Lambic Discussion Thread

[Dbijnagte]

Etre box shipped on 12/21 just arrived today.

Super efficient.

That’s not that bad. I’ve had up to 10 weeks before.

 

[NClambicguy]

Boon Black Label b4 is now on Etre.

 

[pldevo]

Shelf Cantillon back up on Etre

 

[wuntrikpony]

Tried to press and hold “Like” to select a different emotion... but you know, this site doesn’t have that feature.

I'll take that updated react now, thanks.

 

[texascheesemonger]

Any of the Lambic Lords here know if 3F Rode Bosbes was ever released to go?

 

[NClambicguy]

Any of the Lambic Lords here know if 3F Rode Bosbes was ever released to go?

I believe that one is Sweden only and should go on sale very soon.

 

[SeaWatchman]

Any of the Lambic Lords here know if 3F Rode Bosbes was ever released to go?

sweden only, 1pp, releasing on the 27th through the online monopoly. Has also been available to drink-in at the Droom recently.

 

[iong516]

Thanks for hosting SeaWatchman

 

[NClambicguy]

Huge restock of Golden Blend for those trying to fill out quarterly shipments

 

[pldevo]

Etre is now unable to ship internationally. Hopefully I can get my Q1 box by the end of this year.

 

[NClambicguy]

Etre is now unable to ship internationally. Hopefully I can get my Q1 box by the end of this year.

My wife has regularly given me **** about the amount of beer I have but all this time I was just prepping for 2020.

 

[pldevo]

Beer in 2020 was off to such a great start too.

 

[MKtheGeneral]

Etre is now unable to ship internationally. Hopefully I can get my Q1 box by the end of this year.

Any more details?

 

[NClambicguy]

Hello,

Thank you for your order and support in these difficult times! It’s really appreciated.

Unfortunately, bpost (Our logistics partner for international shipments) just announced that due to a reduced number of flights and reduced capacity, they won’t be able to deliver packages outside of Europe until further notice.

• - We keep your order in our warehouse until bpost starts shipping internationally again.
• - Or cancel and refund the entire order.

We are really sorry for the inconvenience, but unfortunately it is out of our hands.
We thank you for your patience and understanding!

 

[NClambicguy]

Late check in from Q day, but this beer is drinking fantastic right now. It has that perfect balance of funk with grape notes throughout. If you want a great description ask wuntrikpony because he also drank a bottle and is much better at the whole descriptor/picture game.

On another note, what’s the word with Divin lambic? I know it’s Grenache Nour grapes and melds wine and lambic, which is something I would love to try. Anyone know how I can get my hands on a bottle without chasing secondary? How have these been released so far? SeaWatchman have I missed this being posted on lambic.info?

 

[SeaWatchman]

On another note, what’s the word with Divin lambic? I know it’s Grenache Nour grapes and melds wine and lambic, which is something I would love to try. Anyone know how I can get my hands on a bottle without chasing secondary? How have these been released so far? @SeaWatchman have I missed this being posted on lambic.info?

I haven't created a page for it on the site yet, but there were at least two threads about it in the group. One just pointing out it exists and then a very detailed review in French from the winemaker who provided the grapes. That apparently drove some people from DDT to want to quit the FB group and offer dick tugs, so I guess they were angry? Label was designed by Ammo. The rear label was mis-translated and is wrong, so they're printing new ones. Bottled 22 Dec 2019.

It's not a co-ferment or anything, it's just the winemaker who provided the viognier grapes for the new Vigneronne also had these late harvest Grenache noir grapes and Jean took them. I haven't been able to get a straight number on bottles, it's between 700 (Jean's number) and 900 (Christophe's number) and it was split pretty evenly between the two of them. I don't think it will see any legitimate distro/takeaway from Cantillon, but I know some folks have gotten some out of the winery, so it might pop up in trades and/or secondary. Hopefully able to drink-in at the brewery when it opens back up again though!

