Where to find brewmasters?

[BrianTheBrewer]

Nooooo man no persoanl offense I get it....all good

 

[The Pol]

I will from now on post all sacrastic comments with a "WINK WINK" on them, though that sorta defeats the purpose of using saracasm, which means there is no point in posting... so how the heck am I going to reach 3,000 posts??

EDIT, WINK WINK

 

[The Pol]

Look, people over the past few years have been HELL BENT on buying homes they cannot afford and are getting tossed out and are living in thier old appliance boxes. If this dude is HELL BENT on doing the same with a brewery, hells yah, do it! When I am in Austin I see guys like him with folding chairs and coolers at all the stop lights...

 

[BrianTheBrewer]

Hahahahahahahaha 3,000 im just trying to hit 500, Wink Wink

 

[BrianTheBrewer]

Ya man I agree, if you are 100% down on doing something then just do it and dont listen to anyone else.

 

[Bigsnake]

If you do this, then please pm the location of where it's opening. I'd like to pick-up some cheap equipment in a year.

 

[BrianTheBrewer]

Hahahahaha

 

[BrianTheBrewer]

Hey everyone!

I know this a home-brewing forum but since a lot of people seem quite knowledgeable here, I hope my post isn't considered too off topic or unrelated to this forum.

I want to start a microbrewery. I've looked at the costs, equipment, permits, etc so I know what I'm up against. I'm still not fazed or overwhelmed since I've run a business before and I actually find that challenging in a good way.

The one thing I don't want to do is make the beer. That means I want somebody who has the expertise to make a good brew and the experience of dealing with the large and expensive equipment. How would I find somebody like that?

This is towards your last line you typed...YOU WILL NEVER FIND ONE HERE!!!

 

[andyi]

This is towards your last line you typed...YOU WILL NEVER FIND ONE HERE!!!

I understand. I assumed there'd be a bigger crossover but the first link I was given is good enough.

 

[BrianTheBrewer]

Well good luck in the end...

 

[BigKahuna]

I will from now on post all sacrastic comments with a "WINK WINK" on them, though that sorta defeats the purpose of using saracasm, which means there is no point in posting... so how the heck am I going to reach 3,000 posts??

EDIT, WINK WINK

DUDE....Use the

You can be whatever kind of jerk you can manage and just put a at the end....Nobody will think you're a ***** at all...

 

[Kilgore_Trout]

This would be interesting to see.

If you plan on selling for cheaper than BMC then you're looking at sub-$.50 per serving.

You'd be hard pressed to produce beer for that on a small/medium scale, let alone sell it at a profit. The crowd that is looking to save the $.03-$.10 per can savings you are offering is not going to be willing to drive a great distance to get your brews.

Best of luck to you, but you're doing it wrong :/ . You aren't going to be able to beat a massive corporation's prices, you gotta focus on quality instead (which is how every succesful micro has made it).

 

[Laughing_Gnome_Invisible]

I use the a LOT........But I'm still a ******,

 

[Revvy]

I worked several loooong seconds designing your label...so I expect some residuals for my labor.

Of course you have to have one to compete in the light swill market as well...

 

[joe6pack]

We need a special font just for sarcasm.

 

[Beerthoven]

I don't know where to start!
I am an MBA student and have done a lot of research on the beer industry. First, why do you want to enter into a price war with the macro brewers?? I ask this because, 1. They WILL win and 2. Beer is price inelastic! Demand is NOT affected by price! This is shown in multiple studies:

Ornstein and Hanssens (1985) -0.142
Nelson (1999) -0.200
Nelson (2003) -0.174

As you lower price, demand barely moves so, in effect, you are just transferring economic value to the consumer for nothing + attracting the attention of the big brewers who will crush you if you start to gain any kind of traction!! You must keep price integrity of your respectable beer segment!

I ran multiple regressions on all types of data (California) and saw that the only thing that affects beer demand there is TPI (personal income). My results showed that overall beer demand is not affected by price BUT as people made more or less income they traded up to craft beer or down to macro swill accordingly. People will drink beer in all economic conditions; what beer they drink is only determined, more or less, by their income. Everything else was statistically insignificant!

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It's true that aggregate demand for alcohol is price inelastic, but people who drink will switch brands readily if the price is right. If a new, cheaper beer is introduced and marketed appropriately, it may succeed in capturing significant market share.

You should check out these two papers (I'm second author on both):

Bray, J.W., B. Loomis, and M. Engelen. 2008. "You Save Money When You Buy in Bulk: Does Volume Based Pricing Cause People to Buy More Beer?" Health Economics, in press (available online now).

Bray, J.W., B. Loomis, and M. Engelen. 2007. “Correlates of In-Store Promotions for Beer: Differential Effects of Market and Product Characteristics.” Journal of Studies on Alcohol and Drugs 68(2):220-227.

We used retail scanner data with information on hundreds of brands of beer over a 5-year period from 64 market areas across the U.S. We estimated own- and cross-price elasticities for several package sizes and beer types using panel-data regression methods and found that price drops can lead to significant shifts among the types of beer sold, even if overall demand does not increase appreciably. In-store promotions are an important driver of sales, and regulating them would be a better way to reduce overall demand for beer than raising the beer tax.

 

[sidneysaintpe]

It's true that aggregate demand for alcohol is price inelastic, but people who drink will switch brands readily if the price is right. If a new, cheaper beer is introduced and marketed appropriately, it may succeed in capturing significant market share.

Thanks for the comments, I'll try to check out your papers. Indeed, macro beer segment drinkers will readily switch due to low switching costs (although brand loyalty in this segment is strong). This is a known fact.
Your findings are valid for the thread starter if, and only if, the big brewers ALLOW him to keep his price low. This is why I warned him of entering into a price war with the big brewers. They are not going to let him have his product priced below theirs for too long. He will gain market share in the short run (he MUST if he is going to survive with a low margin product); however, as they take notice of his success, the big brewers will lower their prices in the areas he distributes (a far enough radius to prevent arbitrage) and absolutely KILL him.

 

[Beerthoven]

Thanks for the comments, I'll try to check out your papers. Indeed, macro beer segment drinkers will readily switch due to low switching costs (although brand loyalty in this segment is strong). This is a known fact.
Your findings are valid if, and only if, the big brewers ALLOW him to keep his price low. This is why I warned him of entering into a price war with the big brewers. They are not going to let him have his product priced below theirs for too long. He will gain market share in the short run (he MUST if he is going to survive with a low margin product); however, as they take notice of his success, the big brewers will lower their prices in the areas he distributes (a far enough radius to prevent arbitrage) and absolutely KILL him.

I agree, barriers to entry into the market for widely-distributed beer are significant.

 

[Gregredic]

Paragraph 3....

Realbeer.com: Beer Break - Shipping Beer

You can't be a brewer and a distributor in any state.

 

[nawrockious]

hey everyone!

I know this a home-brewing forum but since a lot of people seem quite knowledgeable here, i hope my post isn't considered too off topic or unrelated to this forum.

I want to start a microbrewery. I've looked at the costs, equipment, permits, etc so i know what i'm up against. I'm still not fazed or overwhelmed since i've run a business before and i actually find that challenging in a good way.

The one thing i don't want to do is make the beer. That means i want somebody who has the expertise to make a good brew and the experience of dealing with the large and expensive equipment. how would i find somebody like that?

what state are you interested in doing this?

 

[Calichusetts]

Boom...almost 6 years!

Impressive first post!