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I brewed my first outdoor BIAB yesterday, on an SP10 burner. I had trouble hitting, and maintaining a stable mash temp. I've been stove-top brewing for a year and a half, plenty of BIAB 5gal batches, mashing in the oven. Yesterday I started too cool, heated to too hot, chilled back to close. I used a long mash, partly because I had to grill dinner at the same time. So, do I just need practice and a longer spoon? What do you do? Thanks.
 
Outdoors vs oven will be vastly different. I typically get the water to 158-160 before adding 10-15 lbs of grain and store well. I check temp and stir every 15 minutes to mix up the water and get a more homogenous solution and temperature check that. You'll see a good temp change before and after stirring. Checking that often I can adjust the temps sooner. If you're over a degree or two I don't stress too much I just stir and increase mash efficiency.

I think what you experienced was 'thermal loss to vessel' which you can add into brewing software.
 
So, do I just need practice and a longer spoon? What do you do? Thanks.


Yes to practice and a longer spoon :)

With some practice you would have known to mash in a little higher to anticipate your temp loss. Insulating the kettle with a blanket or towels, or even an old winter coat works well. Losing a couple few degrees is not a big deal if you anticipate it.

A spoon that easily reaches the bottom of the kettle is a must have.
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That's what I was using before I built my cooler MLT. I ended up needing two layers but was able to hold the temp within a degree for an hour. That is as long as it was above 65f or so outside. Cut a piece for the lid of your pot as well.
 
Blankets,sleepingbags,hikingmats,anything to insulate,but alas a watched kettle never boils.I just bag up my mash(12lt) and only ever lose .5c over 2 hours.lf you keep taking temps it will lose temps.Sorry for the metrics.
 
I brewed my first outdoor BIAB yesterday, on an SP10 burner. I had trouble hitting, and maintaining a stable mash temp. I've been stove-top brewing for a year and a half, plenty of BIAB 5gal batches, mashing in the oven. Yesterday I started too cool, heated to too hot, chilled back to close. I used a long mash, partly because I had to grill dinner at the same time. So, do I just need practice and a longer spoon? What do you do? Thanks.

I mill my grain very fine since that works well with BIAB and then I mash for a much shorter time so the temperature doesn't drop. Your mash might have been fully converted before you even started to heat the too cool mash.
 
Thanks guys. I've followed your posts about quick mashes, RM. But mine seem to take longer. I'm still refining my crush consistency, and by observation, a longer mash works better for me.
 
I am an outside brewer too, I use a woolen blanket, only lose a degree or so in an hour. Once you figure out the temp. Drop when you add your malt, it's all down to insulation.
 
I use a moving blanket and after transferring, I stir a precise amount (i.e., the crap out of it); cover and wrap and don't touch it for 90 mins. At most I lose 2 degrees.


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