Windows 10 - Finally some sanity

[Homercidal]

I don't have an issue with Microsoft using P2P to move updates etc to clients. P2P it is so efficient.

Yes, it's good for a lot of people. Some people don't' want their computer uploading to others and "stealing" their bandwidth (While they happily suck files from other computers...)

I'm pretty sure several of my games use torrent to update content. Runs VERY fast after a certain number of people get their seeding up.

I have always thought of converting to linux, I am now at the point where my xp desktop is now a music machine in the garage. Curious how the transition is to linux.

If you are interested in trying Linux, and have little experience, maybe try Mint. I've heard it's the most user-friendly distro out there for Windows users. I haven't tried it myself yet, but I might dual-boot this workstation and see what it's like. I'd honestly be fine running either OS for day-to-day stuff, but I have to have Window available sometimes.

I *should* look into a Virtual Machine solution.

 

[GilaMinumBeer]

Yes, it's good for a lot of people. Some people don't' want their computer uploading to others and "stealing" their bandwidth (While they happily suck files from other computers...)

I'm fine with torrent style updates, so long as my own network isn't affected. Had several devices take a laggy nosedive on my network. Once I turned the torrent feature off all went back to normal.

 

[GilaMinumBeer]

And WTF is it with Microsoft and the fvcking power/user login location.

Do they not feel they have properly innovated a new OS unless the move that damned thing to a different corner than the last OS?

Lower left is reasonable and expected. Just like XP and the OS before it. I even got used to it being on the upper right in Win8.1.

**** all if the top left corner isn't just weird. Takes me a bit to remember it each time. I naturally go to the left first. But the lower left.

 

[sablesurfer]

And WTF is it with Microsoft and the fvcking power/user login location.

Do they not feel they have properly innovated a new OS unless the move that damned thing to a different corner than the last OS?

Lower left is reasonable and expected. Just like XP and the OS before it. I even got used to it being on the upper right in Win8.1.

**** all if the top left corner isn't just weird. Takes me a bit to remember it each time. I naturally go to the left first. But the lower left.

Just think, someone probably earned a bonus for that suggestion....sigh.

 

[Homercidal]

I ended up trying Linux Mint yesterday. I loaded it in a Virtualbox in Windows 10 (not technically supported yet, but supposed to be useable at this time) and it seemed pretty decent. I didn't like the graphics driver being virtual. I think it made the interface feel gummy, but that could have been my imagination.

I shrunk the Windows partition and installed Mint into the freespace. I have the bootloader for Mint giving me the option of which OS to run, so I can use either one if I feel like it.

Surprisingly, Mint had recent drivers for the video already, I only had to choose it from a list. It also easily loaded useful drivers for the HP color laser down the hall. this may be the first Linux I've used that handled printer drivers that easily.

I haven't really gotten into it, but so far I am happy to report that admin things seem easy to find and use. I watched half an episode of Titansgrave in Firefox while messing with things.

Still not a huge fan of the feel of the mouse cursor doing some things, but I 'd probably get used to it over a little time. Mint seems to emulate Windows more than the other distros I've used.

 

[GilaMinumBeer]

Just think, someone probably earned a bonus for that suggestion....sigh.

Not sure why top left is so weird either.

 

[Homercidal]

Not sure why top left is so weird either.

Heard at design engineer meeting...

"New version coming out soon, anyone give any thought about where to put the admin login?"

"Sorry, I've been busy working with our ad providers to spend any time on it."

"Nope. Does it matter?"

"Jeremy?"

"Jeremy isn't here. He's still sulking about bringing back the desktop."

"Nobody? Ok, well then, Tina just shove it in a corner somewhere. Just make sure it's not the same corner as last time. We need this interface to be different so people don't think they're buying the same old OS..."

 

[GilaMinumBeer]

Ha. That is somewhat how I imagined it. Mine was more,

"Okay we copied Win7 for the majority of this build, and we copied Win8.1 for the majority if the GUI. It's time get innovative people! We need something different, and fresh. Lets hear it."

"I don't think we've put the admin login in the top left corner yet."

 

[sablesurfer]

Titansgrave! ooops....OT.

