Portable Glass Rinser

[AlexKay]

Took about 5 minutes to put together. Works a treat.

 

[day_trippr]

Why?

 

[Deadalus]

Why?

Outside jockey box station? That's what I am building it for primarily but may also consider one for my keezer. My rinser comes tomorrow! This is an option. I personally was looking to mount it near the drip tray that sits at the base of my jockey box. I have different idea but this is a reasonable fall back.

@AlexKay What did you use for the adapter on the feed coming in? Is that a male 3/8" compression by 1/2" female NPT adapter? I found a 3/8" male compression x 1/4" female NPT adapter. Then I had on hand a 1/4" flare x 1/4" male NPT adapter. So supply line to the first adapter then the second and now I can use an old gas line that had swivel barbs already on it and a 1/4 flare ball lock QD. Or vice versa. I had to use a SS adapter for the second one as all the brass ones I had sitting around had check valves going the wrong way.

Oh you must have had a leftover 3/8 comp x 1/2 adapter from a faucet? I have several leftovers. Probably straight threads as those go on the faucet shank and need a gasket but the male 1/2" there might be NPT hence the teflon?

I was going to let it spill into a bucket so as to not create a mud spot.

 

[Deadalus]

What's a good pressure setting?

 

[day_trippr]

Ok, a traveling rinser then. I have to say a keezer or kegerator mounted rinser is a bit easier to comprehend

What's a good pressure setting?

Check the specs on your rinser. Mine wanted a max pressure of 15 psi, so I added an inline pressure regulator between my pressure tank inside the keezer and the rinser. I peak the pressure tank to around 50 psi when I fill it via its dedicated post on the back of the keezer...

Cheers!

 

[Deadalus]

That's low pressure vs city water or even a well. Good idea for the regulator. to keep it fed. What type of threads did you end up having on the pressure regulator?

 

[Agent]

For that extra +1 bonus at a beer fest.

Definitely on my list.

 

[day_trippr]

Yeah, that pressure restriction kinda surprised me. I solved it with one of these:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00OKZX4CM
It uses 1/4" FPT ports which were easy enough to adapt to the EVABarrier tubing I use inside the keezer (brass 1/4" MPT to 1/4" MFL adapters screwed into the regulator followed by 1/4" FFL to 8mm OD JohnGuest PTC fittings)...

Cheers!

 

[Deadalus]

For that extra +1 bonus at a beer fest.

Definitely on my list.

Haha you got me! That's the first intended use! That's why I wanted it higher and visible.

 

[Deadalus]

Yeah, that pressure restriction kinda surprised me. I solved it with one of these:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00OKZX4CM
It uses 1/4" FPT ports which were easy enough to adapt to the EVABarrier tubing I use inside the keezer (brass 1/4" MPT to 1/4" MFL adapters screwed into the regulator followed by 1/4" FFL to 8mm OD JohnGuest PTC fittings)...

Cheers!

I can work with 1/4" NPT. A little pricey. The 3/8 compression was annoying, I wanted to go directly to flare and wasn't having any luck. Basically my approach but waiting on the rinser. Was thinking of adding a metal bar like the drip tray. The bars can slide under the cooler but my jockey box sits on a cart with wire shelving and the bars slide in between the shelf wiring. A bar would need to be wider than what I used previously, as the shank is probably the same width so timely post by @AlexKay if I get stuck!

 

[pvtpublic]

I have 9# on my glass rinsers, it'll clean the ceiling.

 

[day_trippr]

Lol yeah that'll happen

 

[AlexKay]

Outside jockey box station? That's what I am building it for primarily but may also consider one for my keezer. My rinser comes tomorrow! This is an option. I personally was looking to mount it near the drip tray that sits at the base of my jockey box. I have different idea but this is a reasonable fall back.

@AlexKay What did you use for the adapter on the feed coming in? Is that a male 3/8" compression by 1/2" female NPT adapter? I found a 3/8" male compression x 1/4" female NPT adapter. Then I had on hand a 1/4" flare x 1/4" male NPT adapter. So supply line to the first adapter then the second and now I can use an old gas line that had swivel barbs already on it and a 1/4 flare ball lock QD. Or vice versa. I had to use a SS adapter for the second one as all the brass ones I had sitting around had check valves going the wrong way.

