Lambic Discussion Thread

[SeaWatchman]

No, those people are just wrong.

K.

 

[LukeAleTime]

This has already shown up on some of the Facebook lambic groups but is worth repeating here:

http://mybeercellar.com/?itm=35946



Hard to know where to even start with this shitlord level omega content.

Unblended gueuze? Come, if you are expecting peeps to drop bills on rare lambics at least get the names right.

Also, this is the kind of **** that stops brewers doing things like that.

 

[tosh1]

This has already shown up on some of the Facebook lambic groups but is worth repeating here:

http://mybeercellar.com/?itm=35946



Hard to know where to even start with this shitlord level omega content.

IN. Name your price

 

[SeaWatchman]

Unblended gueuze

www.lambic.info question mark

 

[mrk_d]

Has anyone seen a cork look like this before, and/or would you worry about it for long term storage?

 

[Padraig]

2013 (top)- funky.

2015 (bottom)- fruity.

 

[ridglens]

No **** Sherlock

I think this gem is worth highlighting



Thanks for bringing that back Stu

 

[andrewdrinks]

2013 (top)- funky.

2015 (bottom)- fruity.

I knew it!

 

[jbeezification1]

Has anyone seen a cork look like this before, and/or would you worry about it for long term storage?

Push it in with your thumb and tighten the cage. It'll be aight.

 

[kscaldef]

Has anyone seen a cork look like this before, and/or would you worry about it for long term storage?

What's the recent history of this bottle? From the looks of it, the cage must have been slightly loose and something caused an increase in pressure to push the cork out to meet it. You've caught it shortly after this happened, over time that section of cork will expand to match the rest.

I wouldn't be concerned about it, unless the pressure increase was caused by it getting heated enough to damage the beer.

 

[thefleshlight]

2013 (top)- funky.

2015 (bottom)- fruity.

Just had the 2015 on Friday. Thought it was alright; was hoping for more fruityness.

 

[SeaWatchman]

Potentially big news for Lindemans Oude Kriek Cuvée René fans in the U.S! The TTB approved an import label just two weeks ago! No official announcement yet from MdV though.

 

[Rowingbrewer1]

Potentially big news for Lindemans Oude Kriek Cuvée René fans in the U.S! The TTB approved an import label just two weeks ago! No official announcement yet from MdV though.

Finally, that time I emailed them months ago made it seem like it was right around the corner. and it will likely be many moons before we see them on the shelf

 

[SeaWatchman]

Finally, that time I emailed them months ago made it seem like it was right around the corner. and it will likely be many moons before we see them on the shelf

Yeah, there are plenty of cases where labels get approved and then are never used at all. Hopefully this isn't one of them.

 

[mrk_d]

Push it in with your thumb and tighten the cage. It'll be aight.

Srs? (This is the internet after all and I have never heard of anyone doing this, but it makes sense intuitively).

What's the recent history of this bottle? From the looks of it, the cage must have been slightly loose and something caused an increase in pressure to push the cork out to meet it. You've caught it shortly after this happened, over time that section of cork will expand to match the rest.

I wouldn't be concerned about it, unless the pressure increase was caused by it getting heated enough to damage the beer.

That all sounds reasonable - it was shipped fairly recently, which would explain the pressure increase. Hopefully it didn't cook too much while being shipped.

 

[The Red Viper]

I agree with all the positive reviews of the 3F Geuze bottlings form last October, but has anyone had any of the 2015 bottlings yet who can say if they're on the same level?

 

[tosh1]

I think this gem is worth highlighting



Thanks for bringing that back Stu

Always needs the following David Bowie GIF IMO

 

[Padraig]

Just had the 2015 on Friday. Thought it was alright; was hoping for more fruityness.

Well compared to the '13 it was very fruity. Most people seemed to prefer the older vintage as there was a fair bit going on.

 

[Fahmie25]

Just got a call from JFK customs saying I have to fill out paperwork for my package to get clearance from the FDA before it can be released from customs

does anyone know what this process entails/how long it takes?

In case anyone was curious, it looks like i finally have this resolved. I ended up having to pay $140 in duties, but basically I had to fill out a "prior notice" form with the FDA telling them alcohol was coming into the country, they had to make sure the form cleared/everything was okay (needed a whole bunch of info...ie the manufacturers of the bottles, what types of bottles, etc...), and I just had to send in a payment for final clearance. really odd, and I didn't know that all I had to do was pay for it to be okay/fill out a form, but end of the day I'm happy im getting my boxes (albeit for quite a bit more than I had initially thought). Took about a month of back and forth but it **looks** like it's going to end up getting delivered soon.

 

[Rowingbrewer1]

In case anyone was curious, it looks like i finally have this resolved. I ended up having to pay $140 in duties, but basically I had to fill out a "prior notice" form with the FDA telling them alcohol was coming into the country, they had to make sure the form cleared/everything was okay (needed a whole bunch of info...ie the manufacturers of the bottles, what types of bottles, etc...), and I just had to send in a payment for final clearance. really odd, and I didn't know that all I had to do was pay for it to be okay/fill out a form, but end of the day I'm happy im getting my boxes (albeit for quite a bit more than I had initially thought). Took about a month of back and forth but it **looks** like it's going to end up getting delivered soon.

good to hear you are getting your beer but that's gonna add about $10 per bottle. Ouch!

 

[thefleshlight]

Well compared to the '13 it was very fruity. Most people seemed to prefer the older vintage as there was a fair bit going on.

Ya, I have five more bottles; probably won't touch one for 18+ months.

 

[Fahmie25]

good to hear you are getting your beer but that's gonna add about $10 per bottle. Ouch!

yeah obviously not ideal, but better than potentially having to get it reshipped/seized or anything along those lines that customs might do with it...

