This Really Annoys Me Pet Peeve Thread

[Kee]

Looking back, it's incredible that smokers used to be allowed to smoke on airplanes and in other tight quarters, especially at work where the only options a nonsmoker had was to either breath large amounts of second hand smoke or quit.

There is no safe level of exposure. It goes far beyond annoyance.

 

[TimH]

Home brewers worried about second hand smokes health effects that's funny you do know your liver will kill you way before a inhaling second hand smoke will right? LOL

 

[Hamaki]

Home brewers worried about second hand smokes health effects that's funny you do know your liver will kill you way before a inhaling second hand smoke will right? LOL

A quick check with CDC suggests this is not true. More like 2:1 deaths linked to secondhand smoke vs alcohol related liver failure.

Edit: Unless by "way before" you're talking about how long the disease lasts before one dies. You may be right on that point. Didn't check it out.

 

[hunter_le five]

 

[slym2none]

Home brewers worried about second hand smokes health effects that's funny you do know your liver will kill you way before a inhaling second hand smoke will right? LOL

I choose to possibly punish my liver. No one forces beer down my throat.

Inconsiderate smokers make me breathe their stanky-ass cigarettes.

 

[sudbuddy]

I'm kind of amazed that smoking etiquette is even still a debate. That's pretty archaic. Then again, all the smoking bans in Illinois went into place when I was a kid so I only vaguely recall the "smoking or non-smoking" question from the hostess at a restaurant or the attendant at the hotel.

I'm also amazed that there are still a$$holes out there that proudly want to blow smoke in people's faces and then defend those actions on a public forum. I guess I'm just naive

 

[slym2none]

New pet peeve: beer sites that make you "prove" you are 21 by either asking "yes or no" or just ask you to enter a birth-date. They all say "we do this to help convey the message of responsible drinking", but they aren't keeping anyone out.

"Are you 21 or older? Yes or no?" That really stops a 15YO kid! Because honesty on the web is so prevalent, right? Same with "enter your birth-date".

Amazing.

 

[GrogNerd]

This too

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[flars]

New pet peeve: beer sites that make you "prove" you are 21 by either asking "yes or no" or just ask you to enter a birth-date. They all say "we do this to help convey the message of responsible drinking", but they aren't keeping anyone out.

"Are you 21 or older? Yes or no?" That really stops a 15YO kid! Because honesty on the web is so prevalent, right? Same with "enter your birth-date".

Amazing.

I never give my birth date anywhere on the internet unless it is an official government site that requires identification. Your birthdate is Personal Identifying Information. There's bad people out there that collect PII. When they collect enough PII on you, your house may have a huge mortgage.

Facebook. Put all your personal information out there for everyone to grab.

 

[MaxStout]

whiney little beeches especially about smoking

Home brewers worried about second hand smokes health effects that's funny you do know your liver will kill you way before a inhaling second hand smoke will right? LOL

1993 called. It wants its smokers' rights crusaders back.

I haven't even thought about that old smoker/nonsmoker thing in ages. It's no longer an issue in the civilized world.

 

[Schlenkerla]

I'm kind of amazed that smoking etiquette is even still a debate. That's pretty archaic. Then again, all the smoking bans in Illinois went into place when I was a kid so I only vaguely recall the "smoking or non-smoking" question from the hostess at a restaurant or the attendant at the hotel.

I'm also amazed that there are still a$$holes out there that proudly want to blow smoke in people's faces and then defend those actions on a public forum. I guess I'm just naive

Closing on the half century mark, I still have to curb the comment of saying, "Three non-smoking please." Now I just say "Three please.".

 

[GrogNerd]

"seating for 2, please... Non-screeching brats with inattentive parents section, please"

 

[TimH]

A quick check with CDC suggests this is not true. More like 2:1 deaths linked to secondhand smoke vs alcohol related liver failure.

Edit: Unless by "way before" you're talking about how long the disease lasts before one dies. You may be right on that point. Didn't check it out.

No trying to prove a point. Just trying to rile up all the liberal whiners that think they can tell people what to do because "they" don't like it. I don't even smoke just cant stand whiners. To many americans these days think the world evolves around them. Just remember there are people just as passionate about stopping our right to drink as you whiners are about stopping smoking. No one ever lit up a cigarette and went driving and killed a whole family. besides I'm sure all these suv's and trucks have more to do with those deaths than second hand smoke.

