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Same reason why Ballast Point has lately resorted to making nothing but **** like this:

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Man, I still remember when Ballast Point came to MD 3 or 4 years ago. I was so excited to buy that first 6er of Sculpin. And ******* was it good.

I think I bought two 6ers before never seeing a fresh 6 pack again. Then they changed their dating, started making only fruited beers, then I said **** 'em forever.

No idea who buys their stuff. I never see it move.
 
Man, I still remember when Ballast Point came to MD 3 or 4 years ago. I was so excited to buy that first 6er of Sculpin. And ******* was it good.

I think I bought two 6ers before never seeing a fresh 6 pack again. Then they changed their dating, started making only fruited beers, then I said **** 'em forever.

No idea who buys their stuff. I never see it move.

can't keep it on the shelves around here :shrug:
 
I mean, he's not necessarily wrong - those kinds of folks can be a ******* pain in the ass to drink with.

It's kind of funny coming from a guy who happily eats at pretentious-as-**** restaurants.

How is drinking a bunch of 5 ounce sample pours so much weirder than eating a 40 course menu where every food has been turned into gelatin and foam?
 
It's kind of funny coming from a guy who happily eats at pretentious-as-**** restaurants.

How is drinking a bunch of 5 ounce sample pours so much weirder than eating a 40 course menu where every food has been turned into gelatin and foam?
There's definitely a valid point there, but when you see him at those restaurants he clearly looks uncomfortable, like he's out of his element. The most passionate I've ever seen him has been doing **** like eating In-n-Out, or going to Waffle House, or professing his love for KFC mac-n-cheese.

And besides, how many of us are pretentious as **** in one hobby while not really all that discerning in another hobby?
 
There's definitely a valid point there, but when you see him at those restaurants he clearly looks uncomfortable, like he's out of his element. The most passionate I've ever seen him has been doing **** like eating In-n-Out, or going to Waffle House, or professing his love for KFC mac-n-cheese.

He did seem to really enjoy the self-wanking ego fest that is eating at El Bulli, although I guess that's not much different than beer geeks who claim their favorite thing to do is crush IPAs but then indulge in social media-filled whale shares (and I'm guilty as charged on that front). Which leads to...

And besides, how many of us are pretentious as **** in one hobby while not really all that discerning in another hobby?

Point very well taken.
 
I get Bourdain's point - I don't know that he made it super well, but that's kinda his M.O., being brash and speaking in extremes and all that kinda thing. He seems like he's basically saying "have fun with your alcoholic beverages" and that he doesn't see that in a lot of terrible beer people (which I can see). Also seems like he's kinda calling out beer people for being less understanding when someone doesn't like the same things they do (which I also agree with).
 
People don't have to like craft beer. If you had persnickety taste in every single culinary thing, you'd be so far up your own ass you couldn't breathe.

And when craft beer is going so heavily down the road of:
Don't encourage them. This might not be a bad idea, but it's also an excessively lazy idea. Ballast Point's business model since they've been bought out has basically been this:

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it's hard to blame any outsider for regarding the entire niche as silly.
 
When I was a young cook, I loved Bourdain. Reading Kitchen Confedential was right of passage and unlike anything I'd read before. Now, I think he usually just comes off as a bully. If he's just interested in getting a little buzzed maybe he should go back to being a coke head.
 

"'I was in San Francisco, and I was desperate for beer, and I walked into this place...and I noticed there was a wide selection of beers I'd never heard of,' said Bourdain[...]'Which is fine...But I looked around: the entire place was filled with people sitting there with five small glasses in front of them, filled with different beers, taking notes. This is not a bar. This is f---ing Invasion of the Body Snatchers. This is wrong. This is not what a bar is about.'"

monk's kettle i assume
 
"'I was in San Francisco, and I was desperate for beer, and I walked into this place...and I noticed there was a wide selection of beers I'd never heard of,' said Bourdain[...]'Which is fine...But I looked around: the entire place was filled with people sitting there with five small glasses in front of them, filled with different beers, taking notes. This is not a bar. This is f---ing Invasion of the Body Snatchers. This is wrong. This is not what a bar is about.'"

monk's kettle i assume

Why didn't he just go to Toronado? Sounds like it would be right up his alley.
 
