Lambic Discussion Thread

[steinbbr]

Am I the only one who prefers regular 3F geuze to A&G? Maybe the A&G will age out better, but right now the regular geuze is fire!

 

[omegagogetass4]

Am I the only one who prefers regular 3F geuze to A&G? Maybe the A&G will age out better, but right now the regular geuze is fire!

Not the only one. Regular gueuze is the best gueuze on the market

 

[holldy01]

Am I the only one who prefers regular 3F geuze to A&G? Maybe the A&G will age out better, but right now the regular geuze is fire!

Not the only one. Regular gueuze is the best gueuze on the market

I liked the first round of A&G more so than this past years. However still prefer regular 3F OG. When BiaB had their buy 32 og and get 1 A&G I ended up buying two and splitting the boxes w some friends. However I kept the majority of the og since no one wanted more than a handful. Very happy it stuck me with about 3 cases worth of 2015 og. Whenever I don't know what to grab from the cellar it's a wonderful go to.

 

[SeaWatchman]

Am I the only one who prefers regular 3F geuze to A&G? Maybe the A&G will age out better, but right now the regular geuze is fire!

Nope. I think they're blending A/G too sharp. I prefer the balance from the regular OG.

 

[Compton25]

Checking in on Cuvée Lambikstoempers. Boon mineral notes still dominate and the green apple tartness from earlier bottles has faded. A strong lemon dryness has emerged in it’s place. As always, an absolute delight.

 

[holldy01]

Nope. I think they're blending A/G too sharp. I prefer the balance from the regular OG.

What do you mean by sharp? For me what I love about regular OG at its peak is the bright citrus and the sour green apple and funk. The 3 different A&G blends I have had have been missing that citrus brightness. They've been a bit too heavy and muddled flavor-wise.

 

[stupac2]

Nope. I think they're blending A/G too sharp. I prefer the balance from the regular OG.

I'm glad I'm not the only one. The most recent blends up on Etre are just... way too sour. I was pretty surprised.

 

[stakem1]

I liked the first round of A&G more so than this past years. However still prefer regular 3F OG.

When I had paper label A&G for the first time I went into the experience expecting nothing more than 3f OG and it ended up absolutely blowing my expectations away. Not that ive drank a ton of A&G but that first over-carbonated bottle I got to try floored me and no bottle ive had since has been the same.

Reading others say that recent A&G is too sharp is conflicting compared to my experience unless batch 18 with straffe is an outlier in this instance because I found that to be significant less bright/sour than OG bottled in the same timeframe.

 

[SeaWatchman]

What do you mean by sharp? For me what I love about regular OG at its peak is the bright citrus and the sour green apple and funk. The 3 different A&G blends I have had have been missing that citrus brightness. They've been a bit too heavy and muddled flavor-wise.

I'm glad I'm not the only one. The most recent blends up on Etre are just... way too sour. I was pretty surprised.

Sometime's too acidic for my tastes, but I don't believe I've opened a 16-17 batch in a while. The regular 3F OG has a depth to it that likely comes from the Boon lambic and that citrus brightness that holldy01 mentions I think comes from the Lindemans. A/G is good and I think certainly distinguishable from the OG, and maybe it's blended more to Michael's tastes in general. Armand isn't doing any blending anymore so of course there was going to be a change. The 3F lambic on its own is great, but I think they may still be seeing how the various characteristics work together. That being said, Pension Blend is an all 3F Golden Blend and it was really good, so maybe the 4yr was playing a bigger role.

 

[Tlo4sho]

Armand isn't doing any blending anymore so of course there was going to be a change.

When did Armand step away from blending?

 

[SeaWatchman]

When did Armand step away from blending?

When he retired at 65

 

[SeaWatchman]

Got into a Hanssens discussion in the L.I Facebook group and was sort of challenged to start opening some older bottles from them, soooo here we go: Hanssens Mead the Gueuze - In the world of things blended with lambic, this is one of the stranger ones. A blend of 70% lambic and 30% Lurgashall Mead (which doesn't seem to be a company anymore), this 37,5cl bottle from ca.2002 has actually held up well. Though there's no carbonation to speak of, the taste is pleasant, and there's no real oxidation. Whatever lambic characteristics there were when this was bottled have taken a complete backseat to a honey/tea combination with a very slight hint of some funkiness in the taste. The nose still has a more lambic-like presence with some earthier woody notes coming through. It's a rather thin drink, but not at all what was expected.

 

[dadavat]

Got into a Hanssens discussion in the L.I Facebook group and was sort of challenged to start opening some older bottles from them, soooo here we go: Hanssens Mead the Gueuze - In the world of things blended with lambic, this is one of the stranger ones. A blend of 70% lambic and 30% Lurgashall Mead (which doesn't seem to be a company anymore), this 37,5cl bottle from ca.2002 has actually held up well. Though there's no carbonation to speak of, the taste is pleasant, and there's no real oxidation. Whatever lambic characteristics there were when this was bottled have taken a complete backseat to a honey/tea combination with a very slight hint of some funkiness in the taste. The nose still has a more lambic-like presence with some earthier woody notes coming through. It's a rather thin drink, but not at all what was expected.

this was a big want of mine until i realized how impossible it would be to land. glad to hear it holds up!

