Speidel Braumeister (brewmaster)

[Yambor44]

Looks good. Where's the pic of what you are using to cover the holes so you can use it for 50L?

 

[Batfink]

If I'm ever gonna brew a 50l batch i'll just use short M12 bolts, nuts and maybe if needed O-rings to cover the holes.

 

[DeGarre]

Batfink, what do you reckon is the lowest gravity you can get with your modified malt pipe and how many liters?

 

[pigsaarz]

I hope you get this attachment, I have actually got the Braumeister, it was cheaper to get it from Germany( just a retail shop) especially with the euro being so low I am happy with it but I almost bought the one in the attachment if it comes through.You will have to haggle if you are interested.
Here goes I will try and send it

 

[Soviet]

First Brew-

Overall went very well. I had planned on 5 or 6 hours...ended up taking around 10. First problem was when I was cleaning the SB for the brew I realized it didn't have the nozzle/sprout...so ran to Home Depot and made one.

Also create an immersion chiller with ice slush solution that worked great (used a pond pump).

I was expecting my effeciency would be around 1.045-1.050 (came in around 1.038). I think this was due to my grain crush being a little large.

Machine worked perfectly the entire time...had a really nice boil.

Had a great time doing it can't wait for next run at this. Biggest problem was I started drinking beer about 4 hours into brew thinking I should be done in a few hours....so by the time I got to the 10th hour I was rather intoxicated.

Be careful with your measurements. I spent a while screwing around with my crush, only to realize that my mash efficiency had always been high (80s%), it was my BREWHOUSE efficiency—i.e. how much trub I was leaving behind that brought that number down. After fiddling with diptubes and whirlpooling, I realized that simply tipping the unit and propping it up, allowing the trub to settle into the corner did the trick. Instead of leaving 3 gallons behind, I now leave .75 gallons.

 

[Batfink]

Finally got around to write a few words about how my first brew went with the modified malt pipe. Brewed the base for a huge Imperial Stout last Monday with a 20 lb malt bill and 8.5 gallons of brewing water. Did a 60 min mash at 152 F, a 15 min mash out at 172 F and a 90 min boil. My OG was 1.092 which was ok, although I won't be completely happy until I manage to break 1.100 (seems to have become somewhat of an obsession to me ). As soon as the main fermentation is compleated i'll throw in some yeast nutrient and a wine yeast, and over a period of two weeks feed it with 4.5lb of Muscovado sugar.

Anyway, the brew went great and the amount and size of the holes was just enough to keep a good flow.

This last picture is a Double IPA I brewed on Wednesday with 9.5 gallons of water and a 17 lb malt bill. The OG on this one was 1.078.

Batfink, what do you reckon is the lowest gravity you can get with your modified malt pipe and how many liters?

I really don't have no idea yet, but I will be using the 20l malt pipe for smaller beers, since I don't do over 6 gallon batches anyway.

 

[datamike]

I hope you get this attachment, I have actually got the Braumeister, it was cheaper to get it from Germany( just a retail shop) especially with the euro being so low I am happy with it but I almost bought the one in the attachment if it comes through.You will have to haggle if you are interested.
Here goes I will try and send it

What the hell is that thing? I can't find any info on it, other than the pic you posted.

 

[datamike]

Finally got around to write a few words about how my first brew went with the modified malt pipe. Brewed the base for a huge Imperial Stout last Monday with a 20 lb malt bill and 8.5 gallons of brewing water. Did a 60 min mash at 152 F, a 15 min mash out at 172 F and a 90 min boil. My OG was 1.092 which was ok, although I won't be completely happy until I manage to break 1.100 (seems to have become somewhat of an obsession to me ). As soon as the main fermentation is compleated i'll throw in some yeast nutrient and a wine yeast, and over a period of two weeks feed it with 4.5lb of Muscovado sugar.

Anyway, the brew went great and the amount and size of the holes was just enough to keep a good flow.

This last picture is a Double IPA I brewed on Wednesday with 9.5 gallons of water and a 17 lb malt bill. The OG on this one was 1.078.

I really don't have no idea yet, but I will be using the 20l malt pipe for smaller beers, since I don't do over 6 gallon batches anyway.

What's your post boil volume with this setup?

 

[Batfink]

It was about 6.5 gallons. Started out with 7.9 gallons (30l) and had saved only 0.5 gallons (2 l) for sparging, since I wasn't sure there would be enough liquid to cover the heating coils. It seems you need about 8 gallons of water to start with, with a 16.5 - 22 lbs grain bill to keep the heating coils from running dry.

 

[pigsaarz]

What the hell is that thing? I can't find any info on it, other than the pic you posted.