 

[GilaMinumBeer]

I do love the broad integration of Win10 with almost everything but I am also still getting used to the PIN login option. Definitely makes it easier for the boys.

Except, we forgot his PIN the other day. After a few guesses we got back in but had also opened the garage door, disarmed the alarm on the car, and reset the time on the microwave.

 

[kh54s10]

I have Win10 installed and don't see what all the fuss is about. It looks a little different but doesn't seem significantly different than Win8......

Still poking around though.. Cortana seems to be popping up in response to the TV though, saying "I did not understand that?"

 

[Homercidal]

Yep. Looking forward to the day when my computer can keep track of what's still good to eat in the fridge. Cause, I gotta tell you, my WIFE isn't so good at it.

"Cortana, how old is the ground bologna?"
"Master, the Ground Bologna is 4 days past expiration."
"Close enough!"

 

[GilaMinumBeer]

I have Win10 installed and don't see what all the fuss is about. It looks a little different but doesn't seem significantly different than Win8......

Still poking around though.. Cortana seems to be popping up in response to the TV though, saying "I did not understand that?"

"She" will do that until she learns those who moles, I mean use her.

"She" would have been sooooo much more interesting if they used her Halo likeness.

You can also set her to focus only on your voice. IIRC, there is a small training excercise once the feature is turned on.

And Win10 isn't drastically different than Win8.1, except they moved everything, again.

 

[kh54s10]

And Win10 isn't drastically different than Win8.1, except they moved everything, again.

I really didn't have much of a problem with Win8.x since most of my use was to log on then open Chome to surf the internet or use programs through it.

I did very little directly in Win8.x

 

[GilaMinumBeer]

I really didn't have much of a problem with Win8.x since most of my use was to log on then open Chome to surf the internet or use programs through it.

I did very little directly in Win8.x

My only real issue with Win8.0 was tile functionality. To me, it is ridiculous to require an account to make a calendar functional. What's more, had to have 2 accounts to make the mail app functional. WTF?

 

[kh54s10]

My only real issue with Win8.0 was tile functionality. To me, it is ridiculous to require an account to make a calendar functional. What's more, had to have 2 accounts to make the mail app functional. WTF?

I don't remember these issues. If I encountered them during setup I must have just followed the instructions. I don't think I used the calendar.

 

[sablesurfer]

So wait, Cortina is some kind of voice response system?

Is it ANYTHING like the Samsung debacle where the system was constantly listening and then reporting back to a server?? Is ALL of cortina stored on your machine or does she have to interact with the cloud to share EVERYTHING you say to get answers?

I had not heard of this bit yet.

 

[GilaMinumBeer]

I don't remember these issues. If I encountered them during setup I must have just followed the instructions. I don't think I used the calendar.

I initially tried to run Win8 with just a local account. When the time came that I opened the calendar i was met with the screen for a Microsoft Account. Blew that off. I do have a calendar on the wall. then when I got to where I was ready to set-up the email app, I was again met with the need for a MS Account.

 

[GilaMinumBeer]

So wait, Cortina is some kind of voice response system?

Is it ANYTHING like the Samsung debacle where the system was constantly listening and then reporting back to a server?? Is ALL of cortina stored on your machine or does she have to interact with the cloud to share EVERYTHING you say to get answers?

I had not heard of this bit yet.

Yes? Akin to Siri for Apple. she can search both local and iNet, schedule appointments, run applications, take dictations, etc...

And yes, if Cortana is on, she is listening. I am uncertain how much of her AI is local or cloud based.

I have her turned on (giggity) and just stuff cotton in her ears. (unplug the mic). My children LOVE the functionality. And she can be sassy at times.

 

[Paps]

SPYNET is now activated/live...

With the N.S.A. actively monitoring things such as cell phone activity to you think for one second that they will not pounce on the opportunity this system affords them to watch your daily activity (as boring as that may or may not be)

just seems a bit too 1984`ish to me

 

[GilaMinumBeer]

SPYNET is now activated/live...

With the N.S.A. actively monitoring things such as cell phone activity to you think for one second that they will not pounce on the opportunity this system affords them to watch your daily activity (as boring as that may or may not be)

just seems a bit too 1984`ish to me

Not sure if the built in keylogger was removed after the tech review or not, what difference does audio make? Between Xbox Hal's ever seeing eye and Win10 keystroke logger, Cortana's ever hearing ear has the least interesting content.

