Wyeast 1007

[rhys333]

whatever works for you. I haven't found that to be the case for me.

I'm usually fine too, but occasionally i can pick up slight rawness in my kegged beers. When I say slight, I mean minuscule. But I usually bottle a half gallon of each batch and I find them to be noticeably better. I could well be wrong, but I attribute this to being off the yeast and warm conditioned for a few weeks prior to chilling.

 

[rhys333]

Well, I brewed a 5.5 gal 1.050 batch on Sunday and planned to try fermenting on the lower end of the range. I didn't make a starter so I wasn't surprised when it hadn't started by Monday night. I warmed it from 57F to about 62F and this morning (Tuesday) it is popping away happily. Something tells me I'm going to like this yeast.

 

[Immocles]

I’ve only used it once, and I bottle lagered most of that particular brew but 1007 is going to be more regularly featured in my house I think. I had concerns myself but let it rip at 60 for three weeks and loved the results. I believe it was still slightly cloudy when I bottled, but it dropped very clear soon after that. After a couple weeks in the fridge, it was clear as glass.

 

[dmtaylor]

1007 is an outstanding yeast. Wins awards 'n' stuff. As an easier alternative, try K-97. It's either identical or damn near.

 

[Denny]

1007 is an outstanding yeast. Wins awards 'n' stuff. As an easier alternative, try K-97. It's either identical or damn near.

I don't feel like it's identical, but definitely in the ballpark

 

[rhys333]

Well, I brewed a 5.5 gal 1.050 batch on Sunday and planned to try fermenting on the lower end of the range. I didn't make a starter so I wasn't surprised when it hadn't started by Monday night. I warmed it from 57F to about 62F and this morning (Tuesday) it is popping away happily. Something tells me I'm going to like this yeast.

Holy smokes it works fast!

Less than 48 hours in, it's flatlined and possibly done. As of Wednesday night around 11pm the krausen was dropping out. This is with no starter and a starting temp of 62F, climbing to 66F by the end. I'm impressed!

 

[rhys333]

Only one day on gas and cloudy AF, but she makes a damn good wheat beer. 13 day turn-around and I probably could've packaged sooner but I didn't want to risk a naff batch seeing how I had nothing else on tap.

 

[rhys333]

And carbed...

 

[Immocles]

1007 is an outstanding yeast. Wins awards 'n' stuff. As an easier alternative, try K-97. It's either identical or damn near.

Thanks for the post an alternative!
I have a recipe that I planned on using 1007 for in the near future, but my LHBS doesn't carry Wyeast. Do you know if WLP029 the white labs equivalent? I know they carry that particular yeast. Not sure on the K-97.

 

[Denny]

Thanks for the post an alternative!
I have a recipe that I planned on using 1007 for in the near future, but my LHBS doesn't carry Wyeast. Do you know if WLP029 the white labs equivalent? I know they carry that particular yeast. Not sure on the K-97.

029 is entirely different from 1007. Not as crisp and clean.

 

[Immocles]

029 is entirely different from 1007. Not as crisp and clean.

Bummer. Any other suggestions? Their inventory is pretty limited, but I know 029 is stocked. I can resort to ordering online, just like throwing them a little extra business on occasion

 

[dmtaylor]

Thanks for the post an alternative!
I have a recipe that I planned on using 1007 for in the near future, but my LHBS doesn't carry Wyeast. Do you know if WLP029 the white labs equivalent? I know they carry that particular yeast. Not sure on the K-97.

WLP029 is no relation to 1007 at all. WLP029 is actually a lager yeast (Sacch. pastorianus) that performs well at warmer temperatures but even so it is still slightly fruity. 1007 is a true ale (S. cerevisiae) yeast and almost identical to K-97. The closest to 1007 that you can get in a White Labs product is probably WLP003 German Ale II. Mangrove Jack M54 Californian "Lager" is also probably equivalent. MUCH more info:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/16XRUloO3WXqH9Ixsf5vx2DIKDmrEQJ36tLRBmmya7Jo/edit?usp=sharing

 

[Immocles]

That’s a fantastic link, thank you!

