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Pretty sure those are sweetened, at least they are if its the one in the image below. Not to the point of the Lindemans bottles though. There were a few sitting on the shelf here on closeout recently for $1.99/bottle.

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Is it pasteurized too then or just sweetened with non-fermentables? And is same true of regular Boon Kriek?
 
I was at a liquor store the other day and saw 375ml bottles of Framboise Boon with 2012 on the neck label, they were $9 a piece and I was wondering if these were traditional framboise or sweetened. I looked at BA reviews and just searched the first page for both "sweet" and "sour" and both came up 30 times... Anyone here have experience?

Pretty sure those are sweetened, at least they are if its the one in the image below. Not to the point of the Lindemans bottles though. There were a few sitting on the shelf here on closeout recently for $1.99/bottle.

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Boon says on their website that they use 300 grams of fresh raspberries per liter and there is no artificial colorings or flavorings. It could very well be "naturally" sweetened, but the description in all of the literature is unclear.
 
Boon says on their website that they use 300 grams of fresh raspberries per liter and there is no artificial colorings or flavorings. It could very well be "naturally" sweetened, but the description in all of the literature is unclear.
Interesting. Thanks for that info. It certainly tasted pretty sweet and jammy, but not so sweet as Lindemans. I certainly wasn't going back for more bottles at $1.99/375ml though
 
Question for the experts on Cantillon's cognac lambic bottles:

Seems there are multiple beers that all came from oak cognac casks that were placed in barrels in March of 2005 and then bottled at different times. 50N b1 has a 2007 cork date, Crianza has a 2008 cork date, and LH12 has a 2010 cork date but they all reference beer (at least in part) that came from cognac barrels that was originally placed in March 2005. Was there differences other than time spent in these barrels before being bottled that led to the formation of these beers. There are also bottles of "cognac lambic" that are referenced and wonder if these are different than the above beers. I believe there was a 2003 "cognac lamb" which is obviously a different cognac barrel and may have been a test batch for the beers that followed in 2005? There was also a 2005 "cognac lambic" with a hand written label on it that was checked in on untapped as LH12 at Spuyten Duyvil for Zwanze Day 2013 and wondering if this was correct or if this was more like B1 50N? Just trying to get a handle on all these different lambic variations that appear to have all been put in barrels at the same time in 2005 in terms of things that make all these beers unique other than time in the barrel. Any help from the experts (SeaWatchman Forgetfu et al) would be appreciated.
 
I don't have specific answers for most of these, but I do know this one:

There was also a 2005 "cognac lambic" with a hand written label on it that was checked in on untapped as LH12 at Spuyten Duyvil for Zwanze Day 2013 and wondering if this was correct or if this was more like B1 50N?

It's just b1 50N4E with a different label. Those bottles were brought in by Shelton and served at the Philadelphia Lambic Summit event & Spuyten Brettember in 2010, where there were a lot of weirdly-labeled bottles. At least a few more have been sold at Spuyten Grocery and at the bar since then. It looked like this:

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I don't have specific answers for most of these, but I do know this one:



It's just b1 50N4E with a different label. Those bottles were brought in by Shelton and served at the Philadelphia Lambic Summit event & Spuyten Brettember in 2010, where there were a lot of weirdly-labeled bottles. At least a few more have been sold at Spuyten Grocery and at the bar since then. It looked like this:

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50N4E wasn't served at the Lambic Summit. It was LH12. According to Jean at the Lambic Summit, there were 300 bottles made. I've never been sure about these March 2005 bottles, but it makes sense that they were LH12. This bottling date is also the same week that the Moeder LH12 bottles show.
 
Ah, maybe they were just brought over at the same time (there were a bunch of Lambic Summit "leftovers" at Brettember). It definitely wasn't LH12, we had them side-by-side (and it was being sold as 50N4E by Spuyten).
 
Ah, maybe they were just brought over at the same time (there were a bunch of Lambic Summit "leftovers" at Brettember). It definitely wasn't LH12, we had them side-by-side (and it was being sold as 50N4E by Spuyten).
Cork dates on this 05 hand label is 07 not 10 making this more likely 50N correct and not LH12?
 
Brian - What's the cork date on your bottle? Edit: Damn, you beat me to it. Ya, that sounds like you have a 50n4e.
 

Do you hate all AWA or just the ones that use the word Lambic?
Nope, just the ones that levifunk makes.

Also how big is your cellar, seems like you have everything?
The cellar looks like Stonehenge and my spreadsheet tells me I have 522 bottles. It's mostly normal stuff, though.

Is it just a second house full of Lambics?
Nope, just a basement-full. Forgetfu can attest.


With regard to Cantillon's cognac barrels, there's not a whole lot known.

2003 = Probably experimental, there are a few bottles around. Unknown if it went into any blends.

2005 = The base for beers like LH12 (brewed March 5, 2005, bottled April 2, 2010), the cognac lambic above (brewed March 01, 2005, bottled 2007), and 50n4e batch 1 (brewed March 2005, bottled 03/30/2007)

The 2005 cognac lambic is also a component of Crianza Helena with the label stating that is a blend comprising of 40 month old lambic from Cognac barrles (putting it around that 2005 date) as well as 30 month old Bordeaux barrel lambic and 15 month old young lambic.

And then there is batch two of 50n which is from Grosperrin cognac barrels and was bottled in 2012.

Cognac barrels that were emptied in November 2012 and presumably filled by Cantillon in the spring of 2013 have yet to be used for anything AFAIK.
 
