All NEIPA recipes taste the same

[HM-2]

I think it's just Brewer's Friend being wonky in it's calculations. That 6oz whirlpool is probably about 25-30 IBU.

 

[day_trippr]

Yeah, maybe BF thinks isomerization starts somewhere above 165°F.
I mean it's going to be low, but it's not going to be zero...

Cheers!

 

[RyPA]

The transfer went smooth. It took around 45 minutes and I got like 99.796% of the beer transfered.

Though, the silicone tubing I recently bought has thicker walls than the tube that came with the Torpedo floating dip tube. I think this may be too stiff and at one point overpowered the buoy, making it go under the surface. I came across the FLOTit 2.0 floating dip tube that I am considering buying instead of using the buoy style Torpedo brand version. Does anyone have experience with it?

 

[Dog House Brew]

The transfer went smooth. It took around 45 minutes and I got like 99.796% of the beer transfered.

Though, the silicone tubing I recently bought has thicker walls than the tube that came with the Torpedo floating dip tube. I think this may be too stiff and at one point overpowered the buoy, making it go under the surface. I came across the FLOTit 2.0 floating dip tube that I am considering buying instead of using the buoy style Torpedo brand version. Does anyone have experience with it?

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Buy The Flotit, never an issue and amazing service. I have 6 of them w no regrets.

 

[RyPA]

Buy The Flotit, never an issue and amazing service. I have 6 of them w no regrets.

Have you also used traditional/buoy floating dip tubes? They have served me well for the most part over the last 3 years. Occasionally they would let out gas instead of beer which would require some vessel shakes to get it back into the beer.

Does the Flotit work for closed transfers?

Trying to justify buying one, I dont need a 4th floating dip tube, but if its better, Ill definitely pick one up

 

[Dog House Brew]

Have you also used traditional/buoy floating dip tubes? They have served me well for the most part over the last 3 years. Occasionally they would let out gas instead of beer which would require some vessel shakes to get it back into the beer.

Does the Flotit work for closed transfers?

Trying to justify buying one, I dont need a 4th floating dip tube, but if its better, Ill definitely pick one up

Yes they work. I’ve never had mine blow off. I started with Flotit and never had an issue. So no experience with the others. My FZ fermenters came with one, changed to the Flotit. Probably should have tried it.

 

[RyPA]

Get it off the green matter and into a keg under carbonation pressure ASAP. At these DH rates you will get hop burn, it's unavoidable. A week in keg at 12psi and it'll be carbed and the astringency cleared.

Hazies tend to come into their prime about 10 days from packaging. Many commercial breweries wait 3 or more weeks from canning to sale to the public.

I am realizing that this may be an indicator of why my NEIPA’s have historically all tasted the same. For 98% of them I did not get hop burn and began drinking them pretty quickly; I fermented in a keg, once FG was reached I would add dry hops to the keg and move the keg to the kegerator and I began drinking once carbonated. So maybe all of this time I have been under hopping and as a result getting minimal hop flavor and the malt/yeast was providing the majority of the flavor, resulting in most of the beers tasting identical. Interested to see how this one tastes in 10 days.

 

[bwible]

Scanned all the posts in this thread. It started with a discussion of yeast then went in 30 different directions as some of these do. Right away I thought of Wyeast 1318 London III and I did not see it mentioned. Isn’t this supposed to be the yeast for NEiPA?

Profile: Originating from a traditional London brewery, this yeast has a wonderful malt and hop profile. It is a true top cropping strain with a fruity, very light and softly balanced palate. This strain will finish slightly sweet. London Ale III has become synonymous with the production of New England IPAs, also known as a juicy IPA or hazy IPA, and balances well with the tropical fruit qualities from late and dry hop additions.

I saw Verdant mentioned a few times. I’ve come aroumd to dry yeasts but don’t know which dry yeasts equal which liquid yeasts, ie if 1318 and Verdant are similar. I realize too that not everybody likes liquid yeast, etc. But I would think if you’re trying to make something this specislized it would be best to follow the science as they say.

Disclaimer: I’m not your guy for NEIPA. I do not brew it or drink it, as the mere sight of it causes my throat to close and initiates a gag reflex. But I always see this yeast description when I’m looking at yeasts, British yeasts specifically.

 

[day_trippr]

You gonna be ok?

fwiw, I always use 1318 for my hazies...

Cheers!

 

[RyPA]

From what I’ve read, Verdant IPA is a derivative/dry version of London Ale III

 

[HM-2]

From what I’ve read, Verdant IPA is a derivative/dry version of London Ale III

It is an LA3 mutation. Verdant are regarded as one of the best hazy brewers in the UK and their yeast is absolutely stellar for this style of beer.

 

[DevilsCups]

I came across the FLOTit 2.0 floating dip tube that I am considering buying instead of using the buoy style Torpedo brand version. Does anyone have experience with it?

The FLOTit is fantastic.

 

[RyPA]

The FLOTit is fantastic.

I ended up buying it because why not, it arrived yesterday. I am going to use it in my All Rounder.

Though, I do think the only benefit over the filtered Torpedo variant is better filtration, which is good when sucking up the last 1” or so of fermented wort right off of the yeast/hop cake.

I dont like the 2 thin metal pins that protrude out as these may scratch the inside of the All Rounder. I am going to try to file the sharp edges down a bit, if that doesnt work Ill try to use the flotit filter with Torpedo buoy.

 

[RyPA]

I am at 10 days in the keg and the beer does not taste good, I think it’s a bit over dry hopped. Though it is one of my nicest looking NEIPA’s.

I read that maybe some biofine or gelatin can help. If this will get me results faster than waiting months, then I’m all for it. Does anyone have experience with either?

 

[YeastFeast]

I am at 10 days in the keg and the beer does not taste good, I think it’s a bit over dry hopped.

Are you referring to hop burn/bite? I don't remember if you said, did you soft crash to 50-55ºF for several days and THEN dry hop?
Once I started doing this I get zero hop burn from day 1.

 

[RyPA]

Are you referring to hop burn/bite? I don't remember if you said, did you soft crash to 50-55ºF for several days and THEN dry hop?
Once I started doing this I get zero hop burn from day 1.

I did soft crash to 50 for a few days prior to dry hopping. The beer has since improved significantly, though I think I used too much dry hops. It has a bit of a hop bite and not as much of a juicy character I was aiming for.

 

[Bobby_M]

Try only leaving the beer on the dry hop for 24-36 hours.

Another thing I noticed is that anything more than 1oz of dry hops per gallon of beer, the aroma didn't improve but the time to allow hop burn to diminish just increased.

 

[RyPA]

Try only leaving the beer on the dry hop for 24-36 hours.

Another thing I noticed is that anything more than 1oz of dry hops per gallon of beer, the aroma didn't improve but the time to allow hop burn to diminish just increased.

What size DH charge do you normally do in a 5-6g batch?

 

[RyPA]

Providing an update on this batch... while it has improved, it still does not taste good and will likely become a dumper. I am going to keep my dry hop charges more modest as that has worked great in the past.

https://www.brewersfriend.com/homebrew/recipe/view/1531155/amarillo-strata-vic-secret-neipa