Random Beer Thoughts

[wuntrikpony]

FB post for those that don’t FB (JulianB )

‘spreads the word’

 

[JulianB1]

How much do you want to bet that a bunch of these people bitching are also selling cans on the secondary market?

 

[FoudreGuy]

Maybe if you weren’t spreading the word there’d be no need for a lottery.

How much do you want to bet that a bunch of these people bitching are also selling cans on the secondary market?

Probably. Is there some sort of special packaged release being sold at this party?

 

[Fahmie25]

Also, this one was in response to the guy above (apparently he went to both twitter and Facebook to voice his concerns)

Half his salary!

 

[user 312341]

Half his salary!

I mean...

A bunch of these people bitching are also selling cans on the secondary market.

I am pretty sure these ******** recycle the same whiny entitled brat post and just change the brewery name whenever this happens. See also, especially: Kane releases (or maybe that just comes to mind most because I live here).

 

[ggfunk]

Also, this one was in response to the guy above (apparently he went to both twitter and Facebook to voice his concerns)

Half his salary!

 

[user 312341]

Alternatively...

 

[stakem1]

FB post for those that don’t FB (JulianB )

“Standing in line for for a whole year” made me shoot coffee out my nose.

 

[WhalezB4Rarez]

I went looking for more info on this Tree House Lottery when I saw this photo and I got triggered. My box of crayons contains too much yellow/orange.

 

[Saind]

I went looking for more info on this Tree House Lottery when I saw this photo and I got triggered. My box of crayons contains too much yellow/orange.

Are there breweries specialized in hazy beers that just do an IPA instead of 11 slightly different IPA's?

 

[boogercrack]

Are there breweries specialized in hazy beers that just do an IPA instead of 11 slightly different IPA's?

Because beer is dumb, if you only made 1 IPA it'd limit your sales. 11 different IPAs, people are more likely to OMG BUY EM ALL.

 

[RyanG1]

Also, this one was in response to the guy above (apparently he went to both twitter and Facebook to voice his concerns)

Half his salary!

**** a mortgage. I’m redirecting it towards cans hazy futures.

 

[danidavid]

**** a mortgage. I’m redirecting it towards cans hazy futures.

A risk taker I see, Glasswhalez futures are much more stable and a greater long term investment

 

[nathanmiller]

I'd actually like to explore the idea of spending half your income on beer, as a thought experiment.

The median household income of Charlton, MA is $91287. Let's assume this guy is a household because I'm having trouble finding median income of individuals after 2010, which seems like pretty stale data.

I'm going to assume this person does NOT own a house, as they're not being fiscally responsible regarding beer and also most millennials don't own homes. (I'm also assuming this person is a millennial.)

So on $91287 without home ownership, there's $9641 of Federal income tax, $6983 in FICA withholding, and $4207 in MA income tax. That leaves our guy with $70456 in take-home money, assuming a lot of very generous things (i.e. 100% healthcare coverage without payroll deductions, no retirement payroll deductions, etc.)

Now, of that 70456, he's spending $45643.50 on beer at Tree House. Let's assume this is literally the ONLY beer he EVER buys and that's his entire alcohol expenditure. That would leave him with $24812.50 to spend on food, rent, transportation, and the inevitable divorce lawyer fees, or $2067.71 per month.

That's... not terrible. The average rent in Charlton for a 2BR is apparently $1145. Let's be generous and assume his home has all utilities included. We're down to $922.71. Let's say he drives to and from work and to and from Tree House (since he spends most of his time in line, he's probably not driving too many other places) and luckily he met his life partner at work so they only need one car. Let's say he owns his car outright and spends $90 per month on gasoline, $110 per month on car insurance, and spends $140 per month on two cellphone bills and the amortized cost of a new phone every two years. I'm probably missing stuff here (Netflix, Amazon, etc...) so let's drop another $30 on whatever I'm forgetting.

That leaves he and his partner with $552.71 for food and incidentals.

I mean, as crazy as I thought this would be when I started out, if you live according to terrible principals of future-planning, already own a car, and have an employer that covers healthcare, and all the other generous assumptions I've made above, you can probably indeed spend half your income at Tree House and even have room for an occasional beer elsewhere. Granted, you'd have no savings and likely be unable to enjoy much else.

Also, you spend forty five thousand dollars at a single brewery every year.

 

[stakem1]

I'd actually like to explore the idea of spending half your income on beer, as a thought experiment.

