Lambic Discussion Thread

[Quatz]

Or indeed the €12 Spontanbasil, would totally crush another 12 bottles at that price

Spontanbasil is still available in Belgian supermarkets at that price. Why would I buy anything that's worse than CR and twice the price when they're right next to each other on the shelf?

 

[64vdub]

Anyone open a new Tilquin quetsche yet?

When did it release? I had last year's and I thought it was tits. Puckering green plum, dry, and leaving me wanting more with every sip.

 

[tbub18]

When did it release? I had last year's and I thought it was tits. Puckering green plum, dry, and leaving me wanting more with every sip.

We got it last week here in NYC

 

[Ziggy]

48€ for bio, rdg, kriek 3 pack of 37.5 and 28€ CSG sold out already. Yeesh.

This is how i imagine people on BIAB waiting to immediately snatch up every cantillon release

 

[mustachio]

Has anybody tried different bottle dates of A&G side by side? Blind?

Also, I'm going to try this with 'regular' OG mixed in blind. My thought though is if its 3 glasses (AG 10/7 , AG 10/6, and OG '15) it might be easy to pick out the outlier (OG '15). So I was thinking it should be four glasses; AG 10/7 , AG 10/6, OG '15, and ??? What should the fourth glass be? I guess a different bottle date OG '15 would be the best candidate.

Thanks

 

[Cruize4Gueuze]

Has anybody tried different bottle dates of A&G side by side? Blind?

Also, I'm going to try this with 'regular' OG mixed in blind. My thought though is if its 3 glasses (AG 10/7 , AG 10/6, and OG '15) it might be easy to pick out the outlier (OG '15). So I was thinking it should be four glasses; AG 10/7 , AG 10/6, OG '15, and ??? What should the fourth glass be? I guess a different bottle date OG '15 would be the best candidate.

Thanks

the fourth bottle should be golden blend.

 

[SeaWatchman]

Has anybody tried different bottle dates of A&G side by side? Blind?

Have all of the 37,5cl and 75cl bottle dates been released at this point?

 

[mustachio]

Have all of the 37,5cl and 75cl bottle dates been released at this point?

I don't know. The ones I have so far are from Belgium distribution, waiting on bottles direct from 3F, and others from Spain.

I have 750 from 10/6, and 375 from 10/7 so far.

Seems like the 375ml 12/10 bottles might be noticeably different bottled two months later? Maybe not.

 

[mustachio]

the fourth bottle should be golden blend.

Why Golden Blend?

 

[Cruize4Gueuze]

Why Golden Blend?

Those are the 3 easier to get drie fonteinen. Plus I want to know what you think about GB next to the rest of them.

 

[mustachio]

Plus I want to know what you think about GB next to the rest of them.

But, I'm just this guy, you know.

 

[wuntrikpony]

So I know all of you were waiting with baited breath, but my lazy ass finally got around to drinking my parking lot speed aged Cuvée René.

Both bottles purchased at the same location, same bottling code. One left in my car in North Carolina(ball sweat capital of the world) for a week. Both chilled for a week and the brought up to a proper serving temp. Did the side by side blind, although there was a little giveaway when one of the corks shot out like a rocket only 30 seconds after I uncapped it.

They look identical, but both were way over carbonated, one more than the other. The speed aged bottle had a deeper earthiness to the aroma, while the regular bottle was more light citrus. Taste was identical, although hard to tell because both bottles were overcarbed.

So ya...no significant difference. They are just tasty...and now I am enjoying them with cheese.

tl;dr
Cuvée René and cheese are tasty

 

[koplamp]

So I know all of you were waiting with baited breath, but my lazy ass finally got around to drinking my parking lot speed aged Cuvée René.

Both bottles purchased at the same location, same bottling code. One left in my car in North Carolina(ball sweat capital of the world) for a week. Both chilled for a week and the brought up to a proper serving temp. Did the side by side blind, although there was a little giveaway when one of the corks shot out like a rocket only 30 seconds after I uncapped it.

They look identical, but both were way over carbonated, one more than the other. The speed aged bottle had a deeper earthiness to the aroma, while the regular bottle was more light citrus. Taste was identical, although hard to tell because both bottles were overcarbed.

So ya...no significant difference. They are just tasty...and now I am enjoying them with cheese.

tl;dr
Cuvée René and cheese are tasty

 

[ac24]

Poor Mr. Belding

 

[ac24]

So I know all of you were waiting with baited breath, but my lazy ass finally got around to drinking my parking lot speed aged Cuvée René.

Both bottles purchased at the same location, same bottling code. One left in my car in North Carolina(ball sweat capital of the world) for a week. Both chilled for a week and the brought up to a proper serving temp. Did the side by side blind, although there was a little giveaway when one of the corks shot out like a rocket only 30 seconds after I uncapped it.

They look identical, but both were way over carbonated, one more than the other. The speed aged bottle had a deeper earthiness to the aroma, while the regular bottle was more light citrus. Taste was identical, although hard to tell because both bottles were overcarbed.

So ya...no significant difference. They are just tasty...and now I am enjoying them with cheese.

tl;dr
Cuvée René and cheese are tasty

Should have left in the trunk for a least a month.

 

[sunnrider]

That **** isn´t going to tell until after a few years.....probably.

 

[Pneill3161]

That **** isn´t going to tell until after a few years.....probably.

Yeah about all he may have done was pasteurize it a little, which will just stop it from developing any further.

