You're right. I'm sorry.
I'm getting frustrated that after making claims like, "after 50+ LODO batches of all different kinds of lagers and ales, I can definitely say they are way better than before", and confident claims like "The beer is so much better this way that you'll want to dump out all your pipeline and start over!"
Then, while giving it all an honest try several batches in a row now, I ask what seems to me like a simple question that EVERYONE who espouses this process should know the exact answer to, and all I get is "it's process dependent."
Really? Then why are LODO devotees jumping all over people for not exactly following the process when, evidently, there is no process for Ales?
If that process has a paper, I'd like to read it, please. I like Helles, but it's not the only beer I drink.
There's really nothing to be frustrated about.
We recommend that people follow the Helles instructions, so they don't come to us afterward & say "Your method doesn't work".
If you follow the instructions correctly, it WILL work.
If your system is already addressing o2, you may find that you have to gas off some of the sulfur, but it will definitely work.
We verified this on the brewing systems used by 10 different guys (some with multiple brewing systems), before the paper was ever released.
Think of it like this...
If you want to bake cookies that are like Martha Stewart-perfect your first time outta the gate, you're going to follow the recipe, without omitting or changing what she says...
Why should this be any different?
We're not saying that you HAVE to do it our way...
We're saying "Try it...You'll like it".
And, if you don't want to follow the instructions we gave, we're saying "Please, don't blame us, if your changes to the process don't yield the same results that we got/get".
We spent an incredible amount of time chasing what we wanted from Helles, Festbier & Pilsner, with no care for brewing Stouts, IPAs & Sours...
We weren't out to revolutionize the craft brewing industry & never tried to fix the entire world of beer.
But, by mitigating the staling effects of o2 exposure, all our beers have improved.
Personally, I will never again brew a beer without taking steps to limit o2 exposure & if I taste what I know is stale beer in my pipeline...I WILL dump it.