FIB War Room

[mdomask]

The Brass Tap - Orland Park

• Year Founded: 2014
• Bottles/Cans: 130
• Draft: 60 <---------- NO.

I will die on this ******* hill: any bar that has more than 20 taps is not a good beer bar; it's just a bar with a lot of beer. If you can't curate 15-20 lines- or less!- with a variety of awesome beers to appeal to every customer, you are disqualified from being praised as knowing your ****.

Fans of The Brass Tap Orland Park tell General Manager Kerri Gatz that a night at The Brass Tap is the “ultimate night out,” offering that the four-year-old beer-centric restaurant has a lot to offer. This beer bar has an impressive list of draft beers, like Pollyanna, Maplewood and Noon Whistle, to name a few. Add a great food menu and plenty of events and that’s how you get named a Great American Beer Bar.

FFS that's some awful writing.

And agreed on large numbers of tap lines being a negative. I can't imagine keeping all those kegs fresh, lines clean, and having it all be interesting. I'm also of the highly curated school of thought though...

 

[beeraficionado]

**** you, it's all mine.

You know a beer is good when you're at a fancy beer bar in NYC, you look through their long "rare beer list" with options from around the world, then you choose Eek! A beer you bought 6 bottles of, brewed 2 miles from your apartment. That was me in September.

 

[Tooch4321]

You know a beer is good when you're at a fancy beer bar in NYC, you look through their long "rare beer list" with options from around the world, then you choose Eek! A beer you bought 6 bottles of, brewed 2 miles from your apartment. That was me in September.

It was also the first beer from the vintage cooler that we ran out of and it seemed like it took less than a month. Definitely has become a cult classic in the beer community...

 

[furley]

Nah black Camaro IROC-Z with gold trim. Or even better, a black Pontiac Firebird with the gold ******* bird on the hood.

fair point is fair

 

[vav1]

Maryland. There are dual bills going through the state senate right now, one that majorly benefits big in-state breweries like Guinness and Flying Dog and one that would benefit independents. There have been rallies at the capitol over it.

Yeah these two chucklefucks should be raked over the coals for being so far in bed with a large manufacturer they'd screw over the businesses they *JUST* bolstered.

has anyone tasted the dry-hopped 312 yet or do we not even need to do that anymore to declare this the worst beer ever made?

I may run over to the brewery to try it today cuz i'm kinda curious.

Also i haven't gotten anyone to confirm what the hop is, but if i had to guess, i'd say they're not putting it in the marketing because it's a no-win situation. I'm sure if they released the hop it'd be seen as pandering to the trends if it's trendy one, or boring if they used a "less cool" one. So what the **** does it matter, ya know?

The Brass Tap - Orland Park

• Year Founded: 2014
• Bottles/Cans: 130
• Draft: 60 <---------- NO.

I will die on this ******* hill: any bar that has more than 20 taps is not a good beer bar; it's just a bar with a lot of beer. If you can't curate 15-20 lines- or less!- with a variety of awesome beers to appeal to every customer, you are disqualified from being praised as knowing your ****.

lymi

 

[vav1]

It's dry hopped with Saaz.

 

[trickytunadicky]

It's dry hopped with Saaz.

Who dry hops with saaz?

 

[vav1]

Who dry hops with saaz?

Also i haven't gotten anyone to confirm what the hop is, but if i had to guess, i'd say they're not putting it in the marketing because it's a no-win situation. I'm sure if they released the hop it'd be seen as pandering to the trends if it's trendy one, or boring if they used a "less cool" one. So what the **** does it matter, ya know?

 

[vav1]

Also, Firestone i think with Pivo.

It's also worth mentioning that Taras Boulba is all Hallertauer, even though it doesnt smell or taste like it. Good yeast management yo.

 

[ChaQuiseman]

Who dry hops with saaz?

I've anecdotally heard about people dry hopping Pilsner Urquell clones with saaz on various homebrew forums throughout the years, but I'd argue that it's wholly unnecessary.

That said, if you're going to advertise "dry hopped" on your can, at least make it a hop variety known for their aromatics. This is the same ****-tier marketing as "triple hops brewed."

 

[middlebrow]

is the dry-hopped the first 312 to be brewed in chicago in 5 years?

 

[vav1]

I've anecdotally heard about people dry hopping Pilsner Urquell clones with saaz on various homebrew forums throughout the years, but I'd argue that it's wholly unnecessary.

That said, if you're going to advertise "dry hopped" on your can, at least make it a hop variety known for their aromatics. This is the same ****-tier marketing as "triple hops brewed."

Wait what. Are actually suggesting that Saaz, one of the noble hops, is somehow not known for its aromatics?

