Joshua Hughes
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Not my thread but thanks I’ll be looking these guys up!AIH and Great Fermentations are both shipping with the same speed and prices as before and are family owned small businesses. I’ll stick with them.
Not my thread but thanks I’ll be looking these guys up!AIH and Great Fermentations are both shipping with the same speed and prices as before and are family owned small businesses. I’ll stick with them.
Boy, i guess this is a great example of the old internet abbreviation..
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(YMMV)
It also could be a pricing issue. Although they are the "same" company, an advantage to having two websites is to provide two tier pricing. For example, (pre covid) i think the spend threshold minimum for free shipping was different on each site.There is something up with Northern Brewer now or at least on their web site. I went surfing through the Extract Ale kits looking for some deals and most of them were "sold out" . I then looked at Midwest Supplies (their sort-of the same company right?) and all seemed good. I didn't think to snoop around to see if was maybe a yeast issue or extract but something is amiss. Going to go back and snoop some more, News @ 11:00
Edit> It looks like is just an issue with "Kits" in general. Extract and All-Grain/BIAB kits are both mostly out of stock. Every thing I looked at was in stock except Briess Pilsen & Maris Otter LME. Must just not be putting kits together @ NB. Could be a staffing issue with the C-19 deal, who knows. Back to your regular programing.
It also could be a pricing issue. Although they are the "same" company, an advantage to having two websites is to provide two tier pricing. For example, (pre covid) i think the spend threshold minimum for free shipping was different on each site.
Lots of companies will do this- essentially sell the same product through different channells. It allows for them to maximize pricing.
I often wind myself up on purpose...You are probably right on that. I did a little more looking and saw something about the difference in how each site is dealing with their store front sales with the Covid situation. I guess I just got a little wound up for nothing. Easy to do that lately with every thing going on as it is.
Cheers
Joel B.
I love in extreme northern California and the last order I placed with Williams arrived the next day.
I’m done with northernbrewer now. I don’t think I’ve had an order arrive on time or with all my items EVER in the 4 years using you guys. I ordered some grains even just this last Sunday and here we are on the following Monday and the order hasn’t even been processed.Hey guys, It's Todd from Northern Brewer. One of our crew pointed me to this post. I am sorry for the slip in service from what you are used to. We are working hard to get back to the normal that you are used to (including live support via text and/or chat) but we had some challenges to work through and a huge backlog of emails to get through. I know it has to be frustrating and hope that we are back much sooner than later.
If you emailed us, we will be responded as quick as we can. Sorry again for the delay.
As far as shipping, we try to keep that transparent... full details can be found here: Shipping Information
@canvasoso - we will get a response back to 1 of your 3 emails as soon as we can. Happy brewing. - Todd J
You said you were done with them:God…they keep buying up their competitors and now everywhere I go I have to order from these idiots. My last three orders
1. 19 days to fulfill
2. 14 days to fulfill
3. 14 days and counting
Why did you order from them again?I’m done with northernbrewer now.
The smaller local shops are probably safe from predators as such. They're after the bigger, national presence ones with larger or even national sales coverage.I will keep buying from independent places like this until NB buys them too
Start this idea as a new topic. If I see it, I'll probably contribute ideas.I don't know how anyone could order weeks in advance. I'm not close to being that organized!
FTFY.I will keep buying from independent places like this untilNB buys them toothe independent store sells to someone else (perhaps a holding company) willing to buy them or closes the business because no buyers can be found.
I am for the most part. The only reason(s) I had two more orders was because I couldn’t find a particular grain anywhere else for an Irish red I wanted to do and the other reason was totally an accident as I didn’t realize until I checked out that Midwest is northernbrewer in disguise. I face-palmed pretty hard after that.You said you were done with them:
Why did you order from them again?
AFAIK, 2 additional homebrew supply outfits were recently acquired (3-6 months ago, IIRC) by NB / Midwest Supplies: AIH (Adventures In Homebrewing) and AHB (Austin Home Brew), without any public disclosure of such,
This unfortunate event has become common knowledge in our HBT circles.
Midwest is northernbrewer in disguise.
Their sites look and feel very similar too.There is no disguise.
Yeah, one is a little bit more "glitzy" and the other has better prices. I use them both, depends on catching the better price/sale when I need stuff. The packaging/branding is the same.Their sites look and feel very similar too.
I ordered some grain, actually a kit that I opted to have crushed, this was done on August 20th. The shipment is arriving today, (September 3) which is two weeks to the day.So are they still a decent place to order grain if you don't mind waiting a month to get it? (seriously) I have plenty of malt already, but would like to get a whole sack of vienna. Of course I'd rather have it in a week, but if it takes a month that's okay. If they charge my credit card immediately and don't ship the 2 or 3 months, that's a big problem.
I have ordered from them before their current backlog problems, and I've been to their store a few times. But not since before Covid.
For you perhaps. For me, not so much.They are too expensive for everything.
What kind of Vienna? The selection isn't as big, but the prices are better at Delta. They have sacks of Swaen (55lb) and Briess (50lb) vienna for about $67 with free shipping. I ordered 4 sacks a few days ago and they shipped the next day.So are they still a decent place to order grain if you don't mind waiting a month to get it? (seriously) I have plenty of malt already, but would like to get a whole sack of vienna. Of course I'd rather have it in a week, but if it takes a month that's okay. If they charge my credit card immediately and don't ship the 2 or 3 months, that's a big problem.
I have ordered from them before their current backlog problems, and I've been to their store a few times. But not since before Covid.
Yeah, I guess I should take more time to be an internet sleuth before I commit to an order. I was in a hurry, also a bind, saw the familiar UI and had thoughts but a lot of sites also do that are not affiliated, but I digress. In the end, the service is ****.There is no disguise.
- The relationship is clearly described on the "About Us" page of their web site.
- Various internet archives sites have snapshots of that page going back years.
You think that is bad? Their hops are marked up usually about double.They are too expensive for everything. I pay $9.50 for White Labs yeast in Canada. Why $13.00 in the US?
Yes, shipping rates world wide have gone through the roof and in the US particularly. There are just not enough truckers joining the Industry as many of the old timers retire juring Covid. Not quite as bad up here in Canada but bad just the same, until things normalise again in a couple of years, expect to see both disruption and delays in deliveries. All the more reason to buy local if you can.Just noticed 55 lb sack of grain was about $55 shipped with the free shipping and now is $39 plus about $60 shipping. Have shipping rates gone up that much?
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