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Yuri_Rage said:
Glycerin/glycerol is the correct stuff to use. Glycol is the stuff to avoid - that's antifreeze.

Propolene Glycol (PG) is a great humidity stabilizer for humidors. I use it in all of mine.

PG is also occasionally used as an anti-freeze though usually it is ethylene glycol.


Glycerol and glycerin are the same thing. There are some food grade versions and some that are not food grade.

You should have no trouble finding it at a compounding pharmacy.
 
I was the one who had typed that it was glycol (which is in fact anti-freeze,) and I also corrected it.

As far as the glycerol/glycerin debate goes:

Glycerol, also well known as glycerin and glycerine, and less commonly as propane-1,2,3-triol, 1,2,3-propanetriol, 1,2,3-trihydroxypropane, glyceritol, and glycyl alcohol is a colorless, odorless, hygroscopic, and sweet-tasting viscous liquid. Glycerol is a sugar alcohol and has three hydrophilic alcoholic hydroxyl groups (OH-) that are responsible for its solubility in water.

Edit: okay, I didn't see this linked to before. I still think the terms can be used interchangeably and I'm not changing my post further.
 
Racked my barleywine to 2nd last night. Got a FULL gallon BUM-JUG COMPLETELY FULL of ROGUE PACMAN yeast!!! I am almost more excited about that than the beer in the 2nd... LOL!!!!:ban: go figure... hehehhe
 
dOGHAIR said:
I had the pleasure of attending my first beer fest the other week and it was an "on wood" theme. Apparently the first all wood aged beerfest.
The north coast old stock was incredible.


If this was the fest at the Bistro I really wanted to go but was unable to make it. Glad to hear you had a good time.

It sounds like you're doing everything right with the glycerin. The glycerin is more dense than water so it shouldn't have taken significant shaking to get it to displace the water over the yeast. I can't wait to hear the results after a good amount of time in the freezer.
 
Too funny, I drove home last night from LA (6.5 hour drive) and heard an episode of Craft Brewing Radio where they mentioned the name. I didn't realize they were such infamous partiers over there.
 
Well reading this thread was time consuming:drunk: I was thinking of brewing monday, Was planning a chocolate stout. Went to the beer fridge to get the English Ale yeast I had washed but guess what? I have a lager, a pilsner, a cali ale and pacman but no ale yeast:( . I knew Rogue did a stout so I thought I might use the pacman. Does anyone think I will have any issues with doing a Young's Double chocolate stout with Pacman? It calls for Wyeast 1318 but I don't know what Pacmans atten and floc is.
 
2nd Street Brewery said:
Well reading this thread was time consuming:drunk: I was thinking of brewing monday, Was planning a chocolate stout. Went to the beer fridge to get the English Ale yeast I had washed but guess what? I have a lager, a pilsner, a cali ale and pacman but no ale yeast:( . I knew Rogue did a stout so I thought I might use the pacman. Does anyone think I will have any issues with doing a Young's Double chocolate stout with Pacman? It calls for Wyeast 1318 but I don't know what Pacmans atten and floc is.
PacMan is most certainly an ale yeast. It has "high attenuation" and "very high flocculation." I'm sure you could substitute PacMan for any fairly clean ale yeast.
 
Great news. Good thing too since I sad the hell with it and did my starter anyway:p . Cooling now and almost ready to pitch.

Thanks for the info Yuri
 
I ordered some pacman the other day and it came this afternoon! :ban:
I think I'll put it in the amber that I have on the list.
 
with my pacman, and will repitch an IPA on the cake in 3 weeks....

