Random Beer Thoughts

[FoudreGuy]

Also WTF Texas.

the state’s law preventing production breweries from selling to-go beer

So all breweries can't sell bottles to go or just those without taproooms/beer gardens/brewpubs?

 

[Sage1]

Who the **** is buying that much BrewDog?

They’re absolutely massive in the UK – I gather it’s kind of the default option for people looking for a “craft beer” bent. London alone has 21 operational BrewDog pubs.

 

[mateoloco]

https://thedrinknation.com/articles...cation-Now-Makes-a-Gin-Barrel-Aged-Cold-Brew#

lurchingbeast

 

[lb304854]

https://thedrinknation.com/articles...cation-Now-Makes-a-Gin-Barrel-Aged-Cold-Brew#

lurchingbeast

 

[FoudreGuy]

https://thedrinknation.com/articles...cation-Now-Makes-a-Gin-Barrel-Aged-Cold-Brew#

lurchingbeast

I took my in-laws to the Roastery and had that, was pretty pretty pretty good.

 

[BadJustin]

Mmmmmmm Coconut Rye Parabola. Wood bang.

 

[WhalezB4Rarez]

Also WTF Texas.

And people give PA crap.

 

[Lutter]

So all breweries can't sell bottles to go or just those without taproooms/beer gardens/brewpubs?

The laws here are ******* stupid.

So "production" breweries can have a taproom and sell beer on-premises if they're under 225,000bbls per year and a maximum of 5,000 bbls of that can be sold on-site. No off-premises at all. No growlers, no nothing. Drink your beer there. There's a limit to how much beer you can sell on-site, but it's pretty high, so it's not an issue. With a Production license you have no limits to the amount of beer you can make, you can use a distributor or self-distribute (up to I wanna say 40,000bbls). Production brewery examples: Budweiser. MillerCoors. Saint Arnold. Austin Beerworks. Oskar Blues. Live Oak Brewing. Deep Ellum. Mostly the "bigger breweries" because it makes zero sense to be in this category unless you're making over 10,000bbls of beer per year....

"Brewpub" licensed breweries can sell beer on and off-premises any freaking way they want to. They can sell you a growler, a crowler, a 6-pack, or even a keg. A couple places will even fill your corny kegs for you. Or a shoe. I heard someone filled a tennis ball container once. Though they're called a "pub" they're not required to sell food. Brewpubs can self-distribute ONLY if they only carry their own beer. If they carry "guest" beers they must use a distributor. The production limit is 10,000bbls per location with a max 20,000bbls. Freetail has a "production" location just so they can extend out the amount of beer they make under their brewpub license as an example. Examples of Brewpubs: Jester King. Pinthouse Pizza. ... and literally 95% of Austin's other breweries. Lots of places have switched from Production to Brewpub in the last couple years.

I could go on about this **** forever.

 

[Der Fuchs]

so, glyphosate from monsanto's roundup that's used in barleyfields/vinyards is leaching inorganic arsenic into wine/beer. 2.11ppb average for the big 3 beer producers (1ppt is confirmed to stimulate cancer growth) and even higher for SN/SA/big craft brands given they use less rice than the big 3. It's even leaching into organic barley farms. you cant wash, clean, burn off, dry off, or boil off glyphosate.


beer portion of testing (more needs to be done as this was originally focused on wine):


Large Conventional beer brands: Anheuser Busch Busch Light, Coors Light The Silver Bullet Beer, Anheuser Busch Busch Light, Anheuser Busch Natural Ice Lager, Anheuser Busch - Bud Light Platinum beer, Budweiser 'America E Pluribus Unum' beer, Budweiser Bud Light Lager Beer, Anheuser Busch Busch Light, Anheuser Busch Busch Beer, Anheuser Busch Bud Lite Lime, Coors Brewing Co. Banquet Beer, Anheuser Busch Natural Light Beer, Pabst Blue Ribbon Beer, Coors Brewing Co. Keystone Light Beer, Michelob Ultra Light Beer, Miller Brewing Co. Limited Edition Lite, Miller Brewing Co. High Life, Blue Moon Brewing Co. Belgian White and Belgian-Style Wheat Ale, Leinenkugel's Summer Shandy Weiss Beer.