The median household income of Charlton, MA is $91287. Let's assume this guy is a household because I'm having trouble finding median income of individuals after 2010, which seems like pretty stale data.

I'm going to assume this person does NOT own a house, as they're not being fiscally responsible regarding beer and also most millennials don't own homes. (I'm also assuming this person is a millennial.)

So on $91287 without home ownership, there's $9641 of Federal income tax, $6983 in FICA withholding, and $4207 in MA income tax. That leaves our guy with $70456 in take-home money, assuming a lot of very generous things (i.e. 100% healthcare coverage without payroll deductions, no retirement payroll deductions, etc.)

Now, of that 70456, he's spending $45643.50 on beer at Tree House. Let's assume this is literally the ONLY beer he EVER buys and that's his entire alcohol expenditure. That would leave him with $24812.50 to spend on food, rent, transportation, and the inevitable divorce lawyer fees, or $2067.71 per month.

That's... not terrible. The average rent in Charlton for a 2BR is apparently $1145. Let's be generous and assume his home has all utilities included. We're down to $922.71. Let's say he drives to and from work and to and from Tree House (since he spends most of his time in line, he's probably not driving too many other places) and luckily he met his life partner at work so they only need one car. Let's say he owns his car outright and spends $90 per month on gasoline, $110 per month on car insurance, and spends $140 per month on two cellphone bills and the amortized cost of a new phone every two years. I'm probably missing stuff here (Netflix, Amazon, etc...) so let's drop another $30 on whatever I'm forgetting.

That leaves he and his partner with $552.71 for food and incidentals.

I mean, as crazy as I thought this would be when I started out, if you live according to terrible principals of future-planning, already own a car, and have an employer that covers healthcare, and all the other generous assumptions I've made above, you can probably indeed spend half your income at Tree House and even have room for an occasional beer elsewhere. Granted, you'd have no savings and likely be unable to enjoy much else.

Also, you spend forty five thousand dollars at a single brewery every year.

Im all for wasting time at work....But this is next level analysis of something im almost certain was exaggerated knee jerk social media butt hurt drama.

 

[cry me]

no way my man is a 'household'

 

[iamjeff6]

I'd actually like to explore the idea of spending half your income on beer, as a thought experiment.

The median household income of Charlton, MA is $91287. Let's assume this guy is a household because I'm having trouble finding median income of individuals after 2010, which seems like pretty stale data.

I'm going to assume this person does NOT own a house, as they're not being fiscally responsible regarding beer and also most millennials don't own homes. (I'm also assuming this person is a millennial.)

So on $91287 without home ownership, there's $9641 of Federal income tax, $6983 in FICA withholding, and $4207 in MA income tax. That leaves our guy with $70456 in take-home money, assuming a lot of very generous things (i.e. 100% healthcare coverage without payroll deductions, no retirement payroll deductions, etc.)

Now, of that 70456, he's spending $45643.50 on beer at Tree House. Let's assume this is literally the ONLY beer he EVER buys and that's his entire alcohol expenditure. That would leave him with $24812.50 to spend on food, rent, transportation, and the inevitable divorce lawyer fees, or $2067.71 per month.

That's... not terrible. The average rent in Charlton for a 2BR is apparently $1145. Let's be generous and assume his home has all utilities included. We're down to $922.71. Let's say he drives to and from work and to and from Tree House (since he spends most of his time in line, he's probably not driving too many other places) and luckily he met his life partner at work so they only need one car. Let's say he owns his car outright and spends $90 per month on gasoline, $110 per month on car insurance, and spends $140 per month on two cellphone bills and the amortized cost of a new phone every two years. I'm probably missing stuff here (Netflix, Amazon, etc...) so let's drop another $30 on whatever I'm forgetting.

That leaves he and his partner with $552.71 for food and incidentals.

I mean, as crazy as I thought this would be when I started out, if you live according to terrible principals of future-planning, already own a car, and have an employer that covers healthcare, and all the other generous assumptions I've made above, you can probably indeed spend half your income at Tree House and even have room for an occasional beer elsewhere. Granted, you'd have no savings and likely be unable to enjoy much else.

Also, you spend forty five thousand dollars at a single brewery every year.

But will 45,000$ of beer fit into a 2BR house? assuming he is spending all on cans.

 

[drgarage1]

no way my man is a 'household'

Only by weight

 

[danidavid]

I'd actually like to explore the idea of spending half your income on beer, as a thought experiment.

