Trading dregs?

[RPh_Guy]

La Terrier and La Folie

Check that they're newer and unpasteurized.

3 Fonteinen Oude Geueze

That's one of my favorites

I just ordered some of the vials I linked, so I'll be ready to go shortly.

 

[Andrew Hodgson]

I picked up the La Folie and La Terrior from the brewery about a month ago. Haven't checked the bottle will it say if it's pasteurized or should I just shoot the brewery an email?

 

[Andrew Hodgson]

That's one of my favorites

My girlfriend did not like it at all, but it is one of the more complex beers I have ever had, really pleasant all the way through the complexity, wish the bottle limit was higher when I picked them up at Hill Farmstead .

 

[RPh_Guy]

I picked up the La Folie and La Terrior from the brewery about a month ago. Haven't checked the bottle will it say if it's pasteurized or should I just shoot the brewery an email?

My understanding is that the new corked+caged bottles are unpasteurized.

 

[Andrew Hodgson]

Cool, these both fit that bill. I'll shoot the boys an email and see if they confirm anyway. In any event I wanted to harvest from the "first American sour beers" so hopefully this is correct.

I'll have to buy some vials or containers and start fridging some of these. Emailed Hill Farmstead too to see if their bottle I have are pasteurized. they aren't C&C so maybe not.

 

[jready]

My understanding is that the new corked+caged bottles are unpasteurized.

I was at NB in Asheville last week and purchased a couple of bottles that are corked and caged I will see if it says anything on the bottles

 

[jready]

I thought RPHguy already had - he wants some Belgian stuff Drei and Cantillon. I'll second that! Here's what I'm looking for:
- Jester King
- 3 Fonteinen
- Cantillon

Here's what I can offer:
- New Belgium (C&C, not pasteurized)
- Schell's Noble Star
- Lindeman's Gueuze
- Cascade (maybe - haven't tried culturing it just yet)
And soon:
- Jolly Pumpkin
- Speciation Ales (spontaneous ferment)

I gotcha covered on Jester King. I am out of town next week but plan to drink my bottles next weekend and start the culturing

 

[Andrew Hodgson]

Vials ordered.

 

[j1laskey]

I also have more sours In the cellar after I checked....Plan Bee (Barn Beer) Barrel and Beam, (Spooky Kriek) Tired hands (Omelas and Prayer Group) Alchemist (wild child), Lindemans (Cuvée Rene)

 

[brownni5]

Cool, these both fit that bill. I'll shoot the boys an email and see if they confirm anyways

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I can save you the trouble - checked in with them a month or so ago and the C&C bottles for NB are NOT pasteurized. But, just because that is the way they do things doesn't mean all breweries are like that. Lots of bottles with crowns have good bugs.

 

[brownni5]

I gotcha covered on Jester King. I am out of town next week but plan to drink my bottles next weekend and start the culturing

That would make my month!

 

[jready]

Vials ordered here too!

 

[j1laskey]

I’ll be drinking this, this weekend and getting the dregs spinning. I’ll have a P1 midweek next week and then I’ll split to a P2 if anyone is interested

 

[Andrew Hodgson]

Just got an interesting response from New Belgium.

La Folie is flash pasteurized after aging which I assumes renders the yeast useless.

Then the stupid boilerplate bullspit about how they don't pasteurize all their beers but their process is proprietary blah blah blah.

 

[RPh_Guy]

Speaking of pasteurized, my culturing of New Holland's Sour Inc Blue Monday dregs was unsuccessful.
Couldn't find any info about it on the web so I gave it a try.

 

[Sandstorm]

Just got an interesting response from New Belgium.

La Folie is flash pasteurized after aging which I assumes renders the yeast useless.

Then the stupid boilerplate bullspit about how they don't pasteurize all their beers but their process is proprietary blah blah blah.

Lauren Salazar their sour program manager says on multiple podcasts that they pasteurize almost all of their wild stuff. For safety and to “lock in the profile” I feel like it’s also to protect their bugs.

 

[cyberbackpacker]

Speaking of pasteurized, my culturing of New Holland's Sour Inc Blue Monday dregs was unsuccessful.
Couldn't find any info about it on the web so I gave it a try.

New Holland definitely pasteurizes anything that touches wood too (including Dragon's Milk and Blue Sunday); it is done to "lock in the profile" as @Sandstorm suggests New Belgium does as well.

 

[brownni5]

As stated lots of times, corked and caged La Folie (and other New Belgium sours) are not pasteurized. Those bottles with crowns are.

 

[jready]

I have a bottle of Felix and Oscar that I recently got from their Asheville brewery. I should be cracking at least one of them soon. They are corked and caged so I will try to culture them up

 

[jready]

These are the bottles all corked and caged

 

[brownni5]

Those should work - I was told by NB this spring that they simply don't have the capacity to pasteurize the C&C bottles. It was a thread on the MTF FB, if anybody wanted to get the actual answer.

Not a fan of those bull-nosed bottles though...

 

[j1laskey]

Cracked and will be spinning tomorrow

 

[fourfarthing]

Watching, like a voyeur

 

[jready]

Cracked and will be spinning tomorrow
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Nice! I added additional Jester King dregs tonight and started some Burial dregs.

 

[j1laskey]

Inoculation time

 

[j1laskey]

 

[j1laskey]

P1. I Will let a pellet settle and decant. Then, step up to P2 if anyone wants some.

 

[jready]

I’m interested

 

[jready]

I have some good activity from my Jester King and Burial dregs. Might need another week but if there is interest let me know

 

[Dr_Jeff]

Ha! Just in Tennessee so not too bad. I need to work on some culturing procedures. I have Jolly Pumpkin, Jester King, Wicked Weed, Burial, The Vail, Yazoo, Russian River, Alligash, Odd Story, West 6th, Mantra, Cigar City and a few others. I travel a ton for work so I always try to grab a few local bottles when I can.

What part of Tennessee?
I live in North Alabama and have several sour projects going, in oak barrels as well as in stainless vessels that I would like to share with someone that appreciates sours.