 

[TimH]

Alcohol-Related Crashes: In 2013, 10,076 people were killed in alcohol-impaired driving crashes (any fatal crash involving a driver with a blood-alcohol content (BAC) of 0.08 percent or higher), down 2.5 percent from 10,336 in 2012. Of the persons who were killed in traffic crashes in 2013, 31 percent died in alcohol-impaired driving crashes. In 2010, drunk driving alone accounted for 18% of the total economic loss from motor vehicle crashes, costing the economy as much as $199 billion in direct and quality-of-life losses (NHTSA).

People that drink are much more dangerous to other peoples health than second smoke. Not saying that you guys would do this but I'm sure every single person on here has drivin legally drunk before. Much worse than smokers

 

[slym2none]

Just trying to rile up all the liberal whiners

Wow.

Just wow.

*laughs, then facepalms*

 

[kombat]

I'm sure every single person on here has driven legally drunk before.

... ?

Speak for yourself.

 

[TheCADJockey]

No one ever lit up a cigarette and went driving and killed a whole family...

Eh. I wouldn't imagine this is a fact. Doing anything while driving other than driving is funking dangerous. Which leads me to my biggest pet peeves:

- People that do anything other than drive, while driving.
- People that think they are good drivers.
- Drivers that think they are traffic police.

 

[Dirt_McGirt]

People who think that a posted pet peeve is an invitation to start a culture wars debate. That's a whole other thread, on a different subforum.

Someone has a different opinion than you. Deal with it.

 

[kombat]

Tim, have you ever used a breathalyzer? Most jurisdictions set their "DUI" limit at 0.08 mg/L. I used to think that was pretty low, and would catch a bunch of innocent people just having a beer or two while out to dinner. A couple of years ago, I bought a home unit, more out of curiosity than anything, but also in case I ever needed to verify that someone I had served homebrew to was in fact safe to drive home (covering my butt, legally, so to speak, what with liability laws as crazy as they are nowadays. "I breathalyzed him and he blew a 0.04, Your Honour. I had no grounds to take his keys. He was sober when he left my house.").

The few times I've tried it on myself (again, just out of curiosity to see if I could guess what I'd blow), the results were shocking. After 4-5 beers, I felt perceptibly buzzed, certainly not confident enough to drive, and yet when I blew, I blew a 0.06. As off-kilter and uncoordinated as I felt, I was in fact still legally within the limit to drive a motor vehicle.

I guess what I'm saying is, the people getting DUI's aren't people who had 2 beers while watching the game at the bar, and who got unfairly picked on by a bored cop trying to make their quota. (In my city, cops actually hate catching DUIs, because it's a ton of paperwork and takes them off the road for at least 4 hours). Someone who blows 0.08 or higher is a legitimate danger to others on the road. 0.08 is a *generous* limit, in my opinion/experience, which makes it all the more crazy when I read about people getting pulled over and blowing 0.24. I'd be passed out at that level.

So to claim that everyone here has "driven legally drunk" belies a misunderstanding of just how intoxicated 0.08 really is. It's actually pretty damned drunk.

 

[BreezyBrew]

People who think that a posted pet peeve is an invitation to start a culture wars debate. That's a whole other thread, on a different subforum.

Someone has a different opinion than you. Deal with it.

Right. This thread is for like "I hate people who take my gum and wear red shoes"

 

[MaxStout]

Alcohol-Related Crashes: In 2013, 10,076 people were killed in alcohol-impaired driving crashes (any fatal crash involving a driver with a blood-alcohol content (BAC) of 0.08 percent or higher), down 2.5 percent from 10,336 in 2012. Of the persons who were killed in traffic crashes in 2013, 31 percent died in alcohol-impaired driving crashes. In 2010, drunk driving alone accounted for 18% of the total economic loss from motor vehicle crashes, costing the economy as much as $199 billion in direct and quality-of-life losses (NHTSA).

People that drink are much more dangerous to other peoples health than second smoke. Not saying that you guys would do this but I'm sure every single person on here has drivin legally drunk before. Much worse than smokers

If you're going to use alcohol-related fatalities and costs as your straw man argument to defend smoking, you left out a rather important piece of information: The fatalities and costs of smoking.