 

[NClambicguy]

I haven't created a page for it on the site yet, but there were at least two threads about it in the group. One just pointing out it exists and then a very detailed review in French from the winemaker who provided the grapes. That apparently drove some people from DDT to want to quit the FB group and offer dick tugs, so I guess they were angry? Label was designed by Ammo. The rear label was mis-translated and is wrong, so they're printing new ones. Bottled 22 Dec 2019.

It's not a co-ferment or anything, it's just the winemaker who provided the viognier grapes for the new Vigneronne also had these late harvest Grenache noir grapes and Jean took them. I haven't been able to get a straight number on bottles, it's between 700 (Jean's number) and 900 (Christophe's number) and it was split pretty evenly between the two of them. I don't think it will see any legitimate distro/takeaway from Cantillon, but I know some folks have gotten some out of the winery, so it might pop up in trades and/or secondary. Hopefully able to drink-in at the brewery when it opens back up again though!

Cool, thanks for taking the time to respond to me. Sounds fairly unobtainable at this point. Oh well.

 

[riko1]

Anyone know how I can get my hands on a bottle without chasing secondary?

Is there a way to get any Cantillon in the U.S. without chasing secondary?

 

[drgarage1]

Work for a beer store and/or Shelton Brothers?

 

[Mikrobial]

Yeah gotta figure out who distributes Shelton in your area. Suck their dick for information.

 

[PrinceCasual]

Yeah gotta figure out who distributes Shelton in your area. Suck their dick for information.

And pray that Shelton isn't exacting vengeance on said distributor for something that happened years (decades?) earlier, resulting in no / minimal product ending up in the state much less on a retail shelf. I've simply given up :: sigh ::

In VA for example some issue with the franchised distributor "Hop & Wine" has resulted in no 3F or Cantillon making it to retail, at all. ZERO. There's some kind of backdoor deal with NRG (Churchkey group) because they will occasionally have bottles (as will very occasionally Pizza Paradiso) but that's the extent of Shelton in VA.

Drives me nuts to see places like Oregon where they are wheeling pallets of 3F into stores, while in VA in ~9yrs of looking I've seen 3F on the shelf a grand total of zero times. Not even one time have I seen a 3F bottle on a shelf. In DC it's a similar story where they funnel all of the lambic through NRG's The Sovereign, who have a back library of 4 pages in the menu of 3F that is going no where fast, and yet only a few random specialty stores in DC will have 3F, at super high prices I'm unwilling to pay.


That sure is a nice Lambic portfolio ya'll got, I sure would like a chance to by them at retail literally one time ever.... no huh? Okay.

 

[Dbijnagte]

And pray that Shelton isn't exacting vengeance on said distributor for something that happened years (decades?) earlier, resulting in no / minimal product ending up in the state much less on a retail shelf. I've simply given up :: sigh ::

In VA for example some issue with the franchised distributor "Hop & Wine" has resulted in no 3F or Cantillon making it to retail, at all. ZERO. There's some kind of backdoor deal with NRG (Churchkey group) because they will occasionally have bottles (as will very occasionally Pizza Paradiso) but that's the extent of Shelton in VA.

Drives me nuts to see places like Oregon where they are wheeling pallets of 3F into stores, while in VA in ~9yrs of looking I've seen 3F on the shelf a grand total of zero times. Not even one time have I seen a 3F bottle on a shelf. In DC it's a similar story where they funnel all of the lambic through NRG's The Sovereign, who have a back library of 4 pages in the menu of 3F that is going no where fast, and yet only a few random specialty stores in DC will have 3F, at super high prices I'm unwilling to pay.


That sure is a nice Lambic portfolio ya'll got, I sure would like a chance to by them at retail literally one time ever.... no huh? Okay.

You should come to MN. Shelton left in 2012 so we actually get nothing, no bars get it, no stores get it. We have girardin and Tilquin though which works.

 

[PrinceCasual]

You should come to MN. Shelton left in 2012 so we actually get nothing, no bars get it, no stores get it. We have girardin and Tilquin though which works.

