Best SMaSH recipe you've made???

[wozzer]

At the risk of heresy, has anyone ever done a "cheater" SMaSH with a clean bittering charge of warrior or magnum, and then used the real flavor hop for the rest of the brew? I'm thinking about trying a MO/AM cheater smash with warrior for bittering. My thinking is that with the high alpha content, I can use much less hops and get the same about of bittering.

Anything you dare try, is not a cheat.

Let's know how that works out.

 

[badlee]

Yup
Magnum/mittelfrueh
NB/Glacier

 

[winvarin]

The Morebeer single hop kit beers come with a bittering charge of magnum I believe and then feature the "experiment" hop as a late addition(s)


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[urbanmyth]

at the risk of heresy, has anyone ever done a "cheater" smash with a clean bittering charge of warrior or magnum, and then used the real flavor hop for the rest of the brew? I'm thinking about trying a mo/am cheater smash with warrior for bittering. My thinking is that with the high alpha content, i can use much less hops and get the same about of bittering.

am?

 

[DrunkleJon]

Amarillo?

 

[dangerbrew]

11 lbs Maris Otter
4 oz of Mosaic hops (1 oz at 60, 1 oz at flameout, and 2 oz dry-hop)
Mash at 152 for 60
Do a 20-minute hopstand for good measure

Enjoy

 

[NathPowe]

Yeah I do a really similar beer to this ^ and it's way tasty.

I've got a M.O. / Columbus SMaSH IPA on tap right now that's probably my favorite though. between the boil and the dry hop I think I had about 9oz total. 13lbs of M.O. and US-05. Worked out really nice. Amazing the color you can get from just M.O.

 

[marvinsjunk]

11 lbs Maris Otter

4 oz of Mosaic hops (1 oz at 60, 1 oz at flameout, and 2 oz dry-hop)

Mash at 152 for 60

Do a 20-minute hopstand for good measure



Enjoy

We made almost this exact recipe (except cheated with Columbus for bittering) and it was the best beer we've made in our 1.5 years of brewing. That is, until we made the second version which added a small amount of crystal malt and a bunch more Columbus in late additions. Holy moly I love mosaic!

 

[DurtyChemist]

15 lbs American. 2 row and 2 ounces Zythos hops.

This weekend is marris otter to learn about the malt flavor.

 

[skw]

I just tried the first bottle of my Munich/Spalter Select. I liked the previous Munich/Tettnanger a little bit more, but I'll wait how the Spalter ages, it just finished carbonating and could use some more conditioning time.

I need to keep a steady supply of this stuff - the first sip of a 100% Munich Ale is a bit weird, but after half a pint I just want more. Both were FWH only, btw.

 

[opiate82]

I did a Vienna/Mt. Hood that turned out really nice. Very popular amongst the BMC crowd as well as those who enjoy blonde ales.

 

[bizarrojosh]

I just tried the first bottle of my Munich/Spalter Select. I liked the previous Munich/Tettnanger a little bit more, but I'll wait how the Spalter ages, it just finished carbonating and could use some more conditioning time.

I need to keep a steady supply of this stuff - the first sip of a 100% Munich Ale is a bit weird, but after half a pint I just want more. Both were FWH only, btw.

That sounds good. I love tettnang and I need to try Munich malt. Recipe?

 

[skw]

There isn't really much of a recipe, I was just winging it. 3kg of Munich malt, no sparge, ~30g Tettnang in FVW, 60 minute boil, 13°P OG, no chill, US-05 for 10L of finished beer.

The follow up brew with Spalter Select was done with 4.5kg malt, batch sparged, 13°P OG, 60g Spalter Select and Nottingham yeast for 20L.

 

[petrolSpice]

Would using all pale 2-row for the malt be bad? Seems like there are very few SMaSH recipes out there that use pale 2-row. Pilsner, vienna, munich, and maris otter seem most common for the malt.

 

[Broham1]

Depends on the purpose of the recipe. If you're really trying to figure out the flavor and aroma of a particular hop, then two row would allow the hops to shine over the malt.

 

[DrunkleJon]

Would using all pale 2-row for the malt be bad? Seems like there are very few SMaSH recipes out there that use pale 2-row. Pilsner, vienna, munich, and maris otter seem most common for the malt.

Standard 2-row could work, but the point of a SMASH is really to determine the flavors imparted by the malt and hop so you can design beers better. standard 2row is the mildest, least flavor contributer of the base grains. Most APAs are 2row, a little crystal/caramel and hops.