Let's look at those numbers now, from the CDC:

Over 480,000 deaths in the U.S. per year, due to smoking.
Nearly 42,000 deaths in the U.S. per year, due to exposure to second-hand smoke.
Total costs related to smoking in the U.S. over $300 billion per year, including nearly $170 billion in direct medical care for adults, and more than $156 billion in lost productivity due to premature death and exposure to second-hand smoke.

 

[kombat]

If you're going to use alcohol-related fatalities and costs as your straw man argument to defend smoking, you left out a rather important piece of information: The fatalities and costs of smoking.

Wait... are we talking about smoking, or are we talking about second hand smoke?

Because one kills hundreds of thousands per year, and the other is ... bull****.

I think we all agree that smoking kills far more than drunk drivers, but there is a great deal of controversy surrounding allegations that second hand smoke is anything more than a myth.

 

[Dirt_McGirt]

Right. This thread is for like "I hate people who...wear red shoes"

You, suh, have offended my honor!

*raises dueling glove*

 

[TheCADJockey]

People with dueling gloves. I couldn't even afford the Nintendo Power Glove and you have a dueling glove? Get OUT of here.

 

[TimH]

Tim, have you ever used a breathalyzer? Most jurisdictions set their "DUI" limit at 0.08 mg/L. I used to think that was pretty low, and would catch a bunch of innocent people just having a beer or two while out to dinner. A couple of years ago, I bought a home unit, more out of curiosity than anything, but also in case I ever needed to verify that someone I had served homebrew to was in fact safe to drive home (covering my butt, legally, so to speak, what with liability laws as crazy as they are nowadays).

The few times I've tried it on myself (again, just out of curiosity to see if I could guess what I'd blow), the results were shocking. After 4-5 beers, I felt perceptibly buzzed, certainly not confident enough to drive, and yet when I blew, I blew a 0.06. As off-kilter and uncoordinated as I felt, I was in fact still legally within the limit to drive a motor vehicle.

I guess what I'm saying is, the people getting DUI's aren't people who had 2 beers while watching the game at the bar, and who got unfairly picked on by a bored cop trying to make their quota. (In my city, cops actually hate catching DUIs, because it's a ton of paperwork and takes them off the road for at least 4 hours). Someone who blows 0.08 or higher is a legitimate danger to others on the road. 0.08 is a *generous* limit, in my opinion/experience, which makes it all the more crazy when I read about people getting pulled over and blowing 0.24. I'd be passed out at that level.

So to claim that everyone here as "driven legally drunk" belies an ignorance of just how intoxicated 0.08 really is. It's actually pretty damned drunk.

Its different for everyone 1 beer for my wife would definitely put her over .08 5 for me would not. Tons of variables that affect the end result. Food, meds, alcohol content of drinks, tolerance and on and on. My father which is a cop told me one drink per hour anything more and you are asking for trouble.

 

[MaxStout]

Wait... are we talking about smoking, or are we talking about second hand smoke?

Because one kills hundreds of thousands per year, and the other is ... bull****.

Both. The latter kills about 42k per year.

 

[TimH]

You, suh, have offended my honor!

*raises dueling glove*

now that's funny!

 

[TimH]

Both. The latter kills about 42k per year.

they are talking about second hand smoke

 

[kombat]

Its different for everyone 1 beer for my wife would definitely put her over .08 5 for me would not. Tons of variables that affect the end result. Food, meds, alcohol content of drinks, tolerance and on and on. My father which is a cop told me one drink per hour anything more and you are asking for trouble.

Sure. But the symptoms would be the same. It might take you 5 beers to get there compared to 1 for your wife, but if you're telling the truth, and that would put you both at 0.08, then you'd have comparable levels of delayed reaction time and disorientation. I would hope that at such a level, you would have the wisdom to not get behind the wheel. That's why I took exception to your claim that we've all driven legally drunk. "Legally drunk" is pretty messed up, regardless of how many drinks it took the person to get there.

 

[Dirt_McGirt]

People with dueling gloves. I couldn't even afford the Nintendo Power Glove and you have a dueling glove? Get OUT of here.

You can find great deals if you know where to look. I'm a member of a whole other set of forums dedicated to dueling and its accoutrements.