Windows 10 - Finally some sanity

[GrogNerd]

here's me trying to install Windows 10



and then

 

[GilaMinumBeer]

Looks like something happened.

Did you try turning off and on again?

 

[Homercidal]

Even THEY don't know what their software is doing!

 

[GrogNerd]

Looks like something happened.

Did you try turning off and on again?

I had the wrong impression the PC needed the little Windows 10 app icon in the system tray to start installation, so I was fixated on that

I eventually got to a spot where I could download the installation package and was able to continue from there.

I installed it on an older laptop, which sits down in the basement. I don't normally use it, unless I'm waiting for the dog to come back inside, grilling or brewing, so I haven't dug into it very deeply.

so far I'm not too impressed, it's not very different from what I'm used to in Win7, but I'll withhold judgment until I dook around with it some more

hate the Internet Explorer replacement, Microsoft Edge

I like having my bookmarks underneath the address bar, 2 of my links are from the top of HBT "My Replies" and "Today's Posts"

bookmarks in Edge are hidden away in a side bar and the 2 links I've made of those HBT links BOTH take me to this page:

 

[GilaMinumBeer]

tl;dr

I have yet to install because of taskbar icon fixation. clicked the window last night and was greeted with an "It's coming, please wait" message. Assumed they are staging downloads to reduce traffic.

Have since heard that the update can be forced via Windows Update.

I need to move applications off of my SSD to make room. A drudgery I am not looking forward to. When I got the SSD I opted to just clone the OS from the original HDD.

I miss the days of being able to move a directory and repair the OS. Now you have to uninstall, redownload, and reinstall to change the directory to something other than default without breaking the OS.

Unless I am mistaken.

 

[BigFloppy]

Wife's Dell i5 was one of the initially targeted machines for taskbar installation - got notification last night at 9pm - Started the install and 2 hours later had a fully functional Winderz 10

I LIKE IT - best of 7 and 8

my 2 cents worth

 

[passedpawn]

I'll be updating this wkend. Can't tolerate an f-ed up computer that I do work on during the week.

 

[hoppyhoppyhippo]

Just put it on my Surface Pro 2, will comment at some point. I haven't seen anything to separate it from 8. New Browser is way better but I'll stick with Chrome. I find the new taskbar to be a bit of an eyesore. I mean the search inclusion is fine, but why does it need to be so big? Why can't it be small and grow when you click on it?

 

[plan_ahea]

and then

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I had this problem too. Turns out it was because my language settings were set to English (Canada). Once I switched them to English (United States), the installation went off without a hitch. I plan on doing a clean install after the weekend.

To change language settings:
Control Panel > Region & Language > Administrative > Change system locale

 

[GilaMinumBeer]

Just put it on my Surface Pro 2, will comment at some point. I haven't seen anything to separate it from 8. New Browser is way better but I'll stick with Chrome. I find the new taskbar to be a bit of an eyesore. I mean the search inclusion is fine, but why does it need to be so big? Why can't it be small and grow when you click on it?

Taskbar Autohide has been a bug for some users since WinXp.

IIUC, the option is there in Win10 but is bugged for some.

 

[pointcity-homebrew]

I am going to give it a whirl, get a free license through the university.

 

[hoppyhoppyhippo]

I had the wrong impression the PC needed the little Windows 10 app icon in the system tray to start installation, so I was fixated on that

I eventually got to a spot where I could download the installation package and was able to continue from there.

I installed it on an older laptop, which sits down in the basement. I don't normally use it, unless I'm waiting for the dog to come back inside, grilling or brewing, so I haven't dug into it very deeply.

so far I'm not too impressed, it's not very different from what I'm used to in Win7, but I'll withhold judgment until I dook around with it some more

hate the Internet Explorer replacement, Microsoft Edge

I like having my bookmarks underneath the address bar, 2 of my links are from the top of HBT "My Replies" and "Today's Posts"

bookmarks in Edge are hidden away in a side bar and the 2 links I've made of those HBT links BOTH take me to this page:

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You can re-enable the favorites toolbar in Edge under settings.

 

[hoppyhoppyhippo]

Taskbar Autohide has been a bug for some users since WinXp.

IIUC, the option is there in Win10 but is bugged for some.

I don't really want it hidden. I want it to look like Windows 8.

\instead of having a third of the taskbar taken up by search the web and windows, I'd rather have the icons for my programs I want tand then all the way to the right by the quick access thing or whatever it's called now. have a magnifying glass that when you mouse over it, it expands.

 

[GilaMinumBeer]

I don't really want it hidden. I want it to look like Windows 8.

\instead of having a third of the taskbar taken up by search the web and windows, I'd rather have the icons for my programs I want tand then all the way to the right by the quick access thing or whatever it's called now. have a magnifying glass that when you mouse over it, it expands.

Ahh. I understand.

Rub some bacon on it!

I have also read that the taskbar and start menu are resizable as well as undockable in Win10. Maybe play with it a while. Just don't let the kids watch. I remember having to dig to find options for the taskbar in Win7. I am sure there are options in Win10.

 

[hoppyhoppyhippo]

Ahh. I understand.

Rub some bacon on it!

I have also read that the taskbar and start menu are resizable as well as undockable in Win10. Maybe play with it a while. Just don't let the kids watch. I remember having to dig to find options for the taskbar in Win7. I am sure there are options in Win10.

I figured out how to minimize it to an icon. But moving it to where I want it doesn't seem to be an option. I'm debating on removing it because I have a search button on my keyboard.

 

[GrogNerd]

You can re-enable the favorites toolbar in Edge under settings.

must have overlooked that one.

MUCH better now, thanks!

 

[hoppyhoppyhippo]

must have overlooked that one.

MUCH better now, thanks!

