The craft beer bubble is busting.

[Rob2010SS]

OP hasn't responded since posting this. I'm calling "Troll"

 

[day_trippr]

Macro brewery plant?

 

[bleme]

The article makes it sound like the problem was financing the company with debt (like Toys R Us).

"Since inception we have been undercapitalized, as Lucky Town was created by just the four of us and we debt financed the entire operation," the post says. "Over the last few years, we have had a consistent string of issues that have made doing business increasingly difficult. After much deliberation, we have decided that it is time to let the dream go."

 

[wepeeler]

I've come to the conclusion that people just like beer. Great beer, good beer, mediocre beer, crappy beer. I think most people go to a brewery or brew pub for the experience of not drinking at home or a friend's house. It's a fun time, and there's often live music or trivia. I try to visit a few new breweries a month, and maybe I've become a beer snob, but there aren't many that I would line up to buy their beer. The average beer drinker, and I wouldn't group most experienced home brewers in that group, just wants a cold pint and options. I think we home brewers have a better palate and are more discerning about what we drink or consider "good beer". Heck, I don't make world class beer (that I know of...), but I, and a lot of my friends, prefer drinking it over most commercial beers. Of course, with obvious exceptions...

 

[jrgtr42]

Sounds like two different stories on why they closed. Or maybe it's all one and the same - they had rent at a certain price, and were making things work just barely. The landlord wanted to raise the rent, and with all the other obligations - loans, ingredients, insurance, salaries etc, the raise in rent put them into negative. (just a theory there.)
There are lots of issues that can come up when you are producing and intoxicating product - be it financing, legal, government related and so on, and all of them cost time, money and effort. Sounds like it all came to a head and they aren't able to deal with it anymore.

 

[Rob2010SS]

I've come to the conclusion that people just like beer. Great beer, good beer, mediocre beer, crappy beer. I think most people go to a brewery or brew pub for the experience of not drinking at home or a friend's house. It's a fun time, and there's often live music or trivia. I try to visit a few new breweries a month, and maybe I've become a beer snob, but there aren't many that I would line up to buy their beer. The average beer drinker, and I wouldn't group most experienced home brewers in that group, just wants a cold pint and options. I think we home brewers have a better palate and are more discerning about what we drink or consider "good beer". Heck, I don't make world class beer (that I know of...), but I, and a lot of my friends, prefer drinking it over most commercial beers. Of course, with obvious exceptions...

Well said! Couldn't have said it better myself.

I feel like this is on topic but maybe not. I thought about it after reading this post. There are lots of breweries out there putting out garbage beer and yet, TA-DA, they're still in business and succeeding. When I got my degree from Columbia College, my wife and I made a road trip and hit up a ton of breweries. One of them was absolutely raved about in Columbia and we were like, "We have to go here!" It got pretty good ratings on google...

I'm not a beer snob but this stuff was pretty bad. Everything tasted the same and quite honestly, a few offerings had what I believe to be oxidation problems. But yet, here they are, jam packed and getting an average of 4.8 on Google. My guess is the location and that it's a college town are the reasons they are succeeding.

It's breweries like this that make me think the exact opposite of the title of this thread. It's definitely not busting...

 

[Shwagger]

I've come to the conclusion that people just like beer. Great beer, good beer, mediocre beer, crappy beer. I think most people go to a brewery or brew pub for the experience of not drinking at home or a friend's house. It's a fun time, and there's often live music or trivia. I try to visit a few new breweries a month, and maybe I've become a beer snob, but there aren't many that I would line up to buy their beer. The average beer drinker, and I wouldn't group most experienced home brewers in that group, just wants a cold pint and options. I think we home brewers have a better palate and are more discerning about what we drink or consider "good beer". Heck, I don't make world class beer (that I know of...), but I, and a lot of my friends, prefer drinking it over most commercial beers. Of course, with obvious exceptions...

Agreed, sir. I like to try different beers, so I go to a brewery to try what's new. Luckily, most of the breweries here make new types all the time. And we have a ton of breweries.

We also have Gulp Coast which rewards you for visiting breweries. Shirts, cups, random items. So I try them all at least once.

And ask for my beer to be poured into a pint or nonick

 

[Qhrumphf]

Sounds like a lot of posters on this thread are using "number of breweries" as indicative of "health of craft market" which isn't necessarily the case. And others "number of breweries closing". Which also isn't the best metric.

 

[Moose_MI]

I wont go to a brewery after I find out they serve beer in a stemmed glass of any kind.

I'm hoping to gather a following and spread my inclination

I’m with you! Lead on my Caesar!

 

[Shwagger]

 

[Moose_MI]

Stemmed Glass..Red Solo Cup...Ceaser....Pee Wee hermon...

Really don’t give a ****....

Take me to beer and we going to be friends

 

[Kirkwooder]

I'm all for a pint glass, until they start to offer quarts.

 

[bleme]

I'm all for a pint glass, until they start to offer quarts.