 

[thefleshlight]

yeah obviously not ideal, but better than potentially having to get it reshipped/seized or anything along those lines that customs might do with it...

Where did you get this box from? A store or a trader/random internet person? I think I will avoid whoever is doing this in the future. Hope what you got was some high dollar **** and not an assortment of random turds.

 

[Fahmie25]

Where did you get this box from? A store or a trader/random internet person? I think I will avoid whoever is doing this in the future. Hope what you got was some high dollar **** and not an assortment of random turds.

random internet person/guy I know over there who sends me boxes from time to time. yeah, there were 2 loon mags in there, so I really wanted to get the box as i have an obsession with those things...

 

[ASUBeer]

I agree with all the positive reviews of the 3F Geuze bottlings form last October, but has anyone had any of the 2015 bottlings yet who can say if they're on the same level?

I'm 1 drunk night away from a large 2015 3F OG order on Etre.

But no other info I can share at this time.

 

[BeerMoto1]

I'm 1 drunk night away from a large 2015 3F OG order on Etre.

 

[ExPimp]

Potentially big news for Lindemans Oude Kriek Cuvée René fans in the U.S! The TTB approved an import label just two weeks ago! No official announcement yet from MdV though.

So excite!!! I remember finding 750s of this in Belgian grocery stores a couple of years ago for €3 and was blown away by how tasty they were. We actually get Lindemans in Texas, so I would buy this by the case if possible.

 

[thefleshlight]

So excite!!! I remember finding 750s of this in Belgian grocery stores a couple of years ago for €3 and was blown away by how tasty they were. We actually get Lindemans in Texas, so I would buy this by the case if possible.

cyde

 

[jedwards]

I'll post a full set of notes in this thread when I'm not on the phone. The 50N4E wasn't even close -- batch 1 still has that great richness and the funk is better than ever. Batch 2 still thin & cider-y in comparison.

Ok, very brief tasting notes for the Cantillon thing. Bear in mind that I am in general hugely biased towards older lambic even at the expense of fruit flavor.

St. Lamvinus (2009, 2011, and 2014): 2014 ended up the winner here, just due to presence of fruit flavor. I've been a fan of older bottles in the past but these just weren't there. Would have liked to see an '08 or '05 in this lineup as I've always been impressed by those bottlings.
Lou Pepe Gueuze (2006, 2009, and 2011 stickers): 2006 was the clear winner here, with 2009 in second. Great funk, very sour but not too bright. Young LPG just doesn't have the character I want from an unfruited lambic.
Lou Pepe Framboise (2003, 2010, 2011 stickers): 2003 was my winner. Thought it had more fruit flavor than either of the newer bottlings with great aged lambic character to match. I think there might be something about these earlier bottlings... I've had the same experience with the 2004 (sticker) bottle.
Lou Pepe Kriek (2007 and 2011 stickers): 2007 was my favorite here as well, perhaps a bit less fruit but terrific earthy sourness and some of that spice/almond flavor that comes along with great cherry lambics. A favorite of the evening for me.
Classic Gueuze (1997, 2009, 2010, 2013, 2015): I'd rank these exactly as I expected, though noting that the 2009 was much closer to the '97 than I thought it would be. The oldest bottle was great, still a remarkable amount of carbonation, great balance between bright sourness and mustiness. I found 2015 almost undrinkably young.
Rose de Gambrinus (2006, 2011, 2014): 2014 was great, excellent color and huge fruit flavor. 2011 was lifeless, pale, and not very good. I enjoyed 2006 but more for the age than any fruit flavor -- plenty on the nose, but very little in the palate and perhaps slightly metallic.
50N4E (2007 and 2012): As above, batch 1 is still one of my favorite Cantillon beers, if only for that perception of richness without sweetness. Not a fan of 2012.
Fou'Foune (2007, 2011, 2014): Hard to say here, as the 2014 was heavily corked (I'm pretty TCA-insensitive and it was intense even for me). 2011 was in a sad place, diminished fruit but not yet making up for it. I really enjoyed the 2007 though it had that intense sourness that old Fou tends to get, which didn't seem to be popular.
Iris (2006 label/2008 cork, 2011 cork, 2014 cork): My love for old Iris knows no bounds. Vintage 2006 by a mile and I wish it were ten years older.
Vigneronne (2009 and 2012): 2009 was great, nice marriage of vinous and tart lambic flavors. Something seemed off about the 2012 -- plastic on the nose and palate.
Kriek (2005, 2013, 2014): 2005 was very sour, but somehow still quite balanced. Light spice note, extremely drinkable. 2005 remains kind of a magic year for Cantillon, I think. '13 and '14 quite close with the edge going to the '14 for a little added fruit.
Aigre de Kriek (2010): Batch of kriek that went acetic and was sold as vinegar. Very vinegar-y, but still some beer flavor. Not as sour as some of the more sour Cantillon batches (04 Fou, 07 Kriek).
Mamouche (2010 and 2012): I know the cool thing is to come back around to liking Mamouche these days, but I'm just not into it. Decanted both into fancy Cantillon pitchers for half an hour and still had a lot of vegetable/pickle for me. Not gonna pick a winner.
Broucsella (2009 and 2014): 2009 by a lot -- fresh Broucsella just isn't where it should be. The 2009 could go for a lot longer, but it's definitely drinkable at this point.
Saint-Gilloise (2014): Fresh, hoppy, and delicious.

 

[Padraig]

Bad shaarbeekse harvest this year according to the guy who supplies Cantillon for LPK.

http://www.editiepajot.com/regios/10/articles/44177