TasunkaWitko
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The moment the phrase "lowest common denominator" gets thrown around, then snob territory has probably been entered, even if unintentionally.
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I disagree.
It's certainly a pejorative phrasing (and as the first to use it in this thread I intended as such), but I interpret it more as a derogatory to the panderer (in this case BMC) not the target of the pandering (well, everyone).
But to each their own.
They have designed and mass marketed a product intended to be inoffensive to anyone. And as such it is without anything distinguishing characteristics. To appeal to chart lines and statistics more than people. Mathematical thinking. Lowest common denominator.
It's a company pigeonholing it's customers through marketing departments.
I liken it to the "Network Execubots" from Futurama, specifically the one designed to "underestimate middle America"
applescrap
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Pejorative, thanks so much, between that and facetious I can explain much of my comments.
I often have Coors Banquet in the fridge, but I don't like bud, so I don't drink it. I recently moved and my brewery was down for a couple of months. I can get a 36 of banquet for $20 and the latest IPA/Hazy/Imperial Red, whatever, cost 20 for a sixer. I figure after the first couple my smell and taste receptors are so dulled give me a nice American lager. Doh!!
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This is like arguing over your favorite color.
Mine is Paisley...
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There are such things as super senses. I know very intelligent people who hate craft beer. I know knuckle dragers who love it. It's the same with any sense. I can hear the polyphony (simultaneous themes) in Bach's music where others only hear noise. I think it's more about your DNA AND pocket book then anything. I've turned people onto craft brews but they can't afford $15 for a BA Stout like me. So Lone Star it is for them.
Soulshine2
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BrewMan13
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Historically, you were often called a "beer snob" just for liking beer outside of the usual BMC stuff, even if you didn't make a big deal about it. The line that makes one a snob to me was always more like "do you push your beer preferences on other people"? And it's a door that swings both ways: I won't mock your beer choices if you don't mock mine.
TasunkaWitko
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Maybe it's a regional thing - I'm from north-central Montana, where the deer, angus-cross cattle and gophers outnumber the people on any given day, by far. When your friend, neighbor or relative offers you a beer, you take the beer, you thank him for the beer and you drink the beer, whether it's BMC, homebrew, microbrew or that new stuff that they are conning people into paying 28$/4-pack for. Period.
My dad was a dedicated BMC guy all his life, but in less than 2 years I have him drinking, brewing and enjoying some of the roastiest, toastiest stuff you can find, as well as IPAs that are a little too hoppy even for me. But when Milwaukee's Best is on sale, he's still going to buy all that the local Town Pump has in the cooler.
My dad was a dedicated BMC guy all his life, but in less than 2 years I have him drinking, brewing and enjoying some of the roastiest, toastiest stuff you can find, as well as IPAs that are a little too hoppy even for me. But when Milwaukee's Best is on sale, he's still going to buy all that the local Town Pump has in the cooler.
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Taste is subjective to judge someone for theirs is ignorance
TasunkaWitko
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I have a story that illustrates this well... A few years back, we did a bottle share / tasting event with a bunch of my homebrew club members. We had some good stuff... Verticals of Black Tuesday, of Parabola, a bottle or two of Cantillon, etc... Some really nice stuff.
It was about the time that Bud Black Crown Lager had been released. I brought a 12-pack along with me as I'd been interested in trying it and figured other folks might like to see if it was any good as well.
All of the homebrewers were quite complimentary of the beer. It was well-brewed, and quite frankly was delicious. Only one person refused to drink it... A friend of the host who happened to be a beer snob and was NOT a homebrewer.
So I agree with you... I think that brewing your own beer gives a different perspective entirely.
BTW it was even more of a hit than I had anticipated. When we took a break for lunch, eating pulled pork sandwiches, everyone wanted more of the Black Crown. Seems it pairs more easily with BBQ than the Black Tuesday lol ;-)
cswant88
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I’d drink BMC if it was the only choice offered to me. I don’t dislike it, like the OP and others my taste buds find it lacking. I wouldn’t purchase it for myself.
A friend I work with is a heavy Miller drinker, keeps a permanent stash of it in the ice chest in the back of his truck. He once claimed that he doesn’t like craft beer. I didn’t trash him for his opinion, I simply didn’t understand it. He enjoyed some of my home brewed cream ale and lemon shandy I gave him. Fast forward a couple years, and while he still predominantly drinks miller, he has been broadening his horizons.