 

[DrunkleJon]

I dunno, just wait until she starts blackmailing you with audio clips of your late night... research sessions paired with your web history.

 

[GilaMinumBeer]

I dunno, just wait until she starts blackmailing you with audio clips of your late night... research sessions paired with your web history.

Not like the wife hasn't walked in on THAT before.

 

[Homercidal]

"Cortana, find me 'grannies spanking midgets covered in pudding'."
"I'm sorry, Dave, I'm afraid I can't do that."

 

[GilaMinumBeer]

"Cortana, find me 'grannies spanking midgets covered in pudding'."
"I'm sorry, Dave, I'm afraid I can't do that."

"Cortana, invoke administrative rule 34."
"Yes, Dave. Will that be Vanilla, Chocolate, or Tapioca?"

 

[passedpawn]

Did the Win10 upgrade. All seemed to be fine and I actually liked most of what I saw.

Then I rebooted. BSOD. System could find an OS in the BCD. WTF? Tried a few command lines to repair but no good.

Had to do a clean install. FML. I know it's better to have clean install but ... that was time I want back.

started the upgrade 2 hours ago. It seemed to be going fine, with the % indicator ticking away, so I went and worked on my kids car. Now it's just 3 black screens with a mouse pointer in the middle of one of them. The pointer will move, but nothing else. I'm going to leave it till the morning. Then, reboot, and possibly OS clean install. FAAAAAACK!

 

[doug293cz]

Anyone tried doing the Win10 upgrade on a multi-boot system? Does it leave the other partitions alone? Does it leave the GRUB boot process alone? I suppose it would be madness not to back up all the other partitions before trying the upgrade.

Brew on

 

[passedpawn]

started the upgrade 2 hours ago. It seemed to be going fine, with the % indicator ticking away, so I went and worked on my kids car. Now it's just 3 black screens with a mouse pointer in the middle of one of them. The pointer will move, but nothing else. I'm going to leave it till the morning. Then, reboot, and possibly OS clean install. FAAAAAACK!

OK, it' not BSOD. It's a multiple monitor issue. I have one screen plugged into my the motherboard Intel graphics controller, and two more screens on a graphics card.

By hitting the control key, then enter a few times, I got windows to log in. I don't use a password, but if you do, then you'd need to hit that control button (which puts the cursor in the password box (which I can't see), then type your password, then hit enter.

Anway, now I can see the desktop. I'm working on getting the other monitors up. The OS things the other monitors are there, so it keeps opening stuff in them. I'm using keyboard shortcuts to move the windows to the monitor that is working.

I'm sure I can get all this working now.

 

[brew_ny]

OK, it' not BSOD. It's a multiple monitor issue. I have one screen plugged into my the motherboard Intel graphics controller, and two more screens on a graphics card.

By hitting the control key, then enter a few times, I got windows to log in. I don't use a password, but if you do, then you'd need to hit that control button (which puts the cursor in the password box (which I can't see), then type your password, then hit enter.

Anway, now I can see the desktop. I'm working on getting the other monitors up. The OS things the other monitors are there, so it keeps opening stuff in them. I'm using keyboard shortcuts to move the windows to the monitor that is working.

I'm sure I can get all this working now.

Windows 10 - Finally some sanity

some how I am missing the sanity part

 

[The_Bishop]

So far, I have three systems up and running 10. My personal desktop, which is a fresh install after upgrading so it would be licensed. My laptop, which is the same scenario; upgrade, then fresh install. My wife's/daughter's desktop, which is an upgrade in place. So far, so good with my wife's/daughter's system. Aside from having to re-install Chrome, it has been trouble-free.

When I installed Win10 on my Dell laptop, I also installed an SSD drive. Noticed two things: Under Windows 10 with the SSD and UEFI Bios, the bootup is insanely fast. From powered down to usable desktop is around 10-12 seconds. My desktop, also powered by an SSD bootup drive and UEFI, is about the same. It's tremendously faster than windows 7 on startup. Operations on both seem quicker, too.