I hear you. To be clear like an A&G 375 would be $49- $59 both at the bar that gets them and the stores with secondary pricing, so in a lot of ways they may as well not have them since there's zero chance I'm paying that ($149 for Hommage, $39.99 'loon guezue 375, etc).

Here too there's ample Hannsens's/ Boon / Girardin and tons of types of Tilquin at correct price (which is the main brand I too buy and age) which helps, but again reinforces that it's not some insane demand, rather seemingly irrational Shelton spite.

You'd think people like Mikkeller, Prairie, Anchorage, Jolly Pumpkin would like to be with an Importer/ Supplier who doesn't intentionally not do business with their distributor partners in entire states, but I guess not. It really makes no sense at all to me considering these are brands (as well as all the small import stuff) don't seem like they are flying off the shelf and I never see any of these brands despite living in one of the highest income areas in the country (NoVA / DC). It's strange to me but I'm pretty much resigned to the fact that I have no access to these lambics - at least I'm not wasting time hunting and coming up empty handed.

 

[Mikrobial]

In VA for example some issue with the franchised distributor "Hop & Wine" has resulted in no 3F or Cantillon making it to retail, at all. ZERO. There's some kind of backdoor deal with NRG (Churchkey group) because they will occasionally have bottles (as will very occasionally Pizza Paradiso) but that's the extent of Shelton in VA.

I happen to have incredibly intimate knowledge of this particular situation... All I am going to say is Hop&Wine A) Is a distributor without high morals or discern for product integrity B) They have been off and on with Shelton at various points and I don't blame Shelton Bros for not giving them the best product C) Shouldn't be supported if avoidable IMO.

This "backdoor" deal you speak of is merely Neighborhood Restaurant Group exercising the their purchasing power in the wild west of DC beverage laws. They purchase the beer directly from Shelton and don't need a distributor in the middle which means higher margins and more access. NRG happens to be the second or third largest account for Shelton in the country. Someone should let ABRA know that NRG moves alcoholic beverages between their various businesses illegally, also.

Your best bet is to go into DC and get releases at Craft Beer Cellar on H St. NE for most lambic. Sucks there isn't good Shelton distro in VA.

 

[andrewcschultz]

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[Digita7693]

Drives me nuts to see places like Oregon where they are wheeling pallets of 3F into stores,

I know of a pallet of cantillon arriving in Oregon soon...

 

[PrinceCasual]

I happen to have incredibly intimate knowledge of this particular situation... All I am going to say is Hop&Wine

Word.

I dislike supporting NRG because I have had some *not just bad but downright * disrespectful service in their establishments, not just one or two times but systematically at all outlets in both DC and VA. They're ******* ********.

Every single time I give them another chance I'll sit down at the bar for 10min and "inconvenience" the bartender for a menu - never get waters - finally get a drink after 20min (mind you a draft pour not some **** they have to drive to Greg's house to find)- never get the chance to order a second - after trying to get a bill for 25min be tempted to walk out on the check because **** these guys and clearly no one is even aware I'm sitting at the bar. 100% of the time I have gone to The Soveriegn I have gotten that type of service, and the coolers overflowing with every 3F bottle in the city does not help my frustration. Churchkey is even worse, if you can believe that.

Hubris to the max. Donkey ass food. Servers who all likely have personality disorders. It's annoying that such ********* are the only ones who get the good Shelton stuff near me. /blog

 

[BelgianChris]

Some tasting notes :

The aroma and taste resembles a lot like a Lambic d'Aunis, but less peppery.
Low to no carbonation.
The Grenache noir grape with its typical rosé wine flavour is very well balanced in this blend, with a very subtle acidity.
Some tarte cherries in the aftertaste.
Really smooth and mellow with great aging potential.
It's actually too early to open this bottle, but I was too curious and couldn't resist.
Glad I cracked it open because it's excellent!

 

[Digita7693]

This arrived today

 

[NClambicguy]

This arrived today

Just finished rounding out my 12 shipper. Will fill out the online form later today.