A friend I work with is a heavy Miller drinker, keeps a permanent stash of it in the ice chest in the back of his truck. He once claimed that he doesn’t like craft beer. I didn’t trash him for his opinion, I simply didn’t understand it. He enjoyed some of my home brewed cream ale and lemon shandy I gave him. Fast forward a couple years, and while he still predominantly drinks miller, he has been broadening his horizons.
applescrap
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I believe a lot of us are none of the above. None fit me at all. But I did enjoy the one about The Groupthinker. That one drives me nuts.
jack13
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I agree. Happy to say I've never met any of those people. Seems to be just taking some minor tendencies and exaggerating them to an extreme, just for entertainment.
Someone like me could have provided the 'source material' for #12 The Glassware Obsessive, as I do base my glassware choice at home on the type of beer I'm pouring into it.
I used to be a snob...joking about liking "real beer" as opposed to that swill put out by the macro breweries. Even then, I'd drink it if I was tailgating and that was what was available, or at the golf course where they didn't have any craft beer. I do remember golfing at a best shot tourney where the other two we were paired with snuck in some IPAs. After a couple millers, they gave me one and I could have kissed them.
Now I'm more of an evangelist. I don't judge, people who like swi...I mean macros (kidding about the swill), I try to accommodate them if they're my guest at home or when we're out.
But, I do try to expose people to other types of beer. Many think all craft beer is bitter as hell or black roasty tar. I like to show them other types of craft beer...most people who try a wide variety of craft beer find one that really speaks to them. I try to facilitate that journey, but also try not to be pushy about it. I provide opportunities, I don't shove it down their throat.
My wife is in education and I hang with her co-workers a fair amount. I took an assortment of craft beer the first time I went to one of their end-of-the-year parties. I ended up going back home for more and a number of them are now really into craft beer. They also are always asking me to bring my latest homebrew.
It's pretty cool when you see someone try a good quality craft beer and have the eureka moment.
Now I'm more of an evangelist. I don't judge, people who like swi...I mean macros (kidding about the swill), I try to accommodate them if they're my guest at home or when we're out.
But, I do try to expose people to other types of beer. Many think all craft beer is bitter as hell or black roasty tar. I like to show them other types of craft beer...most people who try a wide variety of craft beer find one that really speaks to them. I try to facilitate that journey, but also try not to be pushy about it. I provide opportunities, I don't shove it down their throat.
My wife is in education and I hang with her co-workers a fair amount. I took an assortment of craft beer the first time I went to one of their end-of-the-year parties. I ended up going back home for more and a number of them are now really into craft beer. They also are always asking me to bring my latest homebrew.
It's pretty cool when you see someone try a good quality craft beer and have the eureka moment.
This. In my many decades on the planet, I've run into far more picky drinkers who will only drink Bud/Miller/Coors than homebrewers who won't drink a mass produced light lager.
I actually run into The Condesender quite often, especially at BeerFests. At one of the annual beerfests the local BMC distributor always asks for volunteers to pour. Evidently there are some rules against distributors pouring. Anyways... they bring Goose Island, Founders, Golden Road, Ninkasi, Elysian, and Red Hook. I am always amazed by how many people won't even go near that row of tents. At the end of the day he always sends me home all the open cases. By next year, I hope to have a jumper made so I can transfer from his sanke kegs to my corny because any keg that gets tapped is tossed when they are done, even if we only poured a gallon of it!
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Wow! Like hitting the free beer jackpot!
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Here's the interesting thing about the BMC type of lawnmower beers...like any other style they have their place. And if you travel around the world you'll find that a lot of countries have their own version of it. Obviously some are better than others with more character or interest but at the end of the day they're all simple light lagers. But many countries I've traveled to, that's EXACTLY what you want...try chowing down on some spicy Thai noodles when it's 100F in the shade and try to tell me that cold light lager doesn't go down perfectly. It's all about context and the balancing act of your palate when you're pairing food with beer and the lawnmower beers definitely have their place too.
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Personally I think the Mexicans do the style the best. I’m not gonna lie I love Modelo especial...Pacifico is a close second. Living in Los Angeles for 5 years now I’ve developed a taste for it. I’ve also tried a number of Asian versions of BMC and it’s not so great....ever had HITE? It’s Korean and it tastes like rubber bands lol. The Asian supermarkets sell it in plastic 2 liters....never again.
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Agreed, there are some real nice Mexican lagers available and you listed 2 of my faves too...and damn do they pair well with some street tacos or a spicy mole sauce!
Asian lagers are more hit or miss I found, you gotta try them all to see which are decent...probably my 2 faves were:
Beer Lao - Laos
Angkor - Cambodia
Laos in particular features some scorching hot (albeit delicious) dishes so a nice crisp cold lager really helps cool the throat and tastebuds for more.
Luckily, Club Colombia is a high quality lager, and that's what you get offered around here.
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