This is what us nerds are for. I'm home with the parents for a week and aside from setting them up with new computers, I also had to run a full VR on my dads comp because he downloaded his AV from a suspect source (and probably was doing other things he shouldn't have been doing online)

 

[DrunkleJon]

Just put it on my Surface Pro 2, will comment at some point. I haven't seen anything to separate it from 8. New Browser is way better but I'll stick with Chrome. I find the new taskbar to be a bit of an eyesore. I mean the search inclusion is fine, but why does it need to be so big? Why can't it be small and grow when you click on it?

Heh heh. I see what you did there...

 

[CreamyGoodness]

Linux.

That is all.

Oh go compile your kernel.




I always wanted to say that.

 

[doug293cz]

Oh go compile your kernel.

I always wanted to say that.

Only hardcore geeks compile their own kernels. I've been using Linux for years, and have yet to compile a kernel.

Brew on

 

[Homercidal]

Only hardcore geeks compile their own kernels. I've been using Linux for years, and have yet to compile a kernel.

Brew on

I know that guy. He's not THAT hardcore, but he's been using Linux since almost it was brand new. He's still into Slackware and compiling his kernels.

It's just a bit beyond my understanding. I can build a simple server easily enough in a non-gui installation, and can do some relatively simple things, but when it comes to getting all the pieces to work together PROPERLY and SECURELY, there aren't too many How-To's that explain how things work.

They do make several flavors that are easy enough for the average user to install and use, though. Unless there is a problem they tend to run pretty well.

I guess it's time for companies to start throwing their "We don't support Windows 10 yet!" comments out to the clients. Hopefully this is more of an upgrade to Windows 7/8 than a new architecture. I'm hoping it will come down to mostly testing to ensure compatibility rather than having to rebuild their software.

 

[CreamyGoodness]

Can anyone walk me through the process of getting windows 10? I have 7.

 

[Homercidal]

Go to Microsoft.com. They have the information.

But don't use Internet Explorer 10. It doesn't work right on IE 10.

I had to use Firefox to get it to render the page properly...

One of the recent updates should give you an upgrade app that resides in your tray. You can also download USB or DVD installation files and a utility to write to those devices to make a bootable install media.

I'm not clear on the Reg Code thing yet. I haven't found the sign up link yet.

 

[brew_ny]

Micro$oft sanity ? that is bad as Micro$oft Works

oxymoron ?

but I do need to send a shout out to the folks in Redmond

thanks you all for keeping me working and making great money

 

[GilaMinumBeer]

Go to Microsoft.com. They have the information.

But don't use Internet Explorer 10. It doesn't work right on IE 10.

I had to use Firefox to get it to render the page properly...

One of the recent updates should give you an upgrade app that resides in your tray. You can also download USB or DVD installation files and a utility to write to those devices to make a bootable install media.

I'm not clear on the Reg Code thing yet. I haven't found the sign up link yet.

NOTHING works properly on IE10.

 

[Homercidal]

NOTHING works properly on IE10.

That's true. I haven't used IE since forever, unless some company requires it for their portal to function properly. Lately they are starting to recommend Chrome or FF, though!

I was unable to get the APP to show up, even though I check their requirements and my OEM Dell PC is fully licensed and updated. I checked their required updates specifically.

And now I read that you DON'T have to reserve if you just use the media creation tool I mentioned previously. As long as you have a valid reg code for Win7 you can use that tool to create install media and upgrade.

So I should be all set and don't' have to wait.

 

[GilaMinumBeer]

That's true. I haven't used IE since forever, unless some company requires it for their portal to function properly. Lately they are starting to recommend Chrome or FF, though!

I was unable to get the APP to show up, even though I check their requirements and my OEM Dell PC is fully licensed and updated. I checked their required updates specifically.

And now I read that you DON'T have to reserve if you just use the media creation tool I mentioned previously. As long as you have a valid reg code for Win7 you can use that tool to create install media and upgrade.

So I should be all set and don't' have to wait.

I'm screwed. The Win8.1 I have was a pre-load. checked for updates and 10 didn't list. Didn't feel like messing with registry to force. It's okay I can wait. I reserved the day the notice showed up.

Dinked with clearing up space on the SSD for a while and then went and played Witcher3.

 

[Homercidal]

I'm screwed. The Win8.1 I have was a pre-load. checked for updates and 10 didn't list. Didn't feel like messing with registry to force. It's okay I can wait. I reserved the day the notice showed up.

Dinked with clearing up space on the SSD for a while and then went and played Witcher3.

You can still download the files and the media creator to make an install disk. I'm not sure a domain PC is upgradable at this point, but anything else should be as long as you have a valid licensed install now.

Windows 10 Media Creation Tool

 

[GilaMinumBeer]

You can still download the files and the media creator to make an install disk. I'm not sure a domain PC is upgradable at this point, but anything else should be as long as you have a valid licensed install now.

Windows 10 Media Creation Tool

Will give it a try when I get home. Still working on moving a few more apps. Couldn't find where I left my keys. That is another irritation. Once a software is licensed and activated the keys should be listed in the info/about tabs. Period!

I got Office 2013 Pro Plus through Home Use Program and took me forever to track down links to find the key.

 

[Homercidal]

Magic Jellybean Keyfinder does a decent job on some MS products. Not sure about the newest OS and Office but I've used it for years to get the ORIGINAL keys from machines when re-installing. Since then I've kept software discs and license codes in a binder so I can match the Service code for a machine to it's License codes.

UPDATE: I tried installing from a reboot so I can completely wipe the Windows 7 install, and it won't take my code from the sticker on my Dell for Windows 7 Ultimate. I know this is a valid installation so I'm trying the UPGRADE process now. I'll be irked if they won't let us do a clean install without an actual Windows 10 code.