 

[wuntrikpony]

That **** isn´t going to tell until after a few years.....probably.

The point was to see if shipping lambic during summer affects it adversely or at all. We all know that bottles can leak or explode, but not so sure if they actually taste different from a relatively short exposure to heat and agitation. The heated bottle didn't leak, but it certainly was ready to burst and was more carbonated. Doubt that glass would have lasted a month in my car without shattering.

 

[CornAndBeer]

The point was to see if shipping lambic during summer affects it adversely or at all. We all know that bottles can leak or explode, but not so sure if they actually taste different from a relatively short exposure to heat and agitation. The heated bottle didn't leak, but it certainly was ready to burst and was more carbonated. Doubt that glass would have lasted a month in my car without shattering.

I believe they are saying it now should have been aged for a few years before drinking to see how this exposure would change how the beer develops

 

[wuntrikpony]

I believe they are saying it now should have been aged for a few years before drinking to see how this exposure would change how the beer develops

 

[stupac2]

I believe they are saying it now should have been aged for a few years before drinking to see how this exposure would change how the beer develops

That's not really what you're worried about with heat exposure. A few days at elevated temps shouldn't affect the long-term condition of the microbes much (though someone like duketheredeemer would know better than I), but it sure can produce off-flavors from high-activation-energy reactions, or stressing the microbes into throwing off bad compounds. I generally think that lambic's diversity is uniquely suited to protect against this, but it's interesting to see a real test.

 

[ac24]

Come on now, you and I both know you have nothing but time.

 

[tbub18]

Wonderful despite its youth

 

[CornAndBeer]

That's not really what you're worried about with heat exposure.

No disagreement there, just was tying to "translate" as I saw it

 

[SinH4]

so, at which one are you going to be enjoying this year's Zwanze Day on October 1?

For me, probably Erzbierschof, as always, although I am in Berlin at a conference until the 29th and might just stay there...

AUSTRALIA
- The Scratch Bar -- Brisbane

AUSTRIA
- Tribaun -- Innsbruck

BELGIUM
- Moeder Lambic Fontainas -- Brussels
- Moeder Lambic Saint-Gilles -- Brussels
- Mi-Orge Mi-Houblon – Arlon
- Rose Red -- Brugge

CANADA
- Dieu du Ciel -- Montréal, Québec
- Birreria Volo -- Toronto, Ontario
- The Drake – Victoria, British Columbia

DENMARK
- Himmeriget -- Copenhagen

FRANCE
- La Fine Mousse -- Paris
- La Capsule -- Lille

FINLAND
- Stadin Panimo Baari -- Helsinki

GERMANY
- Café Herman -- Berlin

GREAT BRITAIN
- Kernel Brewery – Bermondsey
- North Bar -- Leeds
- Six° North -- Aberdeen

ITALIE
- Ma Che Siete Venuti A Fà -- Rome
- The Dome -- Nembro
- LambicZoon-- Milano
- The Drunken Duck -- Quinto Vicentino
- Ristopub Margherita -- Quartu Sant’Elena
- Ottavonano -- Atripalda

JAPAN
- To be confirmed
- To be confirmed

NEDERLAND
- De Bierkoning -- Amsterdam

NEW-ZEALAND
- Garage Project – Wellington

NORWAY
- Nogne O -- Grimstad

SPAIN
- Masia Agullons -- Sant Joan de Mediona

SWEDEN
- Akkurat -- Stockholm

SWITZERLAND
- Erzbierschof -- Zurich

USA
- Anchorage Brewing Co. -- Anchorage, Alaska
- Armsby Abbey -- Worcester, Massachusetts
- Avenue Pub -- New Orleans, Louisiana
- Bagby Beer -- Oceanside, California
- Beachwood BBQ -- Seal Beach, California
- Crooked Stave Barrel Cellar -- Denver, Colorado
- De GardeBrewing -- Tillamook, Oregon
- Fool's Gold -- Manhattan, New York
- Green Bench Brewing Co. -- St-Petersburg, Florida
- Hill Farmstead Brewery -- Greensboro, Vermont
- Holy Grale -- Louisville, Kentucky
- Jester King Brewery -- Austin, Texas
- Jolly Pumpkin Artisan Ales -- Dexter, Michigan
- Mikkeller Bar -- San Fransisco, California
- Monk's Café -- Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
- Novare Res Bier Café -- Portland, Maine
- Playalinda Brewing Co. -- Titusville, Florida
- REAL a Gastropub -- Honolulu, Hawaii
- Russian River Brewing -- Santa Rosa, California
- Schera's -- Elkader, Iowa
- Side Project Cellar -- Maplewood, Missouri
- Slow Boat Tavern -- Seattle, Washington
- Spuyten Duyvil -- Brooklyn, New York
- The Sovereign -- Washington D.C.
- Thin Man Brewery – Buffalo, New-York
- Trillium Brewing Co. -- Canton, Massachusetts
- West Lakeview Liquors -- Chicago, Illinois
- 1 more place to be confirmed

 

[dirtinabottle]

Buffalo NY here!

 

[wyatt1]

New Orleans.

 

[2plums4one]

If everything plays out well, side project or JK. If not, guess I'll have to go to holy grale again ..."pour" me

 

[Cruize4Gueuze]

Debating between st. petersburg, louisville, and new orleans. They are all 6 hours from me, haha

 

[tbub18]

Spuyten in Brooklyn--usual spot in the garden if the weather is nice