nathanmiller
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I would buy that autumn box without blinking.
And I'm going to, but only after complaining about it on the internet.I would buy that autumn box without blinking.
No, you're comparing the price of purchasing direct from manufacturer at their physical retail location to the price of buying a distributed retail product. It's not a reasonable comparison. No one who would be buying retail from the US would be buying direct from 3F without having to consider the additional shipping & handling costs.
€13/bottle average is priced pretty steep? I’d didagrre with that if you’re looking at retail prices stateside (if you could even find them)
I mean, I guess. It's not like you're buying 3F bottles at wholesale prices when you're at the Droom though.
Is there a limit on Gooikoorts?
Again, this is a ridiculous take, as there's no way to get a bottle to the US without shipping. Part of the retail markup in the US is the non trivial shipping and import taxes to get the beer there. You can't just hand wave that away like it doesn't exist.I don't really factor in the cost of shipping and handling into those prices.
Again, this is a ridiculous take, as there's no way to get a bottle to the US without shipping. Part of the retail markup in the US is the non trivial shipping and import taxes to get the beer there. You can't just hand wave that away like it doesn't exist.
Even if you happen to be in Belgium with free checked bags on a work paid trip (I've done this a few times), there's still an opportunity cost.
He's in the business of selling beer so no, no limits!
They're nothing alike.You do you, man.
Retail is retail in my book. The rest is ancillary. That’s like asking someone to pay for your time and gas when you had to travel and wait in line for something.
They're nothing alike.. If I live in the US, I pay for shipping (included in the retail price, or directly paid for). If I don't live in the US I don't give a **** what US retail prices cost, so it's a useless comparison.
The $20+ for 375 is just price gouging though, the cost to make these beers are less than $1/LFor years 3F was extremely underpriced, cantillon just a couple years ago selling seasonals at 7-9€ was also quite underpriced.
For those that love your free markets, supply, demand and market doing its dictating and all.
And they are both ridiculously cheaper than just about every American wild ale. I regularly see 375s in the US in the $20+ range.
The $20+ for 375 is just price gouging though, the cost to make these beers are less than $1/L
Source?
Sure, but things like labor and rent costs are usually more than the raw ingredients anyway.Malt price is around 400-500€/1000kg, raw wheat 300-400€/ton noble hops 6-8€/kg, taking cantillons recipe of 850kg malt + 450kg raw wheat, and 20 kg hops for 7500L wort you're looking at around 750€ for 7500L lambic wort in raw material
Malt price is around 400-500€/1000kg, raw wheat 300-400€/ton noble hops 6-8€/kg, taking cantillons recipe of 850kg malt + 450kg raw wheat, and 20 kg hops for 7500L wort you're looking at around 750€ for 7500L lambic wort in raw material
yes of course, those things especially rise up if it's a smaller production, and no matter what if you're selling unfruited sour beer for $20 a 375 you're making very huge profits, for a large brewery, like new belgium or boulevard, i very much doubt the profit margins on some of their sour beer isn't in the 1000% rangeSure, but things like labor and rent costs are usually more than the raw ingredients anyway.
yes of course, those things especially rise up if it's a smaller production, and no matter what if you're selling unfruited sour beer for $20 a 375 you're making very huge profits, for a large brewery, like new belgium or boulevard, i very much doubt the profit margins on some of their sour beer isn't in the 1000% range
I try not to get too riled up about brewers selling beer for prices people are clearly willing to pay. If people are willing to pay it, who cares? If they're not, the price will come down. It's not like sour beer is something anyone needs.yes of course, those things especially rise up if it's a smaller production, and no matter what if you're selling unfruited sour beer for $20 a 375 you're making very huge profits, for a large brewery, like new belgium or boulevard, i very much doubt the profit margins on some of their sour beer isn't in the 1000% range
I try not to get too riled up about brewers selling beer for prices people are clearly willing to pay. If people are willing to pay it, who cares? If they're not, the price will come down. It's not like sour beer is something anyone needs.
Well, right, if you think the beer isn't worth that price, then what difference does it make to not drink it? There's plenty more beer out there.As a non-rich person, I care! However, I do have rich friends (and customers at the bar I work at) who enjoy sharing, so it's okay. And it's true, Cascade and Ale Apothecary have lowered their prices recently.
this box review and finance debate thread is dumb.