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I don't know. Don't blame the players for fighting the 18-game season, not one bit. I don't want to see that as a fan. Just look at Green Bay, all the attrition that they went through just to get to the Super Bowl. The season's long enough as-is.

With the NFL maybe locking out and the NBA the same... I'm thinking it's time to start paying attention to what the Bruins are doing... :rolleyes:
 
screw the owners, man. bunch of whiners.

i'd really hate to see 18 game regular season as well. i would like to see 2 preseason games disappear tho.
 
olllllo said:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0iqLhdInGrk
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Thank you sir for that little piece of awesomeness :rockin:

The GB O-line deserves massive props for protecting Rodgers the way they did all night. They only ran the damn ball like 13 times. I was sure that if they didn't have a more balanced attack that Rodgers would be carted off (or stagger off) the field with another massive concussion. Instead, I don't think the Steelers vaunted D got ONE good lick on him. Incredible!!!
 
motobrewer said:
screw the owners, man. bunch of whiners.

i'd really hate to see 18 game regular season as well. i would like to see 2 preseason games disappear tho.
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There are some unintended consequences for losing those preseason games. As a football fan, they're essentially meaningless. But, those are pretty damn important for some of those end-of-the-roster types, the players who might have been drafted late or who came to camp as undrafted free agents. Lots of those guys get cut, obviously; it's a chance for them to be on tape so another team has something besides their college games to evaluate.

Isn't the logical answer, the logical compromise, to replace one preseason game with one regular season game? Do 3 preseason/17 regular season?
 
motobrewer said:
screw the owners, man. bunch of whiners.

i'd really hate to see 18 game regular season as well. i would like to see 2 preseason games disappear tho.
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Shockingly I completely disagree with Moto....

I am 100000000% in the camp of... if the players don't like they are more than welcome to quit and go do some other job. No one is pointing a gun at Tom Brady's head and MAKING him play QB for the Patriots. It is one of the beautiful things about living in a free country. This isn't China... we don't MAKE you play football. If you don't like the rules or the "company you work for"... great... quit.... just like every other person in the country can do.

Personally... I don't really care for the 18 game schedule but if that's what the owners want... have at it... that is why they are OWNERS... they OWN the league. Again, if the players don't like it, they should quit and go do something else.
 
i don't think you need 4 games to evaluate a player. obviously, the owners would never just eliminate 2 games, it'd either be replace with regular season or leave it as-is.

yeah, 3/17 is a compromise, but it just seems like delaying the inevitable. the biggest thing now is the owners aren't willing to pro-rate the players for the extra game, which is the biggest pile of crap in this whole thing. play two more football games for the same pay.

i mean, the packers played 20 football games this year. that's enough.
 
Cape Brewing said:
Shockingly I completely disagree with Moto....

I am 100000000% in the camp of... if the players don't like they are more than welcome to quit and go do some other job. No one is pointing a gun at Tom Brady's head and MAKING him play QB for the Patriots. It is one of the beautiful things about living in a free country. This isn't China... we don't MAKE you play football. If you don't like the rules or the "company you work for"... great... quit.... just like every other person in the country can do.

Personally... I don't really care for the 18 game schedule but if that's what the owners want... have at it... that is why they are OWNERS... they OWN the league. Again, if the players don't like it, they should quit and go do something else.
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the owners own the TEAM, not the "league". they shouldn't have 100% influence on the way the game is played.

you're saying steel CEO's get to force workers into 60 hour work weeks because they own the company.
 
I would hate and love an 18 game season. I'd love 2 more weeks of real football. I'd hate to see more of my favorite players go down with serious or career-ending injuries. And quitting isn't as easy as it sounds. Ask Barry Sanders.
 
i found a manila folder in my file cabinet
labeled RTM
it had a single piece of paper in it that was related to another project
i have no clue what RTM means

oh, cape, i figured out what you did. you made the assumption that 2010 + 1 = 1921. a common mistake.

anyway, packers weren't that bad at rushing last night. it was strange to see McCarthy of all people basically abandon the run in the second half.
 
Did anyone else notice Joe Buck declaring that Woodson is slow getting up before the play even ended? I'm going to have to replay my dvr copy but, I swear Woodson was still in the process of hitting the turf when he said that.