The median household income of Charlton, MA is $91287. Let's assume this guy is a household because I'm having trouble finding median income of individuals after 2010, which seems like pretty stale data.

I'm going to assume this person does NOT own a house, as they're not being fiscally responsible regarding beer and also most millennials don't own homes. (I'm also assuming this person is a millennial.)

So on $91287 without home ownership, there's $9641 of Federal income tax, $6983 in FICA withholding, and $4207 in MA income tax. That leaves our guy with $70456 in take-home money, assuming a lot of very generous things (i.e. 100% healthcare coverage without payroll deductions, no retirement payroll deductions, etc.)

Now, of that 70456, he's spending $45643.50 on beer at Tree House. Let's assume this is literally the ONLY beer he EVER buys and that's his entire alcohol expenditure. That would leave him with $24812.50 to spend on food, rent, transportation, and the inevitable divorce lawyer fees, or $2067.71 per month.

That's... not terrible. The average rent in Charlton for a 2BR is apparently $1145. Let's be generous and assume his home has all utilities included. We're down to $922.71. Let's say he drives to and from work and to and from Tree House (since he spends most of his time in line, he's probably not driving too many other places) and luckily he met his life partner at work so they only need one car. Let's say he owns his car outright and spends $90 per month on gasoline, $110 per month on car insurance, and spends $140 per month on two cellphone bills and the amortized cost of a new phone every two years. I'm probably missing stuff here (Netflix, Amazon, etc...) so let's drop another $30 on whatever I'm forgetting.

That leaves he and his partner with $552.71 for food and incidentals.

I mean, as crazy as I thought this would be when I started out, if you live according to terrible principals of future-planning, already own a car, and have an employer that covers healthcare, and all the other generous assumptions I've made above, you can probably indeed spend half your income at Tree House and even have room for an occasional beer elsewhere. Granted, you'd have no savings and likely be unable to enjoy much else.

Also, you spend forty five thousand dollars at a single brewery every year.

You forgot to include his Fedex/UPS/USPS for shipping. Also the income he receives from selling said cans, overall quality analysis!

 

[WhalezB4Rarez]

I'd actually like to explore the idea of spending half your income on beer, as a thought experiment.

The median household income of Charlton, MA is $91287. Let's assume this guy is a household because I'm having trouble finding median income of individuals after 2010, which seems like pretty stale data.

I'm going to assume this person does NOT own a house, as they're not being fiscally responsible regarding beer and also most millennials don't own homes. (I'm also assuming this person is a millennial.)

So on $91287 without home ownership, there's $9641 of Federal income tax, $6983 in FICA withholding, and $4207 in MA income tax. That leaves our guy with $70456 in take-home money, assuming a lot of very generous things (i.e. 100% healthcare coverage without payroll deductions, no retirement payroll deductions, etc.)

Now, of that 70456, he's spending $45643.50 on beer at Tree House. Let's assume this is literally the ONLY beer he EVER buys and that's his entire alcohol expenditure. That would leave him with $24812.50 to spend on food, rent, transportation, and the inevitable divorce lawyer fees, or $2067.71 per month.

That's... not terrible. The average rent in Charlton for a 2BR is apparently $1145. Let's be generous and assume his home has all utilities included. We're down to $922.71. Let's say he drives to and from work and to and from Tree House (since he spends most of his time in line, he's probably not driving too many other places) and luckily he met his life partner at work so they only need one car. Let's say he owns his car outright and spends $90 per month on gasoline, $110 per month on car insurance, and spends $140 per month on two cellphone bills and the amortized cost of a new phone every two years. I'm probably missing stuff here (Netflix, Amazon, etc...) so let's drop another $30 on whatever I'm forgetting.

That leaves he and his partner with $552.71 for food and incidentals.

I mean, as crazy as I thought this would be when I started out, if you live according to terrible principals of future-planning, already own a car, and have an employer that covers healthcare, and all the other generous assumptions I've made above, you can probably indeed spend half your income at Tree House and even have room for an occasional beer elsewhere. Granted, you'd have no savings and likely be unable to enjoy much else.

Also, you spend forty five thousand dollars at a single brewery every year.

If Tree House started a society that was $50,000 and included full allotments of every release without waiting in a general population line how many people would take up that offer?

 

[stupac2]

I'd actually like to explore the idea of spending half your income on beer, as a thought experiment.