 

[matedog]

Got into a Hanssens discussion in the L.I Facebook group and was sort of challenged to start opening some older bottles from them, soooo here we go: Hanssens Mead the Gueuze - In the world of things blended with lambic, this is one of the stranger ones. A blend of 70% lambic and 30% Lurgashall Mead (which doesn't seem to be a company anymore), this 37,5cl bottle from ca.2002 has actually held up well. Though there's no carbonation to speak of, the taste is pleasant, and there's no real oxidation. Whatever lambic characteristics there were when this was bottled have taken a complete backseat to a honey/tea combination with a very slight hint of some funkiness in the taste. The nose still has a more lambic-like presence with some earthier woody notes coming through. It's a rather thin drink, but not at all what was expected.

Post the other old Hanssesns bottles you mention on fb, plz.

 

[SeaWatchman]

Post the other old Hanssesns bottles you mention on fb, plz.

#Hanssensweek?

 

[Digita7693]

this was a big want of mine until i realized how impossible it would be to land. glad to hear it holds up!

Had it two years ago and thought it was just ok, nothing id even pay 10€ to try again. To each their own

 

[bostonvert]

Any of you lambic nerds ever seen one of these before? Frank Boon double faro, probably eighties. Didn't want to turn the bottle around to check for a bottle date as its been sitting for at least 20 years or more. I've never seen one for sale!

 

[LuxWanderer]

Any of you lambic nerds ever seen one of these before? Frank Boon double faro, probably eighties. Didn't want to turn the bottle around to check for a bottle date as its been sitting for at least 20 years or more. I've never seen one for sale!

Very cool. Never seen anyone with a bottle. Have the proper glassware for it though

 

[Saind]

Any of you lambic nerds ever seen one of these before? Frank Boon double faro, probably eighties. Didn't want to turn the bottle around to check for a bottle date as its been sitting for at least 20 years or more. I've never seen one for sale!

I've got the label above my desk, never seen a bottle of it

 

[GregorySingh]

Any of you lambic nerds ever seen one of these before? Frank Boon double faro, probably eighties. Didn't want to turn the bottle around to check for a bottle date as its been sitting for at least 20 years or more. I've never seen one for sale!

Do you all think a Faro that old would still be sweet? Could the excess sugar get eaten up during bottle conditioning?

 

[omegagogetass4]

Do you all think a Faro that old would still be sweet? Could the excess sugar get eaten up during bottle conditioning?

I just had a faro approximately that old. It wasnt obviously sweet, more of a malty character. It wasn't very oxidative either.

 

[Pneill3161]

I had an 88 eylenbosch a couple years back, oxidized AF but still sweet and drinkable. That being said the $20 I paid for it, I wouldnt spend again.

 

[matedog]

Any of you lambic nerds ever seen one of these before? Frank Boon double faro, probably eighties. Didn't want to turn the bottle around to check for a bottle date as its been sitting for at least 20 years or more. I've never seen one for sale!

I'm curious about the "double" aspect of it. Is the ABV higher than usual faros?

 

[SeaWatchman]

http://www.lambic.info/Faro_Pertotale

We don't have a ton on it (anything really), but I did get a 25cl bottle of it in Namur back in 2015. I gifted it to Forgetfu for science, and he said it was not good.

 

[mateoloco]

#Hanssensweek?

Isn't that every week trickytunadicky ?

 

[infi]

Haven't seen the name 'Mead the Gueuze' in such a long time. Was lucky to find btls of them back in '09/'10 sitting on my local's shelf and bought them up, knowing they were very scarce. Nice to read an update on them after all these years. SeaWatchman I remember us trying to figure out a trade for them, back in the old BA days.

 

[matedog]

Side note, Mead the Gueuze sounds like the most 2018 thing possible. Right down to the “Run the Jewels” reference.

 

[JCastle1]

Side note, Mead the Gueuze sounds like the most 2018 thing possible. Right down to the “Run the Jewels” reference.

Not enough cryohops.

 

[GetchaPull]

Still needs time. Quite a lot of rhubarb as of a month ago, but butyric acid is obvious. Zwanze '12 it is not, if it will ever be, due to the fresh rhubarb.

Enjoyed a few bottles of Nath last weekend (neglected to note bottle dates) and none of them suffered from much butyric acid, if at all. Seems to be hitting its long stride -- lots of life left in this one, IMO. Naturally, still quite different from Z12, but really nice nonetheless.

 

[bostonvert]

I'm curious about the "double" aspect of it. Is the ABV higher than usual faros?

No idea, I dont think the label mentions it. This is just one of those bottles I'm happy to have but no idea when to drink it. Have to much other stuff that I'd like to try first