It seemed really weird.
 
olllllo said:
Did anyone else notice Joe Buck declaring that Woodson is slow getting up before the play even ended? I'm going to have to replay my dvr copy but, I swear Woodson was still in the process of hitting the turf when he said that.

It seemed really weird.
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yes, i did notice that. he was still rolling on the ground when he said it, i thought to myself, give him a chance to come to a stop...
 
motobrewer said:
the owners own the TEAM, not the "league". they shouldn't have 100% influence on the way the game is played.

you're saying steel CEO's get to force workers into 60 hour work weeks because they own the company.
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Exactly... no one in the US is FORCED to do ANY job. This is at the most basic level of capitalism. If a company requires workers to work for 60 hours, no workers should work there. Over time, that company won't be able to staff its operations and they will have to lower their required hours.

If you don't like working 60 hours... don't work there.

And yes... they do own the league. They collectively OWN the league.
 
Cape Brewing said:
Over time, that company won't be able to staff its operations and they will have to lower their required hours.
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lol, wrong. Just like what's going on in China, right? all those manufacturing places are going under because they have sh*tty working conditions and long hours so nobody's working there :rolleyes:

over time, people will continue to work there, because its better than nothing. which is why the union exists.
 
I'm all for the 18 game schedule and less preseason games. The evaluation thing about fringe players is crap. First of all, who cares if they get tape. What is more important is not having the first 4 games of the season look bad becasue guys haven't had enough time together. We see that already in the NFL though. But that is also becasue essentially the starters don't play 4 preseason games currently, maybe 2.5. The roster would have to expand as well, I dunno by how much, but I think that is a good thing too.
Of course they are going to have to pay the players extra.
 
whatever... not debating this in this thread.

you wanna spew socialist "boo hooo everyone feel bad for the workers" garbage, start a thread in the debate section.

In terms of the NFL... EFF the players. If they don't like the rules or working for the NFL, they are more than welcome to stop collecting those paychecks and go do something else.
 
Cape Brewing said:
whatever... not debating this in this thread.

you wanna spew socialist "boo hooo everyone feel bad for the workers" garbage, start a thread in the debate section.

In terms of the NFL... EFF the players. If they don't like the rules or working for the NFL, they are more than welcome to stop collecting those paychecks and go do something else.
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I'm torn here Cape...on one hand I agree that we need to get back to the power of the free market. At the same time, we have already fought this battle in this country because employers in general (not saying there aren't exceptions) will screw their employees any way they can to squeeze a few more cents of profit. That inherent greed in human nature is why we had to install protections for workers like child labor laws, 40 hr work week, safe working conditions, and the right to bargain as a collective to increase power (CBA). The ideal of laissez faire is great. The reality is that people were dying by the thousands at one point in our history in mills, mines, and factories and they had the right to deal with it or starve...their ideals weren't going to feed their families.

That said, I have ZERO sympathy for EITHER side of this argument as it pertains to professional athletes in general and the NFL in particular. The players make loads of money compared to the rest of us common folk. If they can't figure out how to make 2-15 years of 6-7 figure income last longer than a lambo and child support, F&%$ THEM.

And the owners whining that they aren't making enough is ridiculous. You can't establish the precedent of out of control contracts then all of a sudden try to close the floodgates. If you want 18 games, pay for them. If you don't want to pay for them, play 16 games. Start restructuring contracts to be more realistic from this part forward, but you can't change what is done. Especially where it comes to unproven rookies. They should get a league minimum for a year subject to increase based on actual time on the field and contribution to the team. Guys who need several years to develop get to collect fat but not ridiculous checks for a year or two (or forever if they just don't pan out). Guys like Suh and Bradford get paid up because they played and made a significant impact right away.
 
fine, but its hardly socalist. get out of boston once and see how bad people have it. go visit the steel factories in china and see people welding with freakin saran wrap as a welding hood.

saying that the players, the people actually playing the freaking game, should have no say whatsoever in the way the game is played is so freaking mind-numbing elitist its just laughable.
 
TANSTAAFB said:
one point in our history
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Exactly... this isn't 1840 and we're not paying immigrants a penny a week to drive railroad spikes until they die.


