Sweet Stout Deception Cream Stout

[stever1000]

After a week i am at 1.022, how much could this drop in the next week? I used wyeast Irish ale yeast cake from my previous stout

Thanks

 

[ratten46]

Brewed on Dec 22, followed extract recipe, used safale US-05. Primary was 2 weeks, kegged on day 15. OG was 1.072, FG was 1.018. Feb 10 was the first time it didn't taste too green. Carbed and chilled. Today, on Feb 17, after nearly 60 days, it's awesome!!! This recipe will get a permanent slot in my rotation. I think it still needs a little something, but a little experimenting (or time) will perhaps tune it. Thank you!!

 

[christyle]

So this is tasting like it may be my best yet, maybe just because I love a good roasty sweet stout though. I will be bottling this tonight, splitting it with half on some cold pressed coffee.

My question for those bottling, is how much sugar did you use? I made a Chocolate PB stout that is as close to bottle bombs as I've ever had, and it makes it nearly undrinkable waiting for the endless foam to die off. I really don't want to over carb this, and am unsure how the style reacts to bottling sugar. I used the tasty brew calculator and its telling me 3.7oz of priming sugar?

 

[bolus14]

I used 3oz of table sugar when I made this, and I thought it was carbed just a tad more than I wanted. Some liked it how it was but I thought going with 2.7 or 2.8 would've made it just a little bit more silky. 3.7oz I think you'll find to be too much, but then again everybody's liking is different.

 

[christyle]

I've only ever used the 5oz the kits include, I guess I need to work out my carb issues. Most have been overcarbed it seems.... I'll drop it down to like 3.5 or so.

 

[bolus14]

Don't use the 5 oz that cones with the kit, every style is different.
I like this calculator but there are many more if you google for them
http://www.homebrewdad.com/priming_sugar_calculator.php

 

[stever1000]

I used 3oz of table sugar when I made this, and I thought it was carbed just a tad more than I wanted. Some liked it how it was but I thought going with 2.7 or 2.8 would've made it just a little bit more silky. 3.7oz I think you'll find to be too much, but then again everybody's liking is different.

Great info - I just checked
http://www.homebrewdad.com/priming_sugar_calculator.php

And 2.8oz of sucrose (table sugar) is the same as 3.05oz dextrose (corn sugar) so I will use your suggestion just like the 2 volumes the author mentioned on page 1.

Bottling today!

 

[christyle]

I think I used about 3.25 oz corn sugar and so far, after a little over a week, there was not much in the way of carbonation. I'll be trying another one this weekend, after a little more than 2 weeks, and see how it goes. Even uncarbonated, I could tell this is going to be a good one!

 

[bolus14]

What's the ambient temp where the bottles are at? I usually have a good amount of carbonation within a week, mine get put in a room that's low to mid 70's to carb then moved to 55-60 degree closet.

 

[christyle]

Ive had them in the kitchen of my house, where it varies from 60-75 or so throughout the day right now. I don't have any rooms warmer than that.

 

[stever1000]

I tried one after 8 days in the bottle and it is great! Definitely taste the roastiness...can't wait for the other flavours to develop!

 

[christyle]

I popped one of mine yesterday from my Half coffee batch, loved it. Carbonation is coming along, still not quite what I hoped. I should have used better coffee than the old dry Maxwell junk I had lying around. Just figured id try it out. I like the way the coffee comes through and keeps juuuust enough sweetness. Really digging it. I'll have to try another of the standard batch soon.

Thanks for the great recipe! One of my best brews!

 

[wtaylor3]

Was talking about bottling one of two beers I have in better bottles yesterday with a fellow homebrewer and realized that my batch of deception has been in the fermenter for exactly 2 mths. I'd say its done, still not sure if this is the one I'm going to bottle today however. Some doubts have arisen about my bottle cleaning process and I love cream/milk stouts so if a batch gets ruined I don't want this one to be it.

 

[TrustyOlJohnson]

Was talking about bottling one of two beers I have in better bottles yesterday with a fellow homebrewer and realized that my batch of deception has been in the fermenter for exactly 2 mths. I'd say its done, still not sure if this is the one I'm going to bottle today however. Some doubts have arisen about my bottle cleaning process and I love cream/milk stouts so if a batch gets ruined I don't want this one to be it.

What is your bottle cleaning process? I give all my rinsed bottles a 1 hour soak in PBW (or longer if needed to remove labels), then rinse, wash in blue Dawn, rinse and store. On bottling day, rinse inside and out and put in the oven at 220 for 30 minutes... Havn't had an infection... Yet

 

[christyle]

Wow..... that's intense. I just rinse with water after drinking to get anything out, or let it soak with pbw if its got some mold in it from sitting too long with beer in it. Soak in Star San for a minute or two, drip dry on a sanitized bottling tree. Never had an issue.