Independent- Samuel Adams Octoberfest Hearty & Smooth Marzen, Sierra Nevada Brewing Co. Pale Ale Handcrafted Ale, Yuengling Traditional Lager Original Amber Beer.

USDA Organic- Samuel Smith USDA Organic Pale Ale, Eel River Brewing Co. Porter,

Bison Brewing Organic Honey Basil Beer, Green Fog USDA Organic India Pale Ale, Peak Organic Brewing Company USDA Organic India Pale Ale.

Tests by Health Research Institute Laboratories in Iowa.




This may be a actual issue thing going forward. If you have the time I urge you to express your concern to the EPA who is currently reviewing the registration of this and other herbicides.

https://www.regulations.gov/document?D=EPA-HQ-OPP-2009-0361-0066

(case 0178 for this specific chemical)

 

[FoudreGuy]

The laws here are ******* stupid.

"Brewpub" licensed breweries can sell beer on and off-premises any freaking way they want to. They can sell you a growler, a crowler, a 6-pack, or even a keg. A couple places will even fill your corny kegs for you. Or a shoe. I heard someone filled a tennis ball container once. Though they're called a "pub" they're not required to sell food. Brewpubs can self-distribute ONLY if they only carry their own beer. If they carry "guest" beers they must use a distributor. The production limit is 10,000bbls per location with a max 20,000bbls. Freetail has a "production" location just so they can extend out the amount of beer they make under their brewpub license as an example. Examples of Brewpubs: Jester King. Pinthouse Pizza. ... and literally 95% of Austin's other breweries. Lots of places have switched from Production to Brewpub in the last couple years.

I could go on about this **** forever.

How does Jester King deal with the fact that they sell beers from other breweries to go? I know my parents got me some Yellow Rose 750's there in the past.

 

[Lutter]

How does Jester King deal with the fact that they sell beers from other breweries to go? I know my parents got me some Yellow Rose 750's there in the past.

They use a distributor to sell their beer off-site (Flood Distributing), so it's fine. They're allowed to carry a separate "Off Premises Beer/Wine Retailer (BG)" license. It's the same kind of license that a 7-11 would have.

 

[jivex5k1]

so, glyphosate from monsanto's roundup that's used in barleyfields/vinyards is leaching inorganic arsenic into wine/beer. 2.11ppb average for the big 3 beer producers (1ppt is confirmed to stimulate cancer growth) and even higher for SN/SA/big craft brands given they use less rice than the big 3. It's even leaching into organic barley farms. you cant wash, clean, burn off, dry off, or boil off glyphosate.


beer portion of testing (more needs to be done as this was originally focused on wine):


Large Conventional beer brands: Anheuser Busch Busch Light, Coors Light The Silver Bullet Beer, Anheuser Busch Busch Light, Anheuser Busch Natural Ice Lager, Anheuser Busch - Bud Light Platinum beer, Budweiser 'America E Pluribus Unum' beer, Budweiser Bud Light Lager Beer, Anheuser Busch Busch Light, Anheuser Busch Busch Beer, Anheuser Busch Bud Lite Lime, Coors Brewing Co. Banquet Beer, Anheuser Busch Natural Light Beer, Pabst Blue Ribbon Beer, Coors Brewing Co. Keystone Light Beer, Michelob Ultra Light Beer, Miller Brewing Co. Limited Edition Lite, Miller Brewing Co. High Life, Blue Moon Brewing Co. Belgian White and Belgian-Style Wheat Ale, Leinenkugel's Summer Shandy Weiss Beer.

Independent- Samuel Adams Octoberfest Hearty & Smooth Marzen, Sierra Nevada Brewing Co. Pale Ale Handcrafted Ale, Yuengling Traditional Lager Original Amber Beer.