TANSTAAFB said:
we had to install protections for workers like child labor laws, 40 hr work week, safe working conditions, and the right to bargain as a collective to increase power (CBA).
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Again... exactly... we have laws in place (work environment safety laws so we don't have "welders using saran wrap for sheilds", minimum wages, child labor laws, etc) to make sure those abuses are kept in check. Like I was kinda saying before... I think it is great that China is a really bad place to work but here's the slight difference... We're not China.

TANSTAAFB said:
The ideal of laissez faire is great.
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Not suggesting laissez faire... I'm saying I believe in a capitalist system that has a level of governmental controls that the people democratically enact (min. wage, safe work environment, etc. etc.)


Again... this is a debate for the debate forum.
 
Cape Brewing said:
Again... this is a debate for the debate forum.
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Hey, I took it back to football!!! But you are right, this is not the place.

My point is the CBA is one of those protections you seem to agree with (BTW, you DO come off as an elitist when you don't qualify your position with all those things you just agreed with and throw around words like socialist in reference to said protections...), and the players are using their collective strength to fight for what they think is fair and the owners will use their collective strength to push back. Man I LOVE America!!!

I think as soon as they realize that a lock out will cost both sides WAY more than either side can reasonably expect to gain, they will get this done. If they insist on being idiots and allow a lock out, they will lose a lot more than just the ticket sales as NFL fans become disillusioned w/ two groups of millionaires arguing and no football on their tvs.
 
Cape Brewing said:
Exactly... this isn't 1840 and we're not paying immigrants a penny a week to drive railroad spikes until they die.




Again... exactly... we have laws in place (work environment safety laws so we don't have "welders using saran wrap for sheilds", minimum wages, child labor laws, etc) to make sure those abuses are kept in check. Like I was kinda saying before... I think it is great that China is a really bad place to work but here's the slight difference... We're not China.



Not suggesting laissez faire... I'm saying I believe in a capitalist system that has a level of governmental controls that the people democratically enact (min. wage, safe work environment, etc. etc.)


Again... this is a debate for the debate forum.
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yes, exactly, i agree with most of this, but you seem to think the owners should know what's best for the players, and I think the players know best.

do players have any "laws in place" to protect them from anything? what if the owners wanted a 30 game season?
 
mmmmmhmmm

i see what you did, moved over where I can't go so you can't get thwarted by my extreme internet wisdom.
 
OK, **** this labor-law talk (and I'm mostly going to disagree with you, Cape, but **** it, I don't really care).

Anyone notice that Christina Aguilera ****ed up the national anthem last night? I wasn't listening at the time, I was running around getting food ready, but you'd think that you'd try and get the lyrics memorized ahead of time, right?

As you can see from the below video, Aguilera missed the line “O’er the ramparts we watched, were so gallantly streaming,” instead improvising, “What so proudly we watched at the twilight’s last reaming”—turning a song about strength in the face of adversity into a perverted celebration of the evening being anally violated.
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uhh... yeah... I'm dodging your dizzing intellect.

I had NO comeback at all for your "We're all gonna use saran wrap for welding sheilds!!" prophecy.

why the &%*( can't you get into the debate forum?
 
Cape Brewing said:
"twilights last reaming"... that's tremedous!!!

Who was the last one to get reamed right before twilight ended???
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LOL I don't know but Roseanne Barr got seriously bood at the All-Star game one year. She got kinda reamed before the end of the song. And deservedly so. And this one sucked too..........
 
Here's the video.



Should have taken the over on this, too; think she clocked in at 1:55 (o/u was 1:50), and the last note she held for 12 seconds (o/u was 6).
 
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yeah, she f-ed up, is that surprising?

aside from the game, I thought it was a crappy superbowl production. halftime sucked, anthem sucked, commercials sucked. but whatever.
 
hey, this wasn't just something I saw on animal planet, my dad was over there a few times this year inspecting steel mills and he said it's just awful.

yeah, i should really pony up...not happening this month tho. freakin daycare is killing us....AND they charged us for when THEY closed during the snow day last week. wtf!?

plus, how would i know about "Detroit coupons"??
 

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