 

[geepmaley]

First SMaSH and first hop bursting

7 lbs Maris Otter
1.5oz Apollo (18.7%) - 0.25oz hop burst at startign at 20 every 5 minutes
then .5oz at flameout
1oz dry hop 10 days in primary, no secondary

OG 1.054, 48 IBUs

US-05. 3. 5 gallons into fermenter

Came out really nice

 

[Broham1]

I'm planning to split 10 gallons in two. Tell me what you think:

100% Vienna or MO to 1.054
2oz Mosiac or Sorachi Ace at 20
2oz Mosiac or Sorachi Ace at 10
2oz Mosiac or Sorachi Ace at 0
2oz Mosiac or Sorachi Ace dry hop

One half gets WY1098, other WY3711

I'm questioning my malt choice and my hop choice. What would you recommend?

 

[Hopinista]

My favorite SMaSH I've ever made was Maris Otter, Green Bullet, and WY1272.

 

[brew2enjoy]

I just kegged a MO/cascade smash. Sample was very good. This was simply supposed to be a test batch for my new equipment setup, but I might end up brewing it again.

 

[bizarrojosh]

I'm planning to split 10 gallons in two. Tell me what you think:

100% Vienna or MO to 1.054
2oz Mosiac or Sorachi Ace at 20
2oz Mosiac or Sorachi Ace at 10
2oz Mosiac or Sorachi Ace at 0
2oz Mosiac or Sorachi Ace dry hop

One half gets WY1098, other WY3711

I'm questioning my malt choice and my hop choice. What would you recommend?

I've only used Maris otter and never Vienna but I'm sure either would be fine. MO has a nice bread flavor when compared to other malts.

 

[bizarrojosh]

I just kegged a MO/cascade smash. Sample was very good. This was simply supposed to be a test batch for my new equipment setup, but I might end up brewing it again.

I made the same smash and it was fantastic. It sort of tastes like a flower.

 

[Celt]

Just did one with 15 LBS 2-row and EKG Safale #5
We will see when its ready how it tastes

 

[MollyHatchet]

Working on a keg of 15 lb of MO and 14 oz of whole leafs Cascade out of my garden, very nice and plenty hoppy! I will need to do this again!!......


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[johngaltsmotor]

I'm planning to split 10 gallons in two. Tell me what you think:

100% Vienna or MO to 1.054
2oz Mosiac or Sorachi Ace at 20
2oz Mosiac or Sorachi Ace at 10
2oz Mosiac or Sorachi Ace at 0
2oz Mosiac or Sorachi Ace dry hop

One half gets WY1098, other WY3711

I'm questioning my malt choice and my hop choice. What would you recommend?

Having just tapped a Vienna/Sorachi SMaSH I'd say be careful. I used 1oz each at 60/15/0 and WOW is that a unique flavor. The bite of the hops is good. The aroma is unusual. The flavor... well... I will be SMaSHing Vienna again, but Sorachi is off my hop list: not much lemon, more dill and ?lemongrass? It has a much earthier flavor than I expected when everyone says it provides a "lemon" flavor/aroma.

 

[tootal]

We did a pre prohibition American lager SMASH. We used all 6 row malt and Cluster hops. Well, we did have 30% rice but it was a single malt, single hop!
It ended up being a really nice beer and I really liked the cluster hops. They get a bad rap but they were very authentic to early American lagers.

 

[DurtyChemist]

Two batches

15 lbs American 2 row and 15 lbs Marris Otter

2 oz Zythis hops because the shop hadn't tried and I never heard of them

75 min mash BIAB 150f, hour boil

American 2 row kegged and sitting in the spare room, Marris otter fermenting 60-65 (day 1.5 was around 73-75 )

 

[shoreman]

Seems to be a common phrase in this thread "best beer I've made to date"

Just a reminder to keep your beers simple with one, two, at tops three malts and hops.

I've been brewing for about 10 years and the further along I go in the hobby, simplicity becomes more and more important (gear and recipes)

 

[icebob]

got 2 starter going on, WLP001 and WLP002. Will brew 2 batch of 12lbs Maris Otter with 4oz Simcoe and try both yeast... May brew 1 more and try with US-05... can be interesting...

 

[bizarrojosh]

Let me just say that the pilsner and tettnanger saison was absolutely fantastic. Brew this beer in the summer ever year. Sooooo good.