O/k you won't find a Tantabrew website where you will find it is google :-Beijing Weijiachuang Machinery and Control Technology the business owner does have another website though he will sell direct through that website you will end up on he initially had it up for about $800 U.S I paid for it with paypal but he renegged on the deal and gave me my money back or said I could pay a total of $1500 for it which is still really cheap for a 60 litre copy of the Braumiester (and with a full copper shroud) which he claims is better (it whirpools as well)
I think he has a good business there and can afford the "take it or leave it" attitude when charging a retail price from a wholesale outlet, you will see what his business interests are when you visit his website and you can see he has to be doing well. I do a fair bit of business with China and believe me it takes a lot for them to return money once they have it in their claw.I am still going to go and see him next time I go over there,if I can swallow my pride ,I hate to loose.

 

[Obliviousbrew]

That looks a lot more like the Brumas than the Braumeister

 

[Gear101]

When the USD gets strong to the Euro, I am buying one.

 

[Redstag]

I finally have what I think is a great setup for fermentation. I bought one fridge to see if it would work to my satisfaction. It worked like a charm. (DFH 90 Min clone) So I now have a second fridge so I can ferment 10G at a time.
Earlier I had bought an ice cream freezer thinking it would be a good fermentation chamber. I found three problems, 1. Being an ice cream freezer it created a lot of moister which I would have to deal with. 2. It didn't fit through the door where I wanted to store it, in the pantry. (Hhmmmm ever hear of a tape measure...Dumb Ass) 3. It has a glass top letting in light and spoiling the brew. If it fit into the pantry I was not going to have to worry about the glass top.
I was talking to a fellow brewer who mentioned when he uses a secondary fermentation he does it in a corny keg. This alleviates one more chance for contamination. Since it’s already in the keg all you have to do is hook up the Co2 line give it a proper shot, cool down and serve. He doesn’t worry about the few bits of yeast/hops that make it into the keg. They usually come out in the first few glasses. As for dry hopping, I have a couple of the corny keg lids with the loop on the underneath side to hang a bag of hops. So my thought is to use the temperature controlled ice cream freezer for secondary fermentation. That way I won’t be tying up my primary fridges doing secondary fermentation. Brewing more and getting more beer conditioned, is the name of the game. The DFH brew took a month to complete, three weeks of conditioning, and three days to empty the keg. I can also use the ICF for lagering when I decide to take the plunge and brew the wonderful Ayinger Celebrator Doppelbock.
First photo is the DFH clone in a 6.5 G carboy
Second is a test running both units on one controller
Third is the ICF and Keggerator

 

[dinnerstick]

while we're on the topic here is my weird fermentation control; i have the 20L brouwmeester (mine has recently renounced german citizenship for dutch), i had been packing it full to get in the range of 25L post-boil and 23 or so into the fermenter, even overpacked it a couple times to the detriment of efficiency, now i take it easy and aim for spot on 20L at the end of the boil to knock out just under 19 into my mad corny keg fermenter. i have taken to 'recirculating' the wort by hand for a minute (with a pitcher and one of my arms) after lifting the malt tube to set up a bit of a grain filter, sparging once with a relatively high volume and only collecting the beginning of the sparge runoff. that gives good efficiency and a pretty clear wort, and it's quick. i had been really stirring the grain to assist lautering, both in the initial drain of the malt pipe and then again in sparging, which i would typically do over a separate pot while starting to bring the temp up to the boil. i like my new way better, slightly lower efficiency (65-70 compared with 70-75, didn't calculate my last one yet) but i can just adjust the recipe. in a big fermenter like a 30L bucket i don't care if i carry over a lot of trub but every cubic mm counts when you're pressed for space!
https://www.homebrewtalk.com/f51/my-ugly-peltier-temp-control-junk-350722/
sorry it's so long. i got excited that it actually worked. at least scroll to the photos!
just finishing my second beer in the corny fermemter, this time using the spunding valve after the sizable and fragrant blowoff from wyeast 3787 westmalle strain subsided. i love beer

 

[Obliviousbrew]

Well a little update on my proccess: I know crush my grains a little finner about 1 mm in the barley crusher, I ´ve pack the malt tube with to 7 kilos of malt, the pumps struggle a little but no fountains so far, I brewed a Double IPA all malt (no sugar in boil to dry it out) And I got a 1.077 wort with a 70 minute boil, that end up a tad sweet for my tastes so I brew the next one adding 0.5 of sucrose in the boil OG was 1.085. So I´m happy so far without having to make modifications or double mash or longer boils. I´m going to brew a quad probably next week and I want to hit high 90 in the OG I´ll probably boil longer and that´s it. Anyway the hole drilling in the malt tube looks like a good idea. I´m going to get into that next year when I get a spare malt tube (there is no way I´m drilling mine). Catch you later braumeisterians.