Type: Partial Mash
Date: 12/25/2006
Batch Size: 5.00 gal
Brewer: Jon
Boil Size: 5.72 gal Asst Brewer:
Boil Time: 60 min Equipment: My Equipment
Taste Rating(out of 50): 35.0 Brewhouse Efficiency: 75.0
Taste Notes:

Ingredients

Amount Item Type % or IBU
3.50 lb Extra Light Dry Extract (3.0 SRM) Dry Extract 39.8 %
3.30 lb Pale Liquid Extract (8.0 SRM) Extract 37.5 %
0.75 lb Cara-Pils/Dextrine (2.0 SRM) Grain 8.5 %
0.75 lb Caramel/Crystal Malt - 30L (30.0 SRM) Grain 8.5 %
0.50 lb Honey Malt (25.0 SRM) Grain 5.7 %
1.00 oz Magnum [13.60%] (30 min) Hops 33.9 IBU
0.50 oz Cascade [6.60%] (60 min) Hops 10.7 IBU
0.50 oz Cascade [6.40%] (0 min) (Aroma Hop-Steep) Hops -
0.50 oz Glacier [5.60%] (0 min) (Aroma Hop-Steep) Hops -
0.50 oz Glacier [5.60%] (0 min) (Aroma Hop-Steep) Hops -
0.25 tsp Irish Moss (Boil 10.0 min) Misc
1 Pkgs Pacman (Wyeast Labs #Special) [Starter 700 ml] Yeast-Ale



Beer Profile

Est Original Gravity: 1.065 SG
Measured Original Gravity: 1.065 SG
Est Final Gravity: 1.015 SG Measured Final Gravity: 1.016 SG
Estimated Alcohol by Vol: 6.4 % Actual Alcohol by Vol: 6.4 %
Bitterness: 44.7 IBU Calories: 294 cal/pint
Est Color: 9.4 SRM Color: Color

What do you guys think?

It has been bubbling away for 4 days like a mad man since I pitched...wahoooo!:rockin:
 
Made a Dead Guy last night. Unfortunately I brewed on a whim and didn't make a starter. I smacked the pack about 1 PM and pitched at midnight. The pack had swelled up nicely. By this morning it's barely bubbling. I've been aerating (shaking) occasionally throughout the morning and I hope it will get going soon. Some yeast is clumping on the top. I guess I should get a diffusion stone. Or is shaking vigorously still a viable option for the minimalist homebrewer? ( I just spent a bunch to make the jump to AG and still need to buy a grain mill and scale)

If it doesn't start up soon, should I add some nutrient?

Will a cheap aquarium pump work with a diffusion stone for aerating?

Thanks
 
8string said:
Made a Dead Guy last night. Unfortunately I brewed on a whim and didn't make a starter. I smacked the pack about 1 PM and pitched at midnight. The pack had swelled up nicely. By this morning it's barely bubbling. I've been aerating (shaking) occasionally throughout the morning and I hope it will get going soon. Some yeast is clumping on the top. I guess I should get a diffusion stone. Or is shaking vigorously still a viable option for the minimalist homebrewer? ( I just spent a bunch to make the jump to AG and still need to buy a grain mill and scale)

If it doesn't start up soon, should I add some nutrient?

Will a cheap aquarium pump work with a diffusion stone for aerating?

Thanks

Depending on the size of your carboy, it can take up to 48 hours before you notice bubbles. Even if the pack hadn't swelled up, as long as you didn't pitch on hot wort, it'll propagate. RDWHAHB.
 
Yeah, It's in a 6.5 gallon. I just got used to quick starts since Ive been making starters at least 24 hours prior. I'm not worried, in fact since its past noon, It might be time for a homebrew to minimize all worries! Cheers! thanks

I also explored the aeration topics in the forum, great info!
 
I dearly love Rogue's Shakespeare Stout, but I wanted to try a PacMan imperial first. I pitched a "seat of your pants" hi-grav oatmeal stout on 12/27. It started at .082 and was down to .025 when I moved it to the secondary today. Can't wait to try it, but I plan to leave it in the secondary a good long time to let it clear. I included some chopped dates, and they make it pretty murky... I call it Imperial Quaker. By the way, I've never used Palisades hops- anyone familiar with it?

