Talking with a friend... distilling beer?

[OpenSights]

Obviously scorching would be a concern, but has anyone tried it? If possible, what would be a good/bad style? Or possible at all?

 

[SteveH aka shetc]

That's called Scotch.

 

[OpenSights]

That's called Scotch.

No sh!t? Really?

 

[SteveH aka shetc]

No sh!t? Really?

Yep, distilled beer - the base beer has no hops.

 

[OpenSights]

Interesting! I didn’t know that.

 

[Hammy71]

Theoretically, with hops is good too. Don't ask me how I know....

 

[SteveH aka shetc]

Theoretically, with hops is good too. Don't ask me how I know....

Yeah, I meant your typical commercial whiskey

 

[TGFV]

Yeah, I meant your typical commercial whiskey

I could be wrong but I am pretty sure most whiskeys, just like Scotch (which is a style of whisky) are hop less, due to there being no need for the bittering or preserving nature of them, and because the oils can both potentially "contaminate" the condenser and leave a off flavour to the finished product, at least in comparison to if it had been hopless

 

[SteveH aka shetc]

You are correct

 

[Soulshine2]

one barley beer+distilling = single malt scotch

 

[bracconiere]

i've made a nice fortified beer once....it really accentuates the hops flavor!

 

[Jayjay1976]

I would love to be wrong but I've heard that any hops at all will cause a nasty flavor in the distillate.

Slightly OT, but I wonder what something darker with roast and crystal malts with a super malty flavor like an Octoberfest (without the hops) would taste like compared to the standard super pale single-malt?

 

[bracconiere]

I would love to be wrong but I've heard that any hops at all will cause a nasty flavor in the distillate.

lol, it's your lucky day! try it for yourself, brew a 10 gal batch of IPA, distill 5 gals of it, then add the distillate back to the other 5 gals.....'SIPA' (Super IPA!)

 

[TGFV]

I would love to be wrong but I've heard that any hops at all will cause a nasty flavor in the distillate.

Slightly OT, but I wonder what something darker with roast and crystal malts with a super malty flavor like an Octoberfest (without the hops) would taste like compared to the standard super pale single-malt?

You can do hopped beer, but you have to go slow to keep the hop oils from going into your column from what I've read.

And I saw a thread on homedistiller that listed the taste effects of different specialty grain.

 

[cabron99]

A friend of mine mashed and fermented 30lbs of chocolate malt. Needles to say, it failed to ferment. Instead of tossing, he added sugar and re-pitched with much greater success. The distillate tasted like... Chocolate!! Quite pleasant.

 

[bracconiere]

A friend of mine mashed and fermented 30lbs of chocolate malt. Needles to say, it failed to ferment. Instead of tossing, he added sugar and re-pitched with much greater success. The distillate tasted like... Chocolate!! Quite pleasant.

LOL, reminds me of when i was 17-18 and first getting into homebrewing.....tried mashing raw rye berries thinking it would work!

 

[greywolf]

I had a small distillery's hop whiskey once. They called it Hopsky. Actually was pretty good. I was at a Brews and Blues in Hermann Mo and don't remember who made it. There was a stout cask whiskey that was excellent there too. Good time.

 

[TGFV]

A friend of mine mashed and fermented 30lbs of chocolate malt. Needles to say, it failed to ferment. Instead of tossing, he added sugar and re-pitched with much greater success. The distillate tasted like... Chocolate!! Quite pleasant.

Did they add or use any enzymes? Without a good helping of them added there wouldn't have been any usable sugars extracted from the grain.

Though I could easily see that being a delicious sugarhead. Honey malt is also a great addition like that too.

 

[mschoeffler]

Charbay does a hopped whiskey using Racer 5 IPA as a base. It has a night “green” note to it but not what you’d call a traditional hop flavor.

 

[cabron99]

Did they add or use any enzymes? Without a good helping of them added there wouldn't have been any usable sugars extracted from the grain.

I don't know, but I'll try to find out.

 

[stevedasleeve]

I going to try this sometime this year. I have heard plenty of stories about more complex worts getting distilled. Stout whisky for example. My initial idea is to brew up 10 gallons of my Brown ale which is not terribly hoppy, ferment 1/2 for beer and 1/2 for distillation. Might do a stout, might do a rye beer.

 

[TGFV]

I going to try this sometime this year. I have heard plenty of stories about more complex worts getting distilled. Stout whisky for example. My initial idea is to brew up 10 gallons of my Brown ale which is not terribly hoppy, ferment 1/2 for beer and 1/2 for distillation. Might do a stout, might do a rye beer.

Hope it works out well for you. One of my favourite whiskeys was a second running from a dark roasted braggot that was abv bumped with sugar (so a sugarhead whisky).

The roasted notes worked amazingly with the slight sweetness from the sugar ferment, and when oaked was easily one of the better whiskeys I have drank.

 

[Brewbuzzard]

No sh!t? Really?

That's why its called single Malt...

 

[Brewbuzzard]

I have a question guys. I'm going to brew a 10 gal batch using two roll and a friend is going to distill it. What should the OG be?

 

[Jayjay1976]

WTF even is "two roll"? Toilet tissue?



Edit: just wanted to add, the Original Gangster is likely the one doing time and brewing said toilet paper moonshine. And getting shanked with a toothbrush shiv. Or is that shived with a shank?

 

[Qhrumphf]

That's why its called single Malt...

Single malt refers to being from a single distillery. The alternative is blended from multiple distilleries.

All whisk(e)y is grain based, not just Scotch. Scotch and Irish Whisky are both malted barley based.

 

[Robusto]

Sorry, but single malt scotch is made from 100% mRted barley. Irish whiskey is made from unmalted barley plus other grains (sometimes).

 

[Brewbuzzard]

WTF even is "two roll"? Toilet tissue?



Edit: just wanted to add, the Original Gangster is likely the one doing time and brewing said toilet paper moonshine. And getting shanked with a toothbrush shiv. Or is that shived with a shank?

Alright Ahole, I shouldn' trust my phone. Two row. Happy now?

 

[Brewbuzzard]

Come to think of it that would be two ply to you Jayjay, lol

 

[Qhrumphf]

Sorry, but single malt scotch is made from 100% mRted barley. Irish whiskey is made from unmalted barley plus other grains (sometimes).

Irish is also usually triple distilled where Scotch is usually double distilled. And Scotch is usually older. With exceptions.