Wyeast 1217-PC West Coast IPA source?

[couchsending]

@bierhaus15 Thanks for the info. I've probably gotten more useful info on yeast from you than
any other resource.

 

[skw]

Stone makes some unfiltered beers. Why not drink the beer and step up the dregs? http://www.stonebrewing.com/beer/stone-seasonals/stone-vengeful-spirit-ipa

To my knowledge, even the "filtered" Stone beers aren't filtered but merely centrifuged. I (believe that I) isolated yeast from a regular bottle of Stone beer on a malt agar petri dish and grew it to pitching size. I did a side-by-side with WY1217 (as far as my basement brewery permits, so no guarantees about perfectly equal pitching and aeration rates) and concluded that they're the same strain. The Stone yeast tatest more assertive to me, 1217 is more subtle.

To me, 1217 is like somebody fixed what's wrong with Nottingham. It's a reliable dry ale yeast with a little esters, but lacks the tart aftertaste that I got from Nottingham. I never got the "Chico" peach that I think I can taste in US-05.

That said, I've been repitching (overbuilt starter) a 1217 culture for what must be two years now at least and am hereby declaring it my de-facto house strain.

 

[skw]

1217 is coming back as private collection strain in January. If anyone needs a recipe to get started with, I just posted my everyday IPA here:
https://www.homebrewtalk.com/forum/threads/stefans-every-day-ipa.660232/