I'm with Bourdain on that. Flights can go to hell. I just want my full size beer, I don't want to be stuck behind some indecisive group who want to drink it all.
Nothing worse than having limited time at the bar, knowing what you want and being stuck behind the folks that want to sample everything.

You guys just need to work drinking into your schedule more efficiently. Priorities people!
 
beerindex haha, well, Brewdog were kinda cool at one point. Don't think St. Erik's ever been "cool", not imho anyway. Decent beer I guess, but I hardly ever buy anything from them. I actually think they got some quite negative respons from some about these chips (seen on some social media), even though all proceedings did go to some (unnamed?) charity. And to buy these chips for more than $50 (for 5 chips) and to pair it with their beer (which cost about ~$3.5) seems of (not that cost of beer always correlates with if it's good or not). I have never thought of their beers as being "exclusive" as they claim, though.
 
One of the more bizarre complaints I encounter frequently online is about how some ticketed release or release+fest/party costs too much because there are more bottles included than the person making the complaint wants. The reason I find this weird is not because everyone should want however many bottles are available, but rather because it's dead easy to just sell the extras. And I don't mean shitlording on the secondary market, but just selling them at cost to friends. I know some people will be the exception, but it seems like unloading say, 4 bottles of Hunahpu or whatever for exactly what they cost you should be pretty easy to pull off.
 
One of the more bizarre complaints I encounter frequently online is about how some ticketed release or release+fest/party costs too much because there are more bottles included than the person making the complaint wants. The reason I find this weird is not because everyone should want however many bottles are available, but rather because it's dead easy to just sell the extras. And I don't mean shitlording on the secondary market, but just selling them at cost to friends. I know some people will be the exception, but it seems like unloading say, 4 bottles of Hunahpu or whatever for exactly what they cost you should be pretty easy to pull off.

This.

And if your friends are actually bottles, you end up with way more new friends. Win/win
 
So...after years of not hearing any news, I read today that Thomas Hardy Ale (vintage 2015) was released in the UK with hopes of USA distro next year. In addition to its revival, there will be a "historic version" that is barrel aged.

I havent had a beer boner this hard in awhile.
 
One of the more bizarre complaints I encounter frequently online is about how some ticketed release or release+fest/party costs too much because there are more bottles included than the person making the complaint wants. The reason I find this weird is not because everyone should want however many bottles are available, but rather because it's dead easy to just sell the extras. And I don't mean shitlording on the secondary market, but just selling them at cost to friends. I know some people will be the exception, but it seems like unloading say, 4 bottles of Hunahpu or whatever for exactly what they cost you should be pretty easy to pull off.
Some people don't run in beer-only circles. Shocking I know.
 
Man, I still remember when Ballast Point came to MD 3 or 4 years ago. I was so excited to buy that first 6er of Sculpin. And ******* was it good.

I think I bought two 6ers before never seeing a fresh 6 pack again. Then they changed their dating, started making only fruited beers, then I said **** 'em forever.

No idea who buys their stuff. I never see it move.

My heart died a little more when Victory at Sea went to a seasonal instead of an all time favorite shelf turd.
 
Man, I still remember when Ballast Point came to MD 3 or 4 years ago. I was so excited to buy that first 6er of Sculpin. And ******* was it good.

I think I bought two 6ers before never seeing a fresh 6 pack again. Then they changed their dating, started making only fruited beers, then I said **** 'em forever.

No idea who buys their stuff. I never see it move.
Their fruit stuff definitely moves in Austin.

The stuff at the liquor store is always really fresh, as well as Sculpin.

... ... Watermelon Dorado is one of the worst beers I've ever had. ****. That.

... ... Do enjoy Habanero Sculpin tho, I will admit.
 
So...after years of not hearing any news, I read today that Thomas Hardy Ale (vintage 2015) was released in the UK with hopes of USA distro next year. In addition to its revival, there will be a "historic version" that is barrel aged.

I havent had a beer boner this hard in awhile.
I think Thomas Hardy Ale was one of the best beers I've had, granted that one was about 16 years old.
 
I think Thomas Hardy Ale was one of the best beers I've had, granted that one was about 16 years old.
That's the thing with THA tho, you gotta sit on it for years to let it mature.

I can remember bringing vintage bottles of THA was all the rage when I first started going to bottle shares. Thomas Hardy Ale & JW Lees FTW.
 
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