 

[dinnerstick]

another use for the speidel- sous vide cooker! jut tried it for the first time. a bit worried about the bag opening and garlic lodging in the pump... but it went shockingly well!
https://www.homebrewtalk.com/f56/show-us-your-sous-vide-cooker-343738/index3.html#post4436286
ok back to beer

 

[digitaldeluge]

Having never done any brewing I just ordered a 20L , head first in I go! Hello by the way, I lurk! ... Lurked?

 

[Yambor44]

Having never done any brewing I just ordered a 20L , head first in I go! Hello by the way, I lurk! ... Lurked?

Great first post! Welcome to the site!

 

[Batfink]

What evaporation rate do you guys use in your brewing software to calculate boil off with the 50l?

 

[flemming]

What evaporation rate do you guys use in your brewing software to calculate boil off with the 50l?

When I first got my 50L, I did a few extended boils purely for the purpose of establishing a starting point and I ended up with a rate of around 5L/hr. Your mileage my vary, based upon a bazillion other factors

Robert

 

[emanz1]

Hello all, this is my first my first post. I've lurked for long enough, learned lots from you guys. Just received my brand new 20L Braumeister today. I'm wondering what enhancements you recommend. Things like a pick up tube and/or gaskets around the screens, etc. Thanks

 

[wasp]

Welcome emanz1.

The BM's are so shiny and purdy it's ALMOST a shame to use them - NOT! You'll have great service from your BM.

I have the Thermocollar which helps to promote a slightly more rapid boil. But I wonder whether a thicker material (which can withstand 100*C) might be more effective at less cost.

I also have the copper hood (Thanks again clasley!!!) so that I can connect a flexible dryer hose and bend it towards my stovetop hood extractor. (SWAMBO can't stand the smell of the boil But hey! - At least she doesn't drink my beer either. ) It makes a perfect grain funnel too.

Makomachine here uses these Fagor pressure cooker gaskets. I have 2 ready to go as soon as my kitchen reno is complete.

**** This boughten beer is so F'n inferior.

I am not using a pick-up tube. I wait for all the trub, hops, etc. to settle-out after whirlpooling and before starting to send the cooled wort to the fermenter. The 20L BM is light and easy to tilt so that very little precious liquid is wasted.

Keep us posted emanz.

 

[CS223]

Could someone put a tape measure on the 20L malt pipe and give me a height & inside diameter? Got an idea rattling around in my head.

 

[dinnerstick]

20L malt pipe height: 36 cm, ID: 27 cm

 

[emanz1]

Wasp, Thanks for the words of encouragement and helpful offerings. My thinking on the dip tube was that it might get some of that precious wort out (without tipping) and provide some contact with copper. Am I delusional or did I pick up somewhere in all my lurking on the brewing forums that boiling wort likes, dare I say even benefits, from some contact with copper? Anyone else heard that?

Thanks again, looking forward to getting all the prep work done so I can crunch some grain and do something fun.

 

[digitaldeluge]

I just got my 20l in the mail to day and there appears to be no shipping damage! YAY! Now if I only did not have to wait until November for my Speidel 30l fermenters. I guess I'll run a more convenient 240 outlet in the meantime, and make a power cord I didn't think my Braumeister would be here this quick and don't make one yet. I can almost taste the beer, and I'm going to imagine it tastes great!
For those who have some brews in how do the stickers hold up (I already removed the warning one from above the logo), I usually strip the stickers off everything and wanted to know if they get funny from the heat / moisture Thanks! in advance

 

[DeGarre]

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For those who have some brews in how do the stickers hold up (I already removed the warning one from above the logo), I usually strip the stickers off everything and wanted to know if they get funny from the heat / moisture Thanks! in advance

Stickers hold and are after 31 brews as new.

 

[Obliviousbrew]

Stickers will hold, the only thing don´t do what I did on my 3rd or 4th brew I´ve use some stainless steel cleaner to make the outside shiney and that kind of decolered the stickers but they are holding just fine and I don´t thing they´ll get peel off in years.

 

[rafinus]

Hi, could you post the external dimensions too? And if you have a good soul the thickness of the steel?

Thanks a lot...

 

[rafinus]

20L malt pipe height: 36 cm, ID: 27 cm

Hi, could you post the external dimensions too? And if you have a good soul the thickness of the steel?

Thanks a lot...