There is a pizza place the next city over that offers a 28oz mug for $5 on promotional days (like every Monday and anytime there is an NFL game on). 33 taps to choose from and always something I haven't tried yet.

My biggest peeve with the stemmed 8oz-12oz pours is when it isn't clear what size you will get.

 

[NewJersey]

I wont go to a brewery after I find out they serve beer in a stemmed glass of any kind.

I'm hoping to gather a following and spread my inclination

why?

 

[Shwagger]

why?

I'm drinking beer, not brandy or wine or whatever. I personally think its a beer snob hipster gimmick. And i dont believe tulips or goblets or pinky extending glasses make the beer taste any better than a true pint or nonick or similar, regardless of what many people say.

Stemmed glasses sure do look cute, though

 

[deadwolfbones]

What if it's a beer-wine hybrid, tho?

 

[Shwagger]

What if it's a beer-wine hybrid, tho?

You should be flogged for even mentioning such aberration!

 

[beernutz]

I wont go to a brewery after I find out they serve beer in a stemmed glass of any kind.

I'm hoping to gather a following and spread my inclination

You should probably cross Belgium off of your bucket travel list then.

 

[Shwagger]

You should probably cross Belgium off of your bucket travel list then.

It was never there. I dont speak Belgian and I prefer pancakes to waffles

 

[Homergah]

I just want my beer in the proper glass. The pint sleeve is probably the worst of all the glassware out there. Volatiles are lost too quickly. The correct glassware far outdates any living hipster.

 

[Shwagger]

I do not subscribe to that. But that's just one persons opinion

 

[bleme]

And i dont believe tulips or goblets or pinky extending glasses make the beer taste any better than a true pint or nonick or similar, regardless of what many people say.

I got a set of these glasses a couple years ago and like them a lot better than my old pint glasses. Not only is there a subtle improvement in aroma, but they are tougher and easier to fit my hand in. I once BOUNCED one on the concrete and it didn't break!

 

[Homergah]

I've tried talking myself into the Alchemist glasses that John uses on his videos. But gawd, they are just too frign expensive. They are like that Sierra Nevada glass, but exaggerated.

 

[Kee]

I'm drinking beer, not brandy or wine or whatever. I personally think its a beer snob hipster gimmick. And i dont believe tulips or goblets or pinky extending glasses make the beer taste any better than a true pint or nonick or similar, regardless of what many people say.

Stemmed glasses sure do look cute, though

They will have to pry my Delirium tremens sniftner from my cold, slightly inebriated hands.

 

[Shwagger]

I got a set of these glasses a couple years ago and like them a lot better than my old pint glasses. Not only is there a subtle improvement in aroma, but they are tougher and easier to fit my hand in. I once BOUNCED one on the concrete and it didn't break!

I like these. Similar to a nonick that I love. I have a couple I, uh, acquired, and use them. I like the spiegelau a lot too. And the really wide but shorter version of a pint I see out is nice as well.

 

[Rob2010SS]

I wont go to a brewery after I find out they serve beer in a stemmed glass of any kind.

I'm hoping to gather a following and spread my inclination

Not sure about this. Personally, I wouldn't want a PINT of a 14% barrel aged imperial stout or anything similar to that. I also haven't been to a brewery that DOESN'T use stemmed glasses for certain types of beer and my wife and I just crossed 200+ breweries throughout the US. But as you stated in another post, that's just my opinion. To each their own! That's the fun part about beer.

 

[Shwagger]

Not sure about this. Personally, I wouldn't want a PINT of a 14% barrel aged imperial stout or anything similar to that. I also haven't been to a brewery that DOESN'T use stemmed glasses for certain types of beer and my wife and I just crossed 200+ breweries throughout the US. But as you stated in another post, that's just my opinion. To each their own! That's the fun part about beer.

Ive been known to order a big beer and then ask, after its been poured into a stemmed glass, to pour the beer in any other glass they have. This way you have the same volume and not a silly brandy glass. I get strange looks but my pinky isnt extended

 

[Rob2010SS]

Ive been known to order a big beer and then ask, after its been poured into a stemmed glass, to pour the beer in any other glass they have. This way you have the same volume and not a silly brandy glass. I get strange looks but my pinky isnt extended

Whatever works! Haha you don't have to have an extended pinky. That's for old tea drinkers lol. No offense to any old tea drinkers here [emoji51]

 

[NewJersey]

Ive been known to order a big beer and then ask, after its been poured into a stemmed glass, to pour the beer in any other glass they have. This way you have the same volume and not a silly brandy glass. I get strange looks but my pinky isnt extended

i find your hangup on glassware amusing.
pint glasses are absolute last on my list of preferred glassware, but if served in a pint I'll drink it in a pint because I'm not a picky princess like that,

 

[Shwagger]

i find your hangup on glassware amusing.
pint glasses are absolute last on my list of preferred glassware, but if served in a pint I'll drink it in a pint because I'm not a picky princess like that,

I haven't gone into the stories about mr wearing my tiara whilst brewery hopping. It goes with my pink dress. Maybe next time.