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I've been thru this cycle several times now....

Started back in my teens to college years: Friends would grab cases of Busch "Latte" as it was bang for the buck. If you like Light American Lager it's OK, but as that was the ONLY style I'd ever had in a beer my whole life up to that point, I was never enthused.

Ironically it kept me from being a binge drinker in those days cuz I didn't know there was beer out there I liked ALOT better.

Fast-Forward a few years and I got served a Newcastle Brown on draught. First time in my life I wanted a second round, and started my journey exploring all the other styles.

Guinness, Beamish, Taddy Porter, Fullers, Boddingtons, even Bass ale burst the English doors open to me.

Then I started taking a hard look at "green bottle" import lagers. Find them on draught and they are pretty good... then I discovered the original Pilsner Urquell and true German Pilsners. Man, what a change from Light American Lager!

Craft beer was ramping up with a good mix of the "brown" styles, as well as proper West Coast IPAs. I was in the zone for several years where there were MANY browns, stouts, porters alongside these new-fangled IPAs.

I liked the piney, resinous, grapefruit characters. It was such a departure. Being a cannabis enthusiast as well, good hops smell like good "other green stuff" and that suited me just fine!

Then it was almost like creative fatigue set in. Brewers asking: What can you throw into a beer now these days? Milk stouts were good, but past that the pastry versions are a bit much for my palate.

Same goes for the "orange juice that has gone off". Hazy IPAs are just fine if you are looking for that off-OJ flavor, but it's never been my game and I don't know honestly why people gravitate towards it at all.

The resurgence of CRISP LAGERS in the craft scene has been great from my POV. Even a well made cream ale is just lovely.

I now go out of my way to find English Milds, Browns, porters, and good Czech pilsners when I seek out local craft brews. Thankfully Des Moines and Cedar Rapids have a few good offerings of these styles, and I buy a bunch when I have the ability.

The only IPA to me is a "classic" WC style, like Pliney and Stone. Summit and Boulevard in my neck of the woods do a good job with a westy as well.

That being said, when we talk about my OWN brews... the hop loads (especially dry hopping) for some of these recipes makes them a "special time" batch for me ($$$$).

English styles and continental lagers are much easier on the wallet hop-wise, and are MUCH harder to find in the wild with any frequency.

I brew them almost exclusively, and brew a WC IPA every 8th or 9th batch. Or just pick up a sixer of a good WC IPA when the urge hits me.

cue Huey Lewis and the News: "I know what I like" ;)
 
Even my IPA's tend to top out at .8:1 ratio. 1.065 is about 50 ibu, 1070 is about 55 ibu for me. I like to taste every part of the beer, not just the hops. I make maybe 2 of them every year.
 
I was actually serious :D

I found that you can grow shiitake and oysters pretty well without an autoclave. Just use minimum 20% of the substrate weight as inoculated grains and your good, but you have to use pellets as the substrate. These are already almost sterile.

More grains per substrate weight gives better yield due to more nutrients.

I was thinking about using spent grains for this, but I guess they get moldy too quickly without an autoclave.
I have successfully grew mushrooms with a simple pressure cooker to sterilize, iso alcohol and a bic lighter for the syringe, us homebrewers have a heads up cause we understand the importance of sanitation and sterilization, with mushrooms you really gotta be on point sanitation wont cut it completely, i dont know why i wrote this maybe just glad to meet a other mushroom grower cheers
 
I concur with most of the people on this board. I do not hate IPAs. I do hate the fact that upwards of 2/3 of all beers being made are some version of an IPA. Thsi is true even for brewpubs! It is rare to find a good traditional bock or an ESB or anything "old school" The other week I was in the mood for a good traditional brown ale and couldn't find one yet if I wanted something with peanut butter the shelves were stocked. Today you get donuts in your beer or bacon in your beer or some version of a sour. Variety is the spice of life and that used to be true in the craft beer industry. This is one reason I am reviving my homebrew career.
 
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Back in the days of yore, The English produced IPA with a large dose of hops to ship to India! It was not some statement against another style of beer. It was a necessity to preserve the beer for the trip. I would rarely choose an IPA, but on a hot summer‘s day one could be refreshing If I’m in the mood for it.
Just wait until you get to the India Porter rabbit hole...
 
Clearly a lot of you have not tried the glory known as Green King IPA. Cough Cough
 
I am definitely not worried what other's drink they can drink rams piss if they want, just a mindless post on the mindless thread
I like an occasional west coast style but it's not at the top of my list of everyday beers.
This quote made me laugh, Beer Fest is still a favorite.
 
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