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Nope, just the ones that levifunk makes.


The cellar looks like Stonehenge and my spreadsheet tells me I have 522 bottles. It's mostly normal stuff, though.


Nope, just a basement-full. Forgetfu can attest.


With regard to Cantillon's cognac barrels, there's not a whole lot known.

2003 = Probably experimental, there are a few bottles around. Unknown if it went into any blends.

2005 = The base for beers like LH12 (brewed March 5, 2005, bottled April 2, 2010), the cognac lambic above (brewed March 01, 2005, bottled 2007), and 50n4e batch 1 (brewed March 2005, bottled 03/30/2007)

The 2005 cognac lambic is also a component of Crianza Helena with the label stating that is a blend comprising of 40 month old lambic from Cognac barrles (putting it around that 2005 date) as well as 30 month old Bordeaux barrel lambic and 15 month old young lambic.

And then there is batch two of 50n which is from Grosperrin cognac barrels and was bottled in 2012.

Cognac barrels that were emptied in November 2012 and presumably filled by Cantillon in the spring of 2013 have yet to be used for anything AFAIK.
Thank you for the reply above! Specifically for LH12 and B1 50N are there other differences besides being in these casks for 3 years longer in the case LH12 versus 50N as they were brewed w in days of each other? Or is LH12 basically 50N that just spent 3 additional years barrel aging? I am likely being overly simplistic I realize...
 
Thank you for the reply above! Specifically for LH12 and B1 50N are there other differences besides being in these casks for 3 years longer in the case LH12 versus 50N as they were brewed w in days of each other? Or is LH12 basically 50N that just spent 3 additional years barrel aging? I am likely being overly simplistic I realize...

Apart from the age, LH1 was bottled without any priming sugar and is subsequently flat. 50n is primed for refermentation in the bottle. I don't think anyone outside of the brewery knows specifically how many cognac casks were filled in March 2005, but I think it's safe to assume at least three or more. The last round that was delivered in 2013 was 8 total casks of varying sizes.
 
OK I'll bite:

Why are 2008 Lou Pepe's bottled in 2011 (e.g. the one I have, implying a 3 year difference), and yet I saw pictures of 2012 Cantillon Lou Pepes posted in 2014 (hell we're even still in 2014 by most accounts). Is this some sort of time paradox? (the difference is 3 years in the first case and 2 in the second).
 
OK I'll bite:

Why are 2008 Lou Pepe's bottled in 2011 (e.g. the one I have, implying a 3 year difference), and yet I saw pictures of 2012 Cantillon Lou Pepes posted in 2014 (hell we're even still in 2014 by most accounts). Is this some sort of time paradox? (the difference is 3 years in the first case and 2 in the second).
Because there's not a set time between brewing and bottling, any given batch takes as long as it takes. Plus some of these are actually nearly the same length it's just bottled in Jan vs Dec or something like that.
 
A "special" beer Girardin did in 2009, i think 1400 bottles or something? I've heard mixed reviews from good/average to really really good.

I'm sure someone can provide better info.... SeaWatchman

Girardin Fond Gueuze Bierpallieters is a gueuze blended and bottled in 2009 specifically for the Bierpallieters tasting group. It is 5% ABV and 1400 bottles were labeled and released.Though bottled in 2009, this gueuze was released at the 20th anniversary of the Weekend of Spontaneous Fermentation in 2011. The label for the Giradin Fond Gueuze Bierpallieters is thought to be a take on the old Brasserie Brabrux Van der Perre Geuze label, pictured below.

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Girardin Fond Gueuze Bierpallieters is a gueuze blended and bottled in 2009 specifically for the Bierpallieters tasting group. It is 5% ABV and 1400 bottles were labeled and released.Though bottled in 2009, this gueuze was released at the 20th anniversary of the Weekend of Spontaneous Fermentation in 2011. The label for the Giradin Fond Gueuze Bierpallieters is thought to be a take on the old Brasserie Brabrux Van der Perre Geuze label, pictured below.

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you never dissapoint
 
I check this thread every month or so and it is such a fascinating read. Is the lambic wiki up and running yet that some of you guys were putting together?

We're close!

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Stats as of tonight:

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We've got lots of great information gathered already, as is apparent by the fact that SeaWatchman comes across as smart when talking about lambic. Now we just need to get input from the producers themselves. We'll be offering it to the lambic producers in the next few weeks to see if they want to offer any corrections or input. After that, we'll get it out for everyone.
 
We're close!

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Stats as of tonight:

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We've got lots of great information gathered already, as is apparent by the fact that SeaWatchman comes across as smart when talking about lambic. Now we just need to get input from the producers themselves. We'll be offering it to the lambic producers in the next few weeks to see if they want to offer any corrections or input. After that, we'll get it out for everyone.
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Apart from the age, LH1 was bottled without any priming sugar and is subsequently flat. 50n is primed for refermentation in the bottle. I don't think anyone outside of the brewery knows specifically how many cognac casks were filled in March 2005, but I think it's safe to assume at least three or more. The last round that was delivered in 2013 was 8 total casks of varying sizes.

Worth flagging here that the cognac lambic available at SD was flat, so quite possibly not b1 50N.
 
We're close!

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Stats as of tonight:

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We've got lots of great information gathered already, as is apparent by the fact that SeaWatchman comes across as smart when talking about lambic. Now we just need to get input from the producers themselves. We'll be offering it to the lambic producers in the next few weeks to see if they want to offer any corrections or input. After that, we'll get it out for everyone.


*******, it's not even in American?
 
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