 

[trickytunadicky]

I mean it’s not a wrong answer unless it’s bad. I don’t necessarily want a citra dry hopped wheat beer. Until Bell’s actually sent us that janky Oberon I prefer to forget, I drank a fair amount of 312 during the brief pull out... but I basically called it sad Oberon. And now I drink a whole lot of other stuff. A basic German hop may be the right call. I was just asking who else does it.

 

[Mugatu]

Why don’t they just use those South African hops from SAB Miller? When are we going to see those 45,000+ lbs of hops get used in a beer?

 

[Hopping Tiger]

Surely the target crowd for 312 doesn't really care what hop it is

 

[lb304854]

Why don’t they just use those South African hops from SAB Miller? When are we going to see those 45,000+ lbs of hops get used in a beer?

When you go to a TB sponsored bar crawl in NYC this past weekend, apparently.

 

[ChaQuiseman]

Wait what. Are actually suggesting that Saaz, one of the noble hops, is somehow not known for its aromatics?

Not aromatic in the sense that you'd advertise "drop hopped" when using them. I'd argue that the term "dry hopped" has evolved to a point where the expectation is tropical/citrusy aromatics.

However, I'd agree that my wording was off. It would have been more appropriate had I said something like: "That said, if you're going to advertise "dry hopped" on your can, at least make it a hop variety that won't instantly disappoint those in your consumer base will expect this to smell like an IPA."

 

[Thorpe]

Also, Firestone i think with Pivo.

It's also worth mentioning that Taras Boulba is all Hallertauer, even though it doesnt smell or taste like it. Good yeast management yo.

Wow, I always thought it had at least some Saaz.

 

[furley]

the only Saz that matters

https://sazs.com/statehouserestaurant/

beerandraiderfan

 

[furley]

I may run over to the brewery to try it today cuz i'm kinda curious.

Also i haven't gotten anyone to confirm what the hop is, but if i had to guess, i'd say they're not putting it in the marketing because it's a no-win situation. I'm sure if they released the hop it'd be seen as pandering to the trends if it's trendy one, or boring if they used a "less cool" one. So what the **** does it matter, ya know?

:goodposting:

 

[vav1]

Not aromatic in the sense that you'd advertise "drop hopped" when using them. I'd argue that the term "dry hopped" has evolved to a point where the expectation is tropical/citrusy aromatics.

However, I'd agree that my wording was off. It would have been more appropriate had I said something like: "That said, if you're going to advertise "dry hopped" on your can, at least make it a hop variety that won't instantly disappoint those in your consumer base will expect this to smell like an IPA."

I totally disagree here. They're not advertising it as an IPA, and dry-hopped is not mutually exclusive with the IPA style.

I also don't think Saaz is off-putting to their consumer base either, and i say that fully well knowing that no one in this thread buys 312.

 

[middlebrow]

I totally disagree here. They're not advertising it as an IPA, and dry-hopped is not mutually exclusive with the IPA style.

I also don't think Saaz is off-putting to their consumer base either, and i say that fully well knowing that no one in this thread buys 312.

What does dry-hopped mean to the average consumer? I’d imagine 80% expect a citrus hoppy flavor, not nice classic aromatics. Clearly with the map, name, and word hopped this is targeting the Chicago masses, just hope the masses like classic aromatics. Id buy some just to have a 312 taste mildly like it did 5 years ago. I guess it will work on the same folks whose dad’s loved it when old style returned to ‘krausening.’

 

[pdurrrr]

Id buy some just to have a 312 taste mildly like it did 5 years ago.

Oh man. So much this. I miss that beer

 

[vav1]

I reached out to Goose for a sample so i should have a can in my hand in like 10 minutes, i'll report back then

 

[vav1]

Ok drinking a sample now, bottled Feb. 6th.

Guess what? It's ******* great. It tastes like Saaz hops, that sorta spicy-minty-black tea kinda thing that Saaz imparts.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

 

[DiscountMegaMall4ever]

Ok drinking a sample now, bottled Feb. 6th.

Guess what? It's ******* great.

Was this a private screening or did one of the reps have one with you?

 

[vav1]

Was this a private screening or did one of the reps have one with you?

I drank it in the office with my own drugs thank you very much.

 

[trickytunadicky]

I love everything about this.... and I just realized it's been so long since I had 312 I didn't know it changed. When Bell's returned to the market with Oberon I have not looked back. #312isnotmywheatbeer

 

[PHBoiler]

Had no clue Burial was coming here. Just saw Beer Temple post it. That skillet donut is a really nice and easy drinking coffee stout. Honestly I have no idea what else they make.

 

[vav1]

Had no clue Burial was coming here. Just saw Beer Temple post it. That skillet donut is a really nice and easy drinking coffee stout. Honestly I have no idea what else they make.

They're not fully to my knowledge. They sent beers for Uppers & Downers (and satellite events, which if you'd follow by Instagram you'd know about )

The Separation of Light & Darkness was amazing.