Thrifty RIMS canister from Nor Cal Brewing Solutions

[Jaybird]

Did a full water test and TEMP RISE test to see what this will do with just water.

Started with 8 gallons of water @60*F
circulating at aprox 1/2-3/4 gallon a min
In 2.5 hours it went from 60 to 160 (set point)

This is running at 110VAC NOT 240....

I think it did very well myself.


Cheers
Jay

 

[Toadies]

Following thread, excited to see final product!

 

[Jwin]

What would be the result of running a 2000w 120v element with that controller? Would the PID only output it's max wattage? Or would the element simply draw to much power for the box to handle?
It says it's rated for 1500w. I guess I'm curious if would just throttle the output to 1500...
Sorry if this is OT, but I couldn't find anything certain on aubers page.

 

[Jaybird]

What would be the result of running a 2000w 120v element with that controller? Would the PID only output it's max wattage? Or would the element simply draw to much power for the box to handle?
It says it's rated for 1500w. I guess I'm curious if would just throttle the output to 1500...
Sorry if this is OT, but I couldn't find anything certain on aubers page.

It's listed on the controller 1500 WATTS @ 120 VAC. I would assume the draw is going to "COME" from the element because that is what its rated to draw. Therefor you would be using the PID as a fuse and that is never good.

Unfortunately past that I would have to direct you to call or email them.

Cheers
Jay

 

[Jaybird]

Alright guys here it is.

I am going to start taking PM orders as of right now. I will be putting this up as a "PRE ORDER" so I can get more of the controllers and the elements in stock. I am thinking 2 weeks out for all orders to ship. Pre order is going to be $249.99 as it sits in the picture. After we get the PRE ORDERS built and fulfilled for you guys that have been following the thread I am going to raise the price to $259.99 as it sits in the picture.


PM me before Christmas and you will also get free shipping with our Free Shipping Promo.

Questions? FIRE AWAY!

Cheers
Jay

 

[JDXX1971]

I want one!!!!!! But it will have to wait till next year.

Hey, how much would it be to weld two mounting tabs to the tube? I have a space saved just for this on my awesome BIAB stand you built for me.

 

[SandstoneCityBrew]

How much without the controller and valve?

 

[Yesfan]

Did you do any testing using a 240V source? I'd like to see how much faster the water temp got to 160. 2.5hrs to 160F from 60F seems a bit much for me.

The system looks good Jay. Great job!

 

[Jaybird]

Sorry guys I was in such a hurry to get to a X-Mas party last night I forgot to attach the picture..

Here it is.

Cheers
Jay

 

[LBussy]

Hey, how much would it be to weld two mounting tabs to the tube? I have a space saved just for this on my awesome BIAB stand you built for me.

I don't know what the size is, but something like this might be cheaper than welding on mounts:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000GAUYIC/?tag=skimlinks_replacement-20

 

[Jaybird]

How much without the controller and valve?

Controller is $63.99 That is the aprox shipped price to me from Auber.
Ball valve $14.99
Close nipple $3.99


Happy to remove them for you.

Cheers
Jay

 

[Jaybird]

http://www.norcalbrewingsolutions.com/store/Pre-Order-Sale-Items-NorCal-Brewing-Solutions.html

Is ready for "PRE ORDER" Feel free to place the orders there for the full system.

I am happy to add and remove parts for you here as well.

Cheers
Jay

 

[Toadies]

Thoughts on how the temp controller will handle overtime? I would imagine the relay would be clicking a lot on a rims tube.

Could you do a test from 150 to 170? I would like to get a sense for step mash.

Thanks!
Chris

 

[Jaybird]

Thoughts on how the temp controller will handle overtime? I would imagine the relay would be clicking a lot on a rims tube.

Could you do a test from 150 to 170? I would like to get a sense for step mash.

Thanks!
Chris

How many gallons of liquid? From my calculations on 8-9 gallons of liquid from what test we already did it would take 15-20 min. Assuming a 5 gallon batch and only 4 gallons of liquid it would be 1/2 that time.

Cheers
Jay

 

[jackyl]

I've been looking into some automation for my NG setup and this looks great for handling mash temps. But, all my stuff has the brew hardware cam lock fittings. Is it easy to do cam locks (or an NPT fitting that a cam lock could be put on) instead of tri clover? Or I suppose I could find a way to rig tri clover to cam.

Also, is there any concern with mounting this a couple feet below a BG14 that'll be running at full blast under a kettle while the water comes to temp and during the boil?

E: looks like brew hardware has a conversion piece so being native cam lock means one less part, but no big deal. The second question still matters though

 

[woo_pig]

Did you do any testing using a 240V source? I'd like to see how much faster the water temp got to 160. 2.5hrs to 160F from 60F seems a bit much for me.

The system looks good Jay. Great job!

Ditto for me too.

 

[Toadies]

How many gallons of liquid? From my calculations on 8-9 gallons of liquid from what test we already did it would take 15-20 min. Assuming a 5 gallon batch and only 4 gallons of liquid it would be 1/2 that time.

Cheers
Jay

Sounds excellent to me! Any thoughts on the PID controller not having SSR relay?.

 

[TallDan]

I've been looking into some automation for my NG setup and this looks great for handling mash temps. But, all my stuff has the brew hardware cam lock fittings. Is it easy to do cam locks (or an NPT fitting that a cam lock could be put on) instead of tri clover? Or I suppose I could find a way to rig tri clover to cam.

The TC connection is only where the element connects to the tube. You will want to leave it that way unless you have some sort of camlock heating element. You can put NPT-cam fittings on the wort in/out.