 

[couchsending]

Bummer. Any other suggestions? Their inventory is pretty limited, but I know 029 is stocked. I can resort to ordering online, just like throwing them a little extra business on occasion

do they carry dry yeast?

As has been mentioned k-97 from Fermentis is genetically basically the and yeast.

what’s the recipe? What type of beer.

 

[Immocles]

I'm definitely looking into the dry yeast. They do have some, but i'm unsure as to what types. They're definitely more of a wine place, but carry the very basics for beers as well.

I brew in series, and with the season. Also not much for following any real styles most of the time. I think with my next brew, I will be wrapping up my actual lager possibilities. I buy a new pack, then repitch slurry 1-2 more times. My plan was to brew up a really basic low abv "lager" type recipe with 2 row and some flaked corn to appease the father in law (but mostly to build up the yeast). Then repitch the slurry into a mid range mocktoberfest beer (roughly 40% pilsner, 40% Vienna, 20% Munich, minus a few % to make room for some small amounts of specialty malts) that I made and loved last fall, then finally a big dunkel type. Dunkel has yet to be created.

All else fails, I can grab 34/70 and test out the whole warm fermenting business. I'm limited in lager experience, but been fermenting them on the cold side. I'll lose that ability as spring approaches

Side note, i'm surprised that 029 is lager strain, while 1007 is ale. I'd have figured they were the other way around, based on my experiences with them.

 

[Denny]

do they carry dry yeast?

As has been mentioned k-97 from Fermentis is genetically basically the and yeast.

what’s the recipe? What type of beer.

Maybe genetically the same, but different results in practice

 

[Denny]

Thanks for the post an alternative!
I have a recipe that I planned on using 1007 for in the near future, but my LHBS doesn't carry Wyeast. Do you know if WLP029 the white labs equivalent? I know they carry that particular yeast. Not sure on the K-97.

I have made award winning alt with 1056.. Vert clean, ferments low. I have one fermenting with WY1728 at 55F right now and it's tasting great.

 

[CircaChris]

Thanks for the post an alternative!
I have a recipe that I planned on using 1007 for in the near future, but my LHBS doesn't carry Wyeast. Do you know if WLP029 the white labs equivalent? I know they carry that particular yeast. Not sure on the K-97.

WLP036 is supposed to be the equivalent, as it is a Dusseldorf Alt yeast. Other suggest there may be differences and that it may not atttenuate as well leaving a breadier, maltier finish.

 

[couchsending]

WLP036 is nothing like 1007. It’s actually more of a bread yeast than anything else.

Genetically WLP003 and K-97 are the closest available yeasts to 1007. 003 is never available though.

 

[rtstrider]

Just got a 2L starter going on the stir plate with 1007. I've had beers fermented with this yeast before but I've never knowingly used it myself. I'm brewing a simple Kolsch style ale and will be fermenting around 55F. Wanted to ferment it that low to see how it turns out. I have 4 full kegs in the kegerator so there's definitely time to ferment cold and lager this for a bit (plus gelatin of course). Depending on how this goes in the keg it may get a second dose of gelatin for giggles

 

[rtstrider]

It's been 9 days since pitch and this is almost done. There's a very slight acetylaldehyde twang in there but that's cleaning up nicely. I'll probably wait until Thursday or Friday, rack to secondary to get all the good beer out from under the thick krausen, and lager/gelatin for a week or so. Ordering a floating dip tube this weekend and kegs are still full so all I have on my hands is time to hurry up and wait lol

 

[Northern_Brewer]

Genetically WLP003 and K-97 are the closest available yeasts to 1007. 003 is never available though.

Just in case anyone's interested, WLP003 German II Ale is currently available on Yeastman (along with WLP022 Essex and WLP050 Tennessee Whiskey), so USians should be able to order it and non-USians should be able to ask a White Labs stockist to get it in.

 

[Northern_Brewer]

Just in case anyone's interested, WLP003 German II Ale is currently available on Yeastman

And again, along with WLP009 Australian, WLP077 Tropicale (their non-transgenic thiol releaser), WLP603 Torulaspora delbrueckii and WLP686 Zygosaccharomyces lentus, with WLP091 Best Coast and WLP561 Non STAison in production