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Do you feel big brother breathing down your neck yet?
Do you feel big brother breathing down your neck yet?
burnsie said:http://www.nbc5.com/news/3959595/detail.html?z=dp&dpswid=2265994&dppid=65193
Do you feel big brother breathing down your neck yet?
burnsie said:
Todd said:the guy who wrote this tried to compare a supermarket discount card to someone rummaging through your personal emails or a video camera on every block. I'm sorry those are not even close to the same thing.
let's face it, you want to see the future of our country, just look across the pond.
Look at how long it took all the great Empires to die off throughout history. How long have we been a "free" country? Our time is about up.
burnsie said:I see your point but on the shopping cards although...
It starts by us, the citizens, voluntarily giving up power to our government in the name of security, or cost savings, etc. The point is, our info is out there, the wheels are in motion.
Look at the "slippery slope" possibilies. Like gun control: They start by not allowing fully-automatic weapons (which I agree with, as does just about everyone in the country), then they move to "Assault Weapons" even though they are only semi-automatics, next comes high-capacity handguns. Handguns altogether are already banned in some areas, soon it will be more areas. The eventuality that gun-grabbers are pushing for is a complete confiscation of all firearms, even historical relics and hunting arms. Don't buy it? Like you said, just look across the pond. Or for that matter, up north.
Once the second amendment goes - so goes the first amendment...completely. Then we're really F-ed.
I also agree with you about us being "free", and our time being almost up. Its amazing how many laws are passed every day by local, state, and fed governments. Even the lawyers and judges have no hope of keeping up to stay legal, certainly not citizens.
When the tax code is longer than the Bible (which it is), you know you're in trouble.
Todd said:Look at how long it took all the great Empires to die off throughout history. How long have we been a "free" country? Our time is about up.
Dude said:burnsie said:I do think that is pathetic and sad that you would censor important political conversations because of the "potential to ruffle some feathers", especially in an adult only forum labeled NSFW. Its censorship like that which allows people to be taken advantage of due to a lack of information. Its an ages old tradition for laymen to gather in the pubs and converse on the politics of the land.
Where is this rule posted?
burnsie said:I just need to know if this is a standard policy, or your personal opinion, because if it is a standard policy - that free speech in regards to politics is not acceptable here. I want to be removed from the site.
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burnsie said:Todd,
Did I offend you? I thought we were just having a conversation. I didn't think my response qualified as "flaming". Don't let your blood pressure get up there - its all in good fun and company. I even said "I see your point, although...", and I do see your point.
Just talking man.
burnsie said:See mod, no one was even offended. I clearly made an effort to keep things civil.
Todd said:I must have missed something?
burnsie said:Burnsie,
Please refrain from posting political threads. We don't condone that here. I know your subject was put into the right area, but it had potential to ruffle some feathers.
Thanks,
Mod team
Ok, I've read your statement - and I understand that you think that political threads have no purpose other than to incite arguments - which makes me realize there is no point in talking to you about this any further. I understand your right to delete my thread - so only your judgement is in question. Please feel free to remove me from your site. Thanks.
God Emporer BillyBrew said:This is one of the coolest, most flame free forums out there and I can't help but think that avoiding political subjects has a lot to do with it.
burnsie said:Burnsie,
Please refrain from posting political threads. We don't condone that here. I know your subject was put into the right area, but it had potential to ruffle some feathers.
Thanks,
Mod team
Ok, I've read your statement - and I understand that you think that political threads have no purpose other than to incite arguments - which makes me realize there is no point in talking to you about this any further. I understand your right to delete my thread - so only your judgement is in question. Please feel free to remove me from your site. Thanks.
Pumbaa said:Hold up!
There is actually a city in Oklahoma named Midwest City?
Oklahoma isnt in the Midwest!!!
Yuri_Rage said:I'm glad this thread didn't get deleted. .
Dude said:Personally, I HATE deleting threads. I completely respect freedom of speech. However, political and religious threads will not stand here. I've never seen either of those two topics stay civil in 10+ years of surfing the internet.
I kept this one alive because I wanted to show an example of what not to do--specifically regarding PMs. The "P" in "Private" means exactly that--don't share it with parties that aren't part of the conversation between the PRIVATE messengers. It is rude and totally uncalled for.
In hindsight, I'm just really glad I was nice to him.
He got banned because he asked to be removed from the site. I'd have loved to have kept him around a while for you thugs to kick him around a bit. It's only been a few days since we've had an incident, I know ya'll were getting antsy.
Todd said:Dude,
While I agree these types of threads can turn ugly, I think it is also of use to have some of these topics brought to others attention. Maybe let the thread start then lock it before arguing starts??
Todd
Yuri_Rage said:I'm glad this thread didn't get deleted. Not because I like the political banter but because I now understand why another thread with MUCH more possibly inflammatory content was deleted. I HATED that other thread (entitled, "Please watch this..."), posted in it against my own better judgment, and now I'm glad it's dead. I have to agree that this forum is pretty damn civil, and it's almost TOO enjoyable - I spend WAY too much time here. Thanks, everyone, for making it so.
Ize said:It was everything I could do Monday night not to jump all over that thread. I literally had to get up and away from the computer. I don't freaking come here to get into politics. If I want to do that I'll go elsewhere. Leave the political agendas to the political boards.
Everyone has a right to say what they say and believe what they believe but there is a place for it. Stirring the pot at a site dedicated to brewing your own beer, (and drinking beer for that matter) is just a way of being a sh$% disturber. And if that's what someone is here to do, I have NO time for them.
End of rant.
Ize
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