The median household income of Charlton, MA is $91287. Let's assume this guy is a household because I'm having trouble finding median income of individuals after 2010, which seems like pretty stale data.

I'm going to assume this person does NOT own a house, as they're not being fiscally responsible regarding beer and also most millennials don't own homes. (I'm also assuming this person is a millennial.)

So on $91287 without home ownership, there's $9641 of Federal income tax, $6983 in FICA withholding, and $4207 in MA income tax. That leaves our guy with $70456 in take-home money, assuming a lot of very generous things (i.e. 100% healthcare coverage without payroll deductions, no retirement payroll deductions, etc.)

Now, of that 70456, he's spending $45643.50 on beer at Tree House. Let's assume this is literally the ONLY beer he EVER buys and that's his entire alcohol expenditure. That would leave him with $24812.50 to spend on food, rent, transportation, and the inevitable divorce lawyer fees, or $2067.71 per month.

That's... not terrible. The average rent in Charlton for a 2BR is apparently $1145. Let's be generous and assume his home has all utilities included. We're down to $922.71. Let's say he drives to and from work and to and from Tree House (since he spends most of his time in line, he's probably not driving too many other places) and luckily he met his life partner at work so they only need one car. Let's say he owns his car outright and spends $90 per month on gasoline, $110 per month on car insurance, and spends $140 per month on two cellphone bills and the amortized cost of a new phone every two years. I'm probably missing stuff here (Netflix, Amazon, etc...) so let's drop another $30 on whatever I'm forgetting.

That leaves he and his partner with $552.71 for food and incidentals.

I mean, as crazy as I thought this would be when I started out, if you live according to terrible principals of future-planning, already own a car, and have an employer that covers healthcare, and all the other generous assumptions I've made above, you can probably indeed spend half your income at Tree House and even have room for an occasional beer elsewhere. Granted, you'd have no savings and likely be unable to enjoy much else.

Also, you spend forty five thousand dollars at a single brewery every year.

I'm not sure this is the most ridiculous part of it, thanks to:

no way my man is a 'household'

Only by weight

Let's start with your assumption that he's spending ~$45,600 on beer a year. It looks like Treehouse's cans are pretty cheap, but let's say they're $5 each. Let's also say that every time he goes there (which is apparently every day) he spends $14 on two $7 pints (I couldn't find prices so just guessed). So that's $5,110 on drafts, and ~8,100 cans. Let's say he sells/gives away 3/4 of them but drinks 1/4, that's 2,000 beers or 5.5/day. IIRC Treehouse cans are pints so he's at 7.5 pints/day of beer (which is obviously well into alcoholic territory), but let's be generous and say it's all regular IPA (no doubles or higher ABV stuff, but also no lower stuff). Based on OG/FG notes I found for homebrew clones of Julius a pint has ~300 calories, and our buddy is having 7.5/day or a whopping 2250 just from beer.

So, yeah, our hypothetical Treehouse homie would be his own household.

 

[lb304854]

I'd actually like to explore the idea of spending half your income on beer, as a thought experiment.

The median household income of Charlton, MA is $91287. Let's assume this guy is a household because I'm having trouble finding median income of individuals after 2010, which seems like pretty stale data.

I'm going to assume this person does NOT own a house, as they're not being fiscally responsible regarding beer and also most millennials don't own homes. (I'm also assuming this person is a millennial.)

So on $91287 without home ownership, there's $9641 of Federal income tax, $6983 in FICA withholding, and $4207 in MA income tax. That leaves our guy with $70456 in take-home money, assuming a lot of very generous things (i.e. 100% healthcare coverage without payroll deductions, no retirement payroll deductions, etc.)

Now, of that 70456, he's spending $45643.50 on beer at Tree House. Let's assume this is literally the ONLY beer he EVER buys and that's his entire alcohol expenditure. That would leave him with $24812.50 to spend on food, rent, transportation, and the inevitable divorce lawyer fees, or $2067.71 per month.

That's... not terrible. The average rent in Charlton for a 2BR is apparently $1145. Let's be generous and assume his home has all utilities included. We're down to $922.71. Let's say he drives to and from work and to and from Tree House (since he spends most of his time in line, he's probably not driving too many other places) and luckily he met his life partner at work so they only need one car. Let's say he owns his car outright and spends $90 per month on gasoline, $110 per month on car insurance, and spends $140 per month on two cellphone bills and the amortized cost of a new phone every two years. I'm probably missing stuff here (Netflix, Amazon, etc...) so let's drop another $30 on whatever I'm forgetting.