 

[Jaybird]

I've been looking into some automation for my NG setup and this looks great for handling mash temps. But, all my stuff has the brew hardware cam lock fittings. Is it easy to do cam locks (or an NPT fitting that a cam lock could be put on) instead of tri clover? Or I suppose I could find a way to rig tri clover to cam.

Also, is there any concern with mounting this a couple feet below a BG14 that'll be running at full blast under a kettle while the water comes to temp and during the boil?

Both in and out are open fair game for any part you want to add.

I don't think there is going to be any issues a couple feet. I would just take a good temp and feel where you plan on mounting it.

Cheers
Jay

 

[Jaybird]

Sounds excellent to me! Any thoughts on the PID controller not having SSR relay?.

I think that most relays that are built these days have a fairly good switching life. Personally my HLT has been running off the same relay for the last 12+ years no SSR there. But I cant really answer that question about THIS PID as I have only tested it the one time and don't know what switch lifespan it has.
I am really just offering it as a low cost option. I will contact Auber tomorrow and ask them some of these questions.

Cheers
Jay

 

[JDXX1971]

I don't know what the size is, but something like this might be cheaper than welding on mounts:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000GAUYIC/?tag=skimlinks_replacement-20

Yeah I have seen them in stainless also, gotta be stainless for around here.

 

[ba-brewer]

How much for the tube, element and attaching hardware(clamp,gaskets,washer) only?

Will the first order be 2 in. tubes or 1.5 in.?

I only have access to 110V and was wondering if a 2000W fold back element would fit inside. What is the inside length of the tube or what is the largest standard type element that might fit?

 

[Jaybird]

How much for the tube, element and attaching hardware(clamp,gaskets,washer) only?

Will the first order be 2 in. tubes or 1.5 in.?

I only have access to 110V and was wondering if a 2000W fold back element would fit inside. What is the inside length of the tube or what is the largest standard type element that might fit?

2" only at this point. Going to start here and see if we even need to go with 1.5" Not sure if the fold back element you have will fit in the tube. If it will fit in a standard 2" tube it will fit in this one.

Let me get to my store and I will find you an exact price. It will be everything without the PID you would just deduct $64 or $66 for the PID
Cheers
Jay

 

[Jaybird]

Inside length is 13.5" and totally able to custom build longer or shorter. Obviously there will be a custom cut charge and material but were totally able and willing to do it.

Cheers
Jay

 

[ba-brewer]

2" only at this point. Going to start here and see if we even need to go with 1.5" Not sure if the fold back element you have will fit in the tube. If it will fit in a standard 2" tube it will fit in this one.

Let me get to my store and I will find you an exact price. It will be everything without the PID you would just deduct $64 or $66 for the PID
Cheers
Jay

I am just interested in the tube and element stuff , none of the output fitting or PID.

I dont have the element, but if you stay with 2" it should be OK.

Is the wattage listed on the morebeer site correct? I am assuming the element is a passive device so power should increase by 4 not 2 for 220V operation. Did you check the current drain when running your tests?

 

[Vandulus]

I am just interested in the tube and element stuff , none of the output fitting or PID.

I dont have the element, but if you stay with 2" it should be OK.

Is the wattage listed on the morebeer site correct? I am assuming the element is a passive device so power should increase by 4 not 2 for 220V operation. Did you check the current drain when running your tests?

Same here as to wanting just the tube and element as I have everything else. Have you thought of offering mounting brackets too?

 

[Toadies]

Submitted the pre-order. Now to find a pump and sparge arm. It never fails I need more equipment.

Thanks Jaybird for creating this package!

 

[Jaybird]

I am just interested in the tube and element stuff , none of the output fitting or PID.

I dont have the element, but if you stay with 2" it should be OK.

Is the wattage listed on the morebeer site correct? I am assuming the element is a passive device so power should increase by 4 not 2 for 220V operation. Did you check the current drain when running your tests?

I'll get some other packages together as well and get those listed. I wanted to get this up since I had so many PM's asking when is it gonna be done

Give me a few days and I will have it entirely broken down into just parts to buy as well.

Cheers
Jay

 

[Jaybird]

Submitted the pre-order. Now to find a pump and sparge arm. It never fails I need more equipment.

Thanks Jaybird for creating this package!

You bet! Thanks for the order.

Have you seen our weldless and welded sparge arms?

http://www.norcalbrewingsolutions.com/store/Sparge-Assembly-Keg-Keggle-Weldless.html

Cheers
Jay

 

[Jaybird]

How much for the tube, element and attaching hardware(clamp,gaskets,washer) only?

Will the first order be 2 in. tubes or 1.5 in.?

I only have access to 110V and was wondering if a 2000W fold back element would fit inside. What is the inside length of the tube or what is the largest standard type element that might fit?

I am just interested in the tube and element stuff , none of the output fitting or PID.

I dont have the element, but if you stay with 2" it should be OK.

Is the wattage listed on the morebeer site correct? I am assuming the element is a passive device so power should increase by 4 not 2 for 220V operation. Did you check the current drain when running your tests?

Same here as to wanting just the tube and element as I have everything else. Have you thought of offering mounting brackets too?

all the rest of the "PARTS" HOPEFULLY will be listed today as separate parts.

The tube itself SKU 3037 is $58.99
The element SKU 3038 is $39.99
The 2" Cap drilled @ 1.25" for the element SKU 3042 is $9.99

All the rest of the "parts" are on the website already. Clamps, gaskets, ball valves ETC..

If you want to get some of these going just PM me and I can hook you up with an option to get your orders going.

Cheers
Jay