USDA Organic- Samuel Smith USDA Organic Pale Ale, Eel River Brewing Co. Porter,

Bison Brewing Organic Honey Basil Beer, Green Fog USDA Organic India Pale Ale, Peak Organic Brewing Company USDA Organic India Pale Ale.

Tests by Health Research Institute Laboratories in Iowa.




This may be a actual issue thing going forward. If you have the time I urge you to express your concern to the EPA who is currently reviewing the registration of this and other herbicides.

https://www.regulations.gov/document?D=EPA-HQ-OPP-2009-0361-0066

(case 0178 for this specific chemical)

Wait. Just tell me if I'm going to get cancer or not.

 

[Der Fuchs]

Wait. Just tell me if I'm going to get cancer or not.

Adult American male?


Its 50/50

 

[reverseapachemaster1]

They use a distributor to sell their beer off-site (Flood Distributing), so it's fine. They're allowed to carry a separate "Off Premises Beer/Wine Retailer (BG)" license. It's the same kind of license that a 7-11 would have.

No. A BG is a retail beer/wine permit that allows on and off premises consumption of beer and wine (below ABV thresholds). A 7-11 typically does not have on-premises consumption.

Jester King can sell its own beer and other beer on and off premises under the combination of its retail permit (BG) and its manufacturing license (BP). It cannot sell liquor at all and it can self-distribute its own beer regardless of its on premises sales of other breweries' products.

 

[jivex5k1]

Adult American male?


Its 50/50

It that true? God damn.

 

[arren]

so, glyphosate from monsanto's roundup that's used in barleyfields/vinyards is leaching inorganic arsenic into wine/beer. 2.11ppb average for the big 3 beer producers (1ppt is confirmed to stimulate cancer growth) and even higher for SN/SA/big craft brands given they use less rice than the big 3. It's even leaching into organic barley farms. you cant wash, clean, burn off, dry off, or boil off glyphosate.


beer portion of testing (more needs to be done as this was originally focused on wine):


Large Conventional beer brands: Anheuser Busch Busch Light, Coors Light The Silver Bullet Beer, Anheuser Busch Busch Light, Anheuser Busch Natural Ice Lager, Anheuser Busch - Bud Light Platinum beer, Budweiser 'America E Pluribus Unum' beer, Budweiser Bud Light Lager Beer, Anheuser Busch Busch Light, Anheuser Busch Busch Beer, Anheuser Busch Bud Lite Lime, Coors Brewing Co. Banquet Beer, Anheuser Busch Natural Light Beer, Pabst Blue Ribbon Beer, Coors Brewing Co. Keystone Light Beer, Michelob Ultra Light Beer, Miller Brewing Co. Limited Edition Lite, Miller Brewing Co. High Life, Blue Moon Brewing Co. Belgian White and Belgian-Style Wheat Ale, Leinenkugel's Summer Shandy Weiss Beer.

Independent- Samuel Adams Octoberfest Hearty & Smooth Marzen, Sierra Nevada Brewing Co. Pale Ale Handcrafted Ale, Yuengling Traditional Lager Original Amber Beer.

USDA Organic- Samuel Smith USDA Organic Pale Ale, Eel River Brewing Co. Porter,

Bison Brewing Organic Honey Basil Beer, Green Fog USDA Organic India Pale Ale, Peak Organic Brewing Company USDA Organic India Pale Ale.

Tests by Health Research Institute Laboratories in Iowa.




This may be a actual issue thing going forward. If you have the time I urge you to express your concern to the EPA who is currently reviewing the registration of this and other herbicides.

https://www.regulations.gov/document?D=EPA-HQ-OPP-2009-0361-0066

(case 0178 for this specific chemical)

Direct link to this study?

I can't find anything directly related to this on the Internet - and every website that mentions this study has a distinct conspiracy-pseudoscience vibe.

There's been concerns of arsenic in beer since 2013, and they've largely been overstated or overly alarmist in nature.

Additionally, my rule of thumb is that I tend to take things with a massive grain of arsenic-laced salt when the Food Babe appears on page 1 of SERP.

 

[Der Fuchs]

It that true? God damn.

yep. 1 in 2 males. 1 in 3 females.