'Imperial Quaker' Oatmeal Stout
Oats Flaked 1.0 lb.
English Chocolate Malt 1 lb
Roasted Barley .5 lb
Flaked Barley .5 lb.
Dextrine Malt .5 lb.
Weyermann Carafa II .75 lb.
Weyermann Melanoidin .5 lb.
Muntons Amber DME 3.0 lb.
Muntons Dark DME 3.0 lb.
Dark Brown Sugar 1.0 lb.
Honey 2.0 lb.
Molasses unsulfered blackstrap .75 lb.
6 oz. chopped dates added w/ boiling hops
1 t. irish moss w/ second hops addition
1.0 oz. Palisades (Whole, 9.20 %) 60 min.
1.0 oz. Palisades (Whole, 9.2 %) 30 min.
0.5 oz. Amarillo (Whole, 8.50 %) 5 min.
0.5 oz. Amarillo (Whole, 8.50 %) 1 min.

12/27: SG 82 (wish I'd checked it on the 28th & 29th!)
12/30: SG 42
12/31: SG 32
01/01: SG 25 racked to secondary.
 
I was just at Rogue this weekend, one of the fermenters we walked by was blowing off into a 50gal garbage can, krusen was going everywhere and the damn thing was bubbling like a fire hose. Pacman yeast is agressive stuff I think I'll be harvesting off a juniper pale ale tonight. :)
 
I was just at Rogue this weekend, one of the fermenters we walked by was blowing off into a 50gal garbage can, krusen was going everywhere and the damn thing was bubbling like a fire hose. Pacman yeast is agressive stuff I think I'll be harvesting off a juniper pale ale tonight. :)

My LHBS had it in stock about a month ago. are you not able to find any?
 
I was just at Rogue this weekend, one of the fermenters we walked by was blowing off into a 50gal garbage can, krusen was going everywhere and the damn thing was bubbling like a fire hose. Pacman yeast is agressive stuff I think I'll be harvesting off a juniper pale ale tonight. :)

You hadda go an bump an ancient thread...LOL

There's a couple recent Pacman Harvesting threads from a few weeks back. One of them with a nifty video...

I'm on my third harvest of it...and I got a bomber of stout in the fridge that will be a fourth.

So you mean you walked by a 50 gallon garbage can of pacman at high krausen and didn't think of asking for a waterbottle full, or at least scoop a bunch into your pockets???....MAN, what a missed opportunity!

I would have snatched the garbage can up and taken off running! :D
 
Originally posted by farmbrewernw
Pacman yeast is agressive stuff I think I'll be harvesting off a juniper pale ale tonight.

You must have been at the Brewer's Memorial Beer Fest. Sorry I missed it this year.

You should've just asked John for a slurry to take home with you. He's always been great about sharing yeast and other ingredients. I usually pick up Pacman yeast myself from Rogue Issaquah Brewhouse.
 
Yeah I thought about scooping up some of the slurry but to be honest I was pretty druk, I was at the Brewer fest and yes it was awesome. I do make it to Rogue at least a few times a year so I'm pretty sure I'll just have to get some next time. I like the challenge of harvesting from the bottle though so I'm going to give it a shot. Sorry about revamping the old thread but you all know you like it ;)
 
Racked my barleywine to 2nd last night. Got a FULL gallon BUM-JUG COMPLETELY FULL of ROGUE PACMAN yeast!!! I am almost more excited about that than the beer in the 2nd... LOL!!!!:ban: go figure... hehehhe

It isn't generally recommended to harvest yeast from a really high alcohol beer. The yeasties will be all partied out (a lot of that yeast cake will be dead yeast that will never do anything for you.) That said, the yeast you get that are still living will be some alcohol tolerant sons-of-*******.
From my understanding it's best to go from low alcohol batches to high alcohol batches if you're reusing yeast cakes and then retiring the hard working yeast after the high alcohol batches.
 
It isn't generally recommended to harvest yeast from a really high alcohol beer. The yeasties will be all partied out (a lot of that yeast cake will be dead yeast that will never do anything for you.) That said, the yeast you get that are still living will be some alcohol tolerant sons-of-*******.
From my understanding it's best to go from low alcohol batches to high alcohol batches if you're reusing yeast cakes and then retiring the hard working yeast after the high alcohol batches.


Fyi that was posted over 4 years ago


and pacman is the Bomb love this yeast
 
I really thought that a post on the Pacman yeast would have more then 88 posts in the 4 yeas since this thread started.
 
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