You dunked on the color, though! For me, that's always the hassle with both of those beers. This year I'm not screwing around, it's full cheat mode for me: I purchased some Sinamar.My attempt at a negra modello clone. Def didn’t nail the clone. Far too malty but it’s a great beer. I feel like it falls between dunkel and dark Mexican lager. View attachment 855579