 

[Lutter]

No. A BG is a retail beer/wine permit that allows on and off premises consumption of beer and wine (below ABV thresholds). A 7-11 typically does not have on-premises consumption.

Jester King can sell its own beer and other beer on and off premises under the combination of its retail permit (BG) and its manufacturing license (BP). It cannot sell liquor at all and it can self-distribute its own beer regardless of its on premises sales of other breweries' products.

Gawd Whole Foods then. Heh.

 

[Der Fuchs]

Direct link to this study?

I can't find anything directly related to this on the Internet - and every website that mentions this study has a distinct conspiracy-pseudoscience vibe.

There's been concerns of arsenic in beer since 2013, and they've largely been overstated or overly alarmist in nature.

Additionally, my rule of thumb is that I tend to take things with a massive grain of arsenic-laced salt when the Food Babe appears on page 1 of SERP.

**** food babe. there is more than this, but i'm done retreading my search history.

a start from the BA:

"Brewers do not want glyphosate used on barley or any raw brewing material, and the barley grower organizations have also come out strongly against glyphosate. It is clear that the malting and brewing industries are aligned in their opposition to the use of glyphosate on malting barley."

science side (french): https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S221475001730149X

science side (german): https://www.br.de/mediathek/video/n...glyphosat-im-bier-av:599ee7eaef58410013e75115
https://sustainablepulse.com/2016/0...inogen-glyphosate-contamination/#.WrvgiIj4-Ul

link to cancer: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23756170

 

[danbanana]

yep. 1 in 2 males. 1 in 3 females.

Actually, it's probably 1 in 1 for both. People just die from other things beforehand. We're cancer machines, yo.

 

[ggfunk]

link to cancer: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23756170

I ain't clicking that.

 

[andrewdrinks]

I just spotted this article and it blew my mind.

https://www.brewbound.com/news/pres...17-federal-judge-rules-brewery-go-sales-texas



Who the **** is buying that much BrewDog?

Dead Pony Club is a perfect fridge beer. I’d buy it here if it was available, literally nothing in that sub-4% market around here.

 

[FoudreGuy]

Dead Pony Club is a perfect fridge beer. I’d buy it here if it was available, literally nothing in that sub-4% market around here.

Field 41 is only 4.5% and damn near amazing. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

 

[Der Fuchs]

I ain't clicking that.

Its an abstract for a paper on the nat. Library of medicine/nat. Institute of health site showing that glyphosate is cancerous.

 

[Der Fuchs]

Its an abstract for a paper on the nat. Library of medicine/nat. Institute of health site showing that glyphosate is cancerous.

ncbi is the national center for biotechnology information btw. the link is quite harmless.

 

[PHBoiler]

Its an abstract for a paper on the nat. Library of medicine/nat. Institute of health site showing that glyphosate is cancerous.

ncbi is the national center for biotechnology information btw. the link is quite harmless.

I'm pretty positive he's making a light-hearted joke because it's labeled "link to cancer." The joke being that the link takes you to cancer wherein you get cancer.

 

[Der Fuchs]

I'm pretty positive he's making a light-hearted joke because it's labeled "link to cancer." The joke being that the link takes you to cancer wherein you get cancer.

yep. well **** me.

 

[jivex5k1]

Whoever it was that mentioned the international page of beer hauls and pictures and other stuff facebook group, **** you. Also thanks.

 

[beerindex]

Does this sort of stuff get tapped at their DC location?

no, and never will unless they get some sort of refrigerated transport system or do some on site trickery/blending in DC

my understanding of these bruesicles is that at kegging time they add a ton of sugary things that will ferment out if not kept cold

Evidently that has changed. Email went out to DC Society members today that they're getting their first Bruesicle today, available in crowlers, and that this will be a monthly occurrence.

 

[JulianB1]

Whoever it was that mentioned the international page of beer hauls and pictures and other stuff facebook group, **** you. Also thanks.

It might be the only thing I miss about Facebook so far.

Well, that and the British group where everyone posts English breakfast pics and calls each other see you en tees.