Putin's Nuclear Stout

[davidcaz]

Hi all!

A friend and I are going to brewing this baby some time next month . This is my first imperial stout and I havent been very successful (IMO) at making a really good stout, (like ever!). The fermentation is always good, and my stouts are irrefutably stouts, but always lacking some of that delicious yum yum character that I taste in other people's stouts.

What do you think of this grain bill? What does it need? What should I remove?

The plan is to load my cooler tun to the max, sparge extra preboil wort, and boil till I reach target gravity; so, the 2-row and red wheat amounts may not be exactly precise.

Putin's Nuclear Stout

10.00 kg Prairie Malt Pale Malt (2.0 SRM) Grain 1 55.6 %
4.00 kg Munich (Cargill) (9.5 SRM) Grain 2 22.2 %
3.00 kg Irp Red Wheat Malt (3.0 SRM) Grain 3 16.7 %
0.50 kg Carafa Special III (Weyermann) (470.0 SRM) Grain 4 2.8 %
0.50 kg Chocolate Malt (350.0 SRM) Grain 5 2.8 %
5.00 oz Chinook [11.00 %] - Boil 60.0 min Hop 6 72.0 IBUs


Gravity, Alcohol Content and Color

Est Original Gravity: 1.094 SG
Est Final Gravity: 1.024 SG
Estimated Alcohol by Vol: 9.4 %
Bitterness: 72.0 IBUs
Est Color: 35.6 SRM

 

[Jwin]

Why the Chinook?
Also, no C malt?
You'll need some sweetness to counter those IBUs
Maybe some c120?

I can attest that the Kate the great clone here on hbt is outstanding

Here's one conversion of the recipe:

17.75 lb Pale Malt (2 Row) US (2.0 SRM) Grain 77.0 %
0.80 lb Barley, Flaked (1.7 SRM) Grain 3.5 %
0.80 lb Special B Malt (180.0 SRM) Grain 3.5 %
0.80 lb Wheat Malt, Dark (9.0 SRM) Grain 3.5 %
0.70 lb Carafa III (525.0 SRM) Grain 3.0 %
0.60 lb Aromatic Malt (26.0 SRM) Grain 2.5 %
0.50 lb Caramel/Crystal Malt - 40L (40.0 SRM) Grain 2.0 %
0.50 lb Roasted Barley (300.0 SRM) Grain 2.0 %
0.25 lb Black (Patent) Malt (500.0 SRM) Grain 1.0 %
0.25 lb Caramel/Crystal Malt -120L (120.0 SRM) Grain 1.0 %
0.25 lb Chocolate Malt (350.0 SRM) Grain 1.0 %

1.2 oz Magnum [14.00%] (75 min) Hops 38.1 IBU
0.80 oz Pearle [8.00%] (75 min) Hops 15.0 IBU
0.80 oz Styrian Goldings [5.40%] (75 min) Hops 10.0 IBU
0.18 oz Centennial [10.00%] (15 min) Hops 2.0 IBU
0.30 oz Palisade [7.50%] (0 min) Hops - 1.0 IBU
0.43 oz Styrian Goldings [5.40%] (0 min) Hops - 1.0 IBU
0.43 oz Williamette [5.50%] (0 min) Hops - 1.0 IBU

 

[Pratzie]

haha love the name.

Now where's the Trump's P&ssy Grabbin' Pale Ale?

 

[Jwin]

haha love the name.

Now where's the Trump's P&ssy Grabbin' Pale Ale?

Grab'em by the Gose

 

[davidcaz]

Why the Chinook?
Also, no C malt?
You'll need some sweetness to counter those IBUs
Maybe some c120?

The chinook is because that is what I have on hand. However, it has a pretty resinous bitterness in my experience. So perhaps I will swap it out for magnum. I dont usually use crystal malts in much anything, unless it be something like Special B. Always add munich to my beers though. Probably why my IPA's are really good but my Stouts are not so good.

What about this grainbill now? Do you think some flavour hops would be preferable? Am I too light on roasty character do you think?

10.00 kg Prairie Malt Pale Malt (2.0 SRM) Grain 1 54.1 %
4.00 kg Munich (Cargill) (9.5 SRM) Grain 2 21.6 %
3.00 kg Irp Red Wheat Malt (3.0 SRM) Grain 3 16.2 %
0.50 kg Carafa Special III (Weyermann) (470.0 SRM) Grain 4 2.7 %
0.50 kg Caramel/Crystal Malt -120L (120.0 SRM) Grain 5 2.7 %
0.25 kg Chocolate Malt (350.0 SRM) Grain 6 1.4 %
0.25 kg Roasted Barley (300.0 SRM) Grain 7 1.4 %
4.00 oz Magnum [12.00 %] - Boil 60.0 min Hop 8 61.7 IBUs
1.0 pkg Safale American (DCL/Fermentis #US-05) [50.28 ml] Yeast 9 -

 

[Jwin]

Grain bill looks better to me. You still just have malt and roast. I assume you are looking for some complexity. Maybe up the chocolate? Coffee malt?

I'm still perplexed by doing all your hops at 60m. Maybe back that off and look at northern Brewer, Golding or cascade later in the boil.

I'm no expert on RIS by any means. Hopefully others will chime in

 

[davidcaz]

Thanks for the feedback. Ill probably up the coffee and roast barley. And add some later addition hops. Will post the final recipe with results to follow. Thanks again!

 

[bigplunkett]

Imo u need some depth in the c malt. I used some 40 and 80 and a little 120 last time. Maby its overkill i thought it was great tho.