That leaves he and his partner with $552.71 for food and incidentals.

I mean, as crazy as I thought this would be when I started out, if you live according to terrible principals of future-planning, already own a car, and have an employer that covers healthcare, and all the other generous assumptions I've made above, you can probably indeed spend half your income at Tree House and even have room for an occasional beer elsewhere. Granted, you'd have no savings and likely be unable to enjoy much else.

Also, you spend forty five thousand dollars at a single brewery every year.

nathanmiller'd

 

[jammery]

I'd actually like to explore the idea of spending half your income on beer, as a thought experiment.

The median household income of Charlton, MA is $91287. Let's assume this guy is a household because I'm having trouble finding median income of individuals after 2010, which seems like pretty stale data.

I'm going to assume this person does NOT own a house, as they're not being fiscally responsible regarding beer and also most millennials don't own homes. (I'm also assuming this person is a millennial.)

So on $91287 without home ownership, there's $9641 of Federal income tax, $6983 in FICA withholding, and $4207 in MA income tax. That leaves our guy with $70456 in take-home money, assuming a lot of very generous things (i.e. 100% healthcare coverage without payroll deductions, no retirement payroll deductions, etc.)

Now, of that 70456, he's spending $45643.50 on beer at Tree House. Let's assume this is literally the ONLY beer he EVER buys and that's his entire alcohol expenditure. That would leave him with $24812.50 to spend on food, rent, transportation, and the inevitable divorce lawyer fees, or $2067.71 per month.

That's... not terrible. The average rent in Charlton for a 2BR is apparently $1145. Let's be generous and assume his home has all utilities included. We're down to $922.71. Let's say he drives to and from work and to and from Tree House (since he spends most of his time in line, he's probably not driving too many other places) and luckily he met his life partner at work so they only need one car. Let's say he owns his car outright and spends $90 per month on gasoline, $110 per month on car insurance, and spends $140 per month on two cellphone bills and the amortized cost of a new phone every two years. I'm probably missing stuff here (Netflix, Amazon, etc...) so let's drop another $30 on whatever I'm forgetting.

That leaves he and his partner with $552.71 for food and incidentals.

I mean, as crazy as I thought this would be when I started out, if you live according to terrible principals of future-planning, already own a car, and have an employer that covers healthcare, and all the other generous assumptions I've made above, you can probably indeed spend half your income at Tree House and even have room for an occasional beer elsewhere. Granted, you'd have no savings and likely be unable to enjoy much else.

Also, you spend forty five thousand dollars at a single brewery every year.

I'm assuming he meant net salary, not gross. please redo your calculations.

 

[drgarage1]

I'm assuming he meant net salary, not gross. please redo your calculations.

Fine. He's 0.8 households by weight.

 

[Saind]

Why have I never heard anything about Lagunitas 12th of never? It's new over here and damn, I love it. It's been hot and humid and I think I've gone through a case in the past week

 

[Jnorton00]

Why have I never heard anything about Lagunitas 12th of never? It's new over here and damn, I love it. It's been hot and humid and I think I've gone through a case in the past week

Great easy drinking /cheap hoppy beer. I haven't bough it in a long long time though because they refuse to use a normal dating system and I'm too lazy/dumb to try and decipher the cans for age every time I want it.

 

[drgarage1]

Great easy drinking /cheap hoppy beer. I haven't bough it in a long long time though because they refuse to use a normal dating system and I'm too lazy/dumb to try and decipher the cans for age every time I want it.

The system's pretty easy -- it's just a count of days of the year. That said, the bigger issue is that the date code is often missing.

 

[furley]

The system's pretty easy -- it's just a count of days of the year. That said, the bigger issue is that the date code is often missing.

https://www.quadax.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/11/Julian2018.pdf

 

[Jnorton00]

The system's pretty easy -- it's just a count of days of the year. That said, the bigger issue is that the date code is often missing.

I'm probably just dumb but I feel like their cans always have a bunch of extra numbers and letters on the cans than others who use the julian dating system do.

 

[drgarage1]

I'm probably just dumb but I feel like their cans always have a bunch of extra numbers and letters on the cans than others who use the julian dating system do.

They do. Pretty sure it's just the first three digits for them.