 

[wtaylor3]

What is your bottle cleaning process? I give all my rinsed bottles a 1 hour soak in PBW (or longer if needed to remove labels), then rinse, wash in blue Dawn, rinse and store. On bottling day, rinse inside and out and put in the oven at 220 for 30 minutes... Havn't had an infection... Yet

I soaked them in oxyclean overnight used my bottle brush in my cordless drill and some still had a residue

 

[TrustyOlJohnson]

I soaked them in oxyclean overnight used my bottle brush in my cordless drill and some still had a residue

Ive thought about using Oxiclean, I know it works and saves money.. How much do you use per 5 gallons?

 

[phyllobeddo]

Ive thought about using Oxiclean, I know it works and saves money.. How much do you use per 5 gallons?

I use close to a full scoop with five gallons of hot tap water.

 

[BigGoat]

Just a quick rinse after drinking to get rid of the gunk or a bottle brush if it gets moldy. Then run them through the dishwasher on sanitize cycle and they're good to go. Not a bottle infection yet.

 

[wtaylor3]

Rinsing after drinking has helped, however some of these were donated or bought empty from the liquor store so they're pretty rough.

I think I managed to get 55 of them clean enough. Now I have to come up with another 50+ bottles to get deception into bottles.

Unfortunately, empty fermenters bug me so ill have to brew again and then be right back to the same problem ha ha

 

[glenn514]

When I get some of those empty bottles that have science experiments growing in them, I don't even bother to expend the energy to clean them. They simply go into my recycling bin, which is collected weekly. And if we did not have a recycling program, those bottles would end up in the landfill. Some are simply NOT worth the effort.

glenn514

 

[TrustyOlJohnson]

I started brewing with a stack of equipment, an old copy of Pappazians book, and 6 cases of bottles. All for $25. The bottles had been sitting for about 7 years, and they were dirty, after I had soaked some, baby mice floated out of the bottles. That was gross... But I found that a soak, an hour to a day, in 5 gallons of water with 3 tbsp of PbW always cleaned em up. Labels have been tougher to remove than the gunk inside

 

[chucknorris101]

So im going to brew this tomorrow. PLugged it into Beersmith and the IBUs read way high compared to the listed front page recipe - like 35. with same AA and such. Whats the difference?

 

[Safa]

Length of boil? Using metric vs imperial?

 

[stever1000]

I bought 22 cases (264 bottles) from someone that quit home brewing. I found a receipt in one of the boxes that was dated 1983 (older than me!)

I soaked them in hot water with soap, then scrubbed them with a brush until they were shiny clean inside and out, then soaked them in hot bleach solution for minimum 1 hour. Then rinsed several times with hot water, shot some starsan inside, then left them to dry upside down.

The whole process took 2 weeks off/on

No contamination yet

 

[TrustyOlJohnson]

I bought 22 cases (264 bottles) from someone that quit home brewing. I found a receipt in one of the boxes that was dated 1983 (older than me!)



I soaked them in hot water with soap, then scrubbed them with a brush until they were shiny clean inside and out, then soaked them in hot bleach solution for minimum 1 hour. Then rinsed several times with hot water, shot some starsan inside, then left them to dry upside down.



The whole process took 2 weeks off/on



No contamination yet

Well played sir, well played!

 

[chucknorris101]

Sams units and volume as the Main post, probably just something weird in beersmith. 8 ibu probably not a big deal anyway. I thought last night it was 21 ibu in the recipe post.

 

[seandamnit]

Made the extract recipe on Sunday, accidentally poured the whole 1oz bag of hops in instead of measuring out .75oz (I doubt this will make a big difference). 1.062 OG. Bubbling away after just a few hours.

Thinking about adding some vanilla after it's done fermenting. Would want it to be subtle, so probably only 1 bean - anyone have any thoughts on this?

Update - cracked open the first bottle yesterday, and it was great despite the fact that FG was 1.023...quite a few points higher than expected. I didn't end up adding the vanilla.

Thanks OP for the great recipe, and thanks to everyone else for your contribution to the thread

 

[seandamnit]

http://imgur.com/HezGPpx

Cheers all. Great beer, would brew again for sure.

 

[billspudley]

I'm trying to order everything for this recipe, but I have several questions:
- When buying the grain, should I get the whole grains or crushed versions?
- Are they (cara/chryst, chocolate malt, barley) steeped at around 155 for about 15 minutes prior to beginning the boil?