is to monitor your line. You both need to point your cameras straight down, or better yet, get rid of them.

 

[Homercidal]

Ok, people, let's try to not jump at conclusions here.

IMO it may be lawful to set up a camera facing your property line and there is some overlap with your neighbor's property. You may have a legit reason by claiming to watch for trespassers. I doubt it's legal to point a camera over a fence and directly into a neighbor's yard. Even Police Officers might not know the details, though. That's why we still have lawyers after all these years. We can assume all we want, but there have been many instances where common sense is not what they law says. Best to ask the experts.

OP, there are many cases where property lines are recorded erroneously. Yours may be such a case. But if your neighbor wants to dispute it, then they will have to pay someone to survey before they can even think about disputing any boundaries. Of course you know this, and you know they haven't a leg to stand on until they do. Apparently they aren't terribly concerned or they would have put their money where their mouth is.

 

[slym2none]

I'm not going to get in a pissing match with you because we will end up with web cams facing each other. As I said, I have no idea what crimes he committed, but 3 times convicted felon is a lot different than a one. Some states have 3 strikes your out laws. And I disagree, when you've committed felonies 3 times, meh, you've taken yourself out of being able to cry my rights are being violated.

Wow. Just... wow.

 

[YeastMode]

To put this in some context, in some states you could be theoretically be convicted of three felonies by stealing a fire extinguisher, while having any amount of a controlled substance (like pot) on you at the time of doing so, and being in possession of someone's (other than yourself) drivers license.

Other notable felonies in my wonderful home state:

Molesting a stone/blue crab trap, owning a still (as in moonshine or similar), unlawfully reproducing a trade secret, bigamy....there are a bunch more fun ones.

Point is, not all felons are significant threats to society.

So OP, how many crab traps did you molest?

 

[kristiismean]

here in Illinois, you are NOT allowed to put up a camera and have it point to other peoples private property. Only public (intentionally).

as that camera is a Motion Activated camera, (supposed to used for hunting, and the resolution is not great,) It is in direct violation or your "Expected privacy". Take a picture of your yard, print it out, tape it to a board and hang it in front of the camera. Then go to civil court, file the paperwork, choose a monetary amount and have him served.

Then if he still does not take down the camera, talk to a lawyer at that time. (or before hand). but it's a Civil case, not a criminal I think. But as always, check with your lawyer.