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Old 02-11-2014, 04:34 PM   #581
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>>. Students will be required to utilize
previous knowledge in General and Organic chemistry to understand: chemistry of the
ingredients and products and the molecules involved in the biochemical processes.

I'm fine with that. I do think additional supplementary material would have greatly improved the course. And I still think the material is not as well presented as it should be.

I'm not asking for a baby course, but that the supplementary material be available. Maybe I'm asking for too much?
I don't think so, because I think there is demand there for a better course. I guess it would have to be longer, or require a lot more reading, so the students who aren't as knowledgeable about chemistry would have the background material to read and understand the course material.
I'm not terrifically impressed with the course yet...but then we haven't gotten to the actual "Chemistry of Beer" part of it yet. I did enjoy the brief relevant portions in the first lesson. I skipped over the second lesson entirely. And so far the third lesson is so simplified that a lot of it is "sort of true" to those of us that know something about brewing.

That said, I'm not sure that it makes sense to acknowledge that there is a prerequisite of biochemistry knowledge and then turn around and complain that the course doesn't address our not meeting the prerequisites. If you find that you are in fact not qualified to take the course (and I certainly am not!) and it matters to you then go and find the information that you need to fill the gaps. I wouldn't have expected a college course, intended to build on the student's previous knowledge, to do this for me. I think we, as brewers, are looking for something more or different out of the class than the "students of chemistry" it is more likely intended for.

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Old 02-11-2014, 04:36 PM   #582
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The ling looks GREAT, but when I click on the subjects it says:

File not found!
The URL you have loaded has not been found on this server.

Please alert the system administrator if you believe you have reached this in error.


Here's a better one: http://nhscience.lonestar.edu/biol/bio1int.htm
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Old 02-11-2014, 04:55 PM   #583
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Nice link!
Thank you very much

 
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Old 02-11-2014, 09:52 PM   #584
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That said, I'm not sure that it makes sense to acknowledge that there is a prerequisite of biochemistry knowledge and then turn around and complain that the course doesn't address our not meeting the prerequisites.
It's like people receiving food stamps complaining about purchasing restriction.

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If you find that you are in fact not qualified to take the course (and I certainly am not!) and it matters to you then go and find the information that you need to fill the gaps.
The youtube is full of information to fill in the gap.
I look for all the resources on line to help me with the course and worked out great.
Chemistry is not my background, English is not my primary language and I manage.

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Old 02-11-2014, 11:32 PM   #585
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It's like people receiving food stamps complaining about purchasing restriction.
Absolutely awesome!

 
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Old 02-11-2014, 11:43 PM   #586
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I like the course so far. I didn't have a strong chemistry background, so I struggled a bit in the first two tests, but I knew going in that was a big part of the course.
Some people just need to complain I guess.
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Old 02-12-2014, 07:47 PM   #587
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Unit 3 is way more interesting, but I still don't think I've learned anything that will help me with brewing. There's still a lot more to go, so maybe there will be some info that I can put to use.

 
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Old 02-13-2014, 03:10 AM   #588
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Got busy and bored with the class, so I didn't look at the materials for awhile. I just went in and did the second test (2 days late) and did better than I did on the first test! Then I took the practice for the lesson 3 after not reading anything and got 100%.

I agree with ncbrewer that I haven't learned anything that would make me a better brewer.
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I don't want to give away anything, but quiz 3 has one historically innacurate answer and one completely nonsenical question.
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Old 02-13-2014, 07:30 PM   #590
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I don't want to give away anything, but quiz 3 has one historically innacurate answer and one completely nonsenical question.
Liked because I love the word nonsensical.

Now I am going to check it out because I am curious.

 
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