El Cedro Jester King Clone?

[Kdubbs]

@Thisisbeer how did you go about adding Brett for bottle conditioning? Did you add to secondary to help ferment out or did you just add it to the bottles?

 

[thisisbeer]

Add it to the bottles. I would recommend using rhe champagne bottles for this. The 3711 it's supposed to get it down to 1.004 or so. Do there shouldn't be to much to worry about.

 

[Kdubbs]

And what was your cell count per ml or how much did you add?

 

[thisisbeer]

I don't want to lie so let me check my notes when I get home.

 

[thisisbeer]

I added 18 drops per 22 ounce bottle. But after talking to some friends I would just pour a vial of it in the bottling bucket and make sure its mixed well.

 

[gometz]

How long did you condition it in the bottle for? Was there a noticeable brett flavor?

 

[thisisbeer]

Not at first. After the normal 3 weeks its carbed up and taste like a great ipa. Which is as far as I have gotten with this recipe. I'm still waiting for some bottles to age out longer. But I have had some El Cedro that was conditioned for a few months. You eventually start getting some flavors to come through. Just takes a while.

 

[gometz]

Hey thisisbeer, mind giving my idea a look?
https://www.homebrewtalk.com/f12/saison-brett-recipe-critique-449488/
I am weird and rarely copy recipes, so I came up with something between El Cedro and Saison Brett. Claussenii sounded tastier than the other brett strains which is why I chose it.

 

[thisisbeer]

Attached is a recipe I got from another poster that I think he got directly from Jester King.

Enjoy!

I forgot to say something about this. The guy sent me this recipe on my initial search to. They may have made this when they couldn't source Citra hops. I'm not sure, but the recipe I posted taste spot on to the original El Cedro i'm used to. I was assured that they use big doses of Citra in this recipe.

 

[Kdubbs]

I dry hopped with Citra and big flameout addition as well. It goes great with the Spanish Cedar. I may try the combo again for a standard IPA. But pretty cool to see that recipe sheet.

 

[thisisbeer]

I really enjoy this beer. I love what the Spanish cedar does in this beer. Also it goes pretty good in a rauchbier to.

 

[Kdubbs]

In rauchbier? I am sold on that. I have yet to pop any bottles of the El Cedro, I think I bottled last week, but tasted great at bottling.

 

[thisisbeer]

Let me know how it turns out. I love feedback.

 

[Kdubbs]

How many batches can you get out of the cedar spirals? I just went with some thin spanish cedar from that I picked up from my local cigar shop. Seems like most of the flavor has been striped in one batch.

 

[thisisbeer]

Its pretty strong after a couple weeks of aging. I am going to try and use the cedar spiral I just used. I think you can get two uses.

 

[gometz]

FYI: Defalco's in Houston now carries Spanish Cedar spirals, saw them today and debated grabbing some (didn't wasn't sure when to use them). They are $17.99/pair

 

[thisisbeer]

They are from the barrel mill as well. I was in there the day the received them! I don't know why I didn't post that on here. They will also have a biere de garde coming up on tap that they aged with the cedar spirals. I think its carbonating as we speak if I remember right.

I forgot we are both from Pearland.

 

[gometz]

Actually that Biere de Garde is on tap now! That's how I found out about it, I tried the regular and then saw the tap that said "cedar" and asked about it. Definitely a unique taste, works well with the Biere de Garde.

Also funny because I had Adelbert's Scratchin Hippo last night (bdg style bottled with brett), and I needed something with a normal BdG flavor because that was just a brett bomb (liked it, but didn't taste like a BdG).

EDIT: btw, if you need any 3711 I harvested my yeast cake from the saison I made and have WAY too much. I need to split the 3 jars I harvested because just pitching those without a starter would likely be over pitching.

 

[thisisbeer]

I need to get by there and try it. I am looking forward to trying cedar in a few more styles. The guys at Defalcos had a big hand in helping me get this recipe right. When I found the source for the cedar they wanted to try out some styles with it to. Currently I have a Rauchbier lagering with some cedar now.

 

[gometz]

Not to keep flooding this thread, but I found el cedro and many other jester king beers at a little store in lake Jackson

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[thisisbeer]

Name?

 

[gometz]

Food King

They had El Cedro, Wytchmaker, Das Wunderkind, Petit Prince, Noble King, and Mad Meg (I think that was all). I haven't seen some of those in about 3 months. I bought 2 El Cedro, 2 Das Wunderkind and a Wytchmaker, the most recent batch being from July 2013, so they are well aged already (Das Wunderkind is April 2013 in fact).
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[thisisbeer]

I may head there today! Seeing as there shipping less out of Austin it would be helpful to have a thread about sightings. At least for me. Maybe in the texas sub-forum?

 

[gometz]

May not be a bad idea. Luckily I drive by there every day so I plan on stopping by there regularly, might end up drying up their stock (my haul cost me almost $90 yesterday, so I am going to give it a rest for this week). I get the feeling that once they are sold out there won't be anything new coming in a while (even Austin is drying up), so get it while you can!

I plan on buying another 2-3 El Cedros and Wytchmakers. The Wytchmaker I drank last night had a much stronger brett flavor than I remember, likely because it was from June and therefore aged longer than the regular bottles I used to find (I can't find a place that tells you how many batches have been made and when released).

 

[thisisbeer]

Anybody tried Brewing this up yet?