ojaason
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I brew a lot of west coast ipa and pale ales. I typically use chico yeast, but getting bored. What's everyone's favorite west coast ipa yeast?
IMHO, Imperial A24 is the best ester producing beer for hoppy styles. Complements the hops perfectly with peach and citrus notes but does not overpower the hops themselves. I under pitch and drive the fermentation into the mid 70s (74-76) and it works great. Not a crazy high attenuator so mashing lower or some sugar will def help if your looking for a drier west coast ipa
I'll keep an eye out for this one1217 is one of my favorite yeasts I've used in 20 years of homebrewing, it just happens to be a Private collection release this Spring
https://wyeastlab.com/private-collection
US05 is a Chico strain and ferments really clean for me. San Diego has a really clean fermentation too in my experience, so it really just depends if you want esters or if you don’tI've used a24 once before. It made for a great combination with fruity hops. I was going to try pacman or san Diego super yeast. Does anyone have experience with these? My last ipa was fermented with us05 and has citrusy/ fruity esters that are very distracting to me.
I've used a24 once before. It made for a great combination with fruity hops. I was going to try pacman or san Diego super yeast. Does anyone have experience with these? My last ipa was fermented with us05 and has citrusy/ fruity esters that are very distracting to me.
Used to always buy liquid yeast and many times do starters my last 12 brews or so have all been IPA's with Fermentos S05 right out of the dry pack and I would say my beers are just as good or probably even better than they were before.US05 is a Chico strain and ferments really clean for me. San Diego has a really clean fermentation too in my experience, so it really just depends if you want esters or if you don’t
What do you like about this one and how does it compare to W34/70? I'm trying to settle on a one-and-done lager yeast and I'm finding it very hard to get away from W34/70, and I'm not a dry yeast guy. It ferments fast, tastes clean, attenuates well, and drops clear quick. I'd previously really enjoyed WY2308, which shared all the same qualities but I found it left the beers a bit too sweet. Great yeast otherwise.Imperial L17 Harvest. Brew a lot of lagers and it's my go to for most of them.
What do you like about this one and how does it compare to W34/70? I'm trying to settle on a one-and-done lager yeast and I'm finding it very hard to get away from W34/70, and I'm not a dry yeast guy. It ferments fast, tastes clean, attenuates well, and drops clear quick. I'd previously really enjoyed WY2308, which shared all the same qualities but I found it left the beers a bit too sweet. Great yeast otherwise.
Interesting. Maybe I'll give it a shot! How's the attenuation? I see The figures vary between Imperial (70-74), Whitelabs (68-72) and Wyeast (72-74). I do like my lagers crisp and like I mentioned 2308 (70-74) was on the maltier side for me. Though I know you can't really hand your hat on published attenuation numbers.Actually it's a lot like 34/70, the only real main difference is 34/70 is the Weihenstephan brewery strain and Harvest is Augustiner's....so they both used by two great German breweries for a long time. You probably already know this, but Wyeast 2124 Bohemian Lager and White Labs 830 German Lager are both the same strain as 34/70 and I have used both of those liquid yeasts when Harvest was not available with great success.
Just brewed a Helles Export (Dortmunder) this weekend with Harvest and in less than 12 hours already had a krausen going.
Interesting. Maybe I'll give it a shot! How's the attenuation? I see The figures vary between Imperial (70-74), Whitelabs (68-72) and Wyeast (72-74). I do like my lagers crisp and like I mentioned 2308 (70-74) was on the maltier side for me. Though I know you can't really hand your hat on published attenuation numbers.
Every time I use BRY 97 my beers come out with a greater perceived bitterness and I can’t figure out why. That’s literally the only difference so I just don’t know. Have you experienced that by any chance,I like BRY-97 for ~75% (or more) of my beers. It’s clean so there’s not much expression which allows the hop and malt character to shine. Just like I like it. I guess you’d say it’s become my house strain though I don’t harvest — I use one trip yeast for most every brew. I use it for both Ales and “Lagers”.
Oh wow that is excellent. I'll try it for my next lager brew spree!I've averaged around 76-77 attenuation. Had a few as low as 72% and a couple in low 80's.
I'm currently using Harvest for the 1st time. Fermenting a Pilsner at 52. Have you used it up to 60 before? Any difference from fermenting in the low 50s? I've used 34/70 a few times, and even though everyone raves about it, it leaves my beer too sweet. I mash low (148F), do a D rest, but I still get residual sweetness even when it ferments down to 1.008. Weird...Don't get me wrong, 34/70 is a great yeast. Imperial Global is the same strain as 34/70. I use liquid yeast due to building yeast starters to get proper pitch counts etc, my local shop never has Global, so I grab Harvest when they do. First thing I like is that the compared to other liquid yeasts, it's 200 million cells per package, so don't need to make starters as big as when using White Labs or Wyeast. Harvest is also very clean, drops clears quickly, is a low sulfur producer. Can be used for any lager style, and can can be used for doing lagers in the 60's is you don't have fermentation temp control.
Actually it's a lot like 34/70, the only real main difference is 34/70 is the Weihenstephan brewery strain and Harvest is Augustiner's....so they both used by two great German breweries for a long time. You probably already know this, but Wyeast 2124 Bohemian Lager and White Labs 830 German Lager are both the same strain as 34/70 and I have used both of those liquid yeasts when Harvest was not available with great success.
Just brewed a Helles Export (Dortmunder) this weekend with Harvest and in less than 12 hours already had a krausen going.
I'm currently using Harvest for the 1st time. Fermenting a Pilsner at 52. Have you used it up to 60 before? Any difference from fermenting in the low 50s? I've used 34/70 a few times, and even though everyone raves about it, it leaves my beer too sweet. I mash low (148F), do a D rest, but I still get residual sweetness even when it ferments down to 1.008. Weird...
No worries. Fermented at 52, raised to 65 for d rest after about a week. Gonna cold crash soon. Fingers crossed.Sorry be off line for awhile....I used Harvest at 60 once. It was still fairly clean, though I prefer using it at cooler temps.
Are there reasons you don't use S33 or Nottingham?Needless to say, I'm a dry yeast guy.
Are there reasons you don't use S33 or Nottingham?
Since I seem to to be on the sam page on this, do you have thoughts about Munton's? Also, is part of you preference for S04 its flocculatio?I'll use S33, but I don't like Nottingham. It is to attenuative and neutral for English styles.
there are many choices out there, so why take another chance. I may be wrong, but I think Munton's is the same as S33 (Edme strain), but I've never had a problem with S33
Edme became S33, and it was at first identified as such. It is no longer marketed that way for reasons that are beyond my pay grade. I still use it often. My last supply order for six brews, included six packets of Edme.Back in the 1990s I used Edme all the time. What happened to Edme?
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