Oh you must have had a leftover 3/8 comp x 1/2 adapter from a faucet? I have several leftovers. Probably straight threads as those go on the faucet shank and need a gasket but the male 1/2" there might be NPT hence the teflon?

I was going to let it spill into a bucket so as to not create a mud spot.

Yes, portable glass rinser, to bring to festivals, so I don't have to pour my beer into a glass with the remains of a smoothie sour or peanut-butter-cup stout still in it.

The glass rinser has a 1/2" sink fitting, and came with a 1/2-to-3/8" sink fitting hose. I used a 1/2" NPT bulkhead to anchor the input line to the lid of the bucket, and then a 3/8"-sink-fitting-to-1/2" NPT adaptor, and a 1/2" NPT ball lock post.

I picked a Gamma-seal bucket not because it's necessary or even useful to seal the run-off in, but because the lid is much more rigid.

 

[khannon]

Great job,

I built one similar to this, ended up going 12v pump run off a "drill" battery. It worked pretty well, benefit was easily refilling the reservoir as it was not pressurized, downside was some extra stuff and not being able to really dial up the pressure. I'll have to find some pictures.

I built mine to bring to festivals, but got a lot of crap from my fellow club members about it not being sanitary. putting the lip of the glass on the edge of the rubber that everyone else's beer has washed over.

I've been trying to figure a "no contact" option, maybe with a foot pedal activated switch?

 

[AlexKay]

I hadn't even thought to worry about sanitary. Maybe rinse with StarSan instead of water? Or a spray bottle of StarSan for the rubber piece between uses? Or a second input, so you could spray first with StarSan, and then with water...

 

[Deadalus]

That's what the alcohol in beer is for!

These are used in bars so would have some health regulations I'd imagine. But I wouldn't know if there were any recent changes. I have had bartenders rinse the glass between beers.

The reasoning for it is to cool the glass, rinse away any dust or other particles, and to make the glass slippery for a smoother pour. Starsan right after on the plate would probably be fine. Afterwards I think would be better as it would have a moment to sit. You wouldn't want Starsan mix instead of the water that would be a foamy mess! There's the lower foaming Five Star Saniclean but I think that still foams some and requires 2-3 minutes contact time.

Another possibility is to hit with a higher proof alcohol. Isopropyl alcohol comes to mind but possible ingestion, even though tiny, might not be considered food safe. Cheap vodka spritz maybe?

 

[Broken Crow]

Just curious... Why waste CO2? If a car-battery isn't too much to haul around, why not just use a 12V water pump?
(dunno if this link will work) https://www.amazon.com/bayite-Diaph...7370504&sprefix=12v+water+pump,aps,140&sr=8-9
You could simply recirculate from the bucket and change out the water periodically.
Just a thought.

 

[Closet Fermenter]

I've been trying to figure a "no contact" option,

This was my high pressure, no contact glass rinse setup at my first field test with my jockey box Worked great!

(Sorry friend; sometimes I just can’t resist. )

 

[khannon]

This was my high pressure, no contact glass rinse setup at my first field test with my jockey box Worked great!View attachment 858657

(Sorry friend; sometimes I just can’t resist. )

Wait, I thought those were only used for drinking from.. and, it would be a long hose to get from my house to a festival..

 

[Closet Fermenter]

Wait, I thought those were only used for drinking from.. and, it would be a long hose to get from my house to a festival..

No, this one has been modified with a high pressure spray nozzle; not appropriate for free flow drinking.
Now the length of hose issue is a whole’nuther problem.

 

[khannon]

No, this one has been modified with a high pressure spray nozzle; not appropriate for free flow drinking.
Now the length of hose issue is a whole’nuther problem.

I didn't say me, I meant my brother..

 

[pvtpublic]

Why not poke a hole in the cap of a bottle of Disani to rinse? Or a spray bottle?

 

[khannon]

I suppose it's all in what you are trying to do.. My club does 5-8 beer festivals a year, Those of us that man the club table tend to be more conservative(?) brewers brewing to styles that can get ruined by the smoothie sours, peanut butter and habanero stouts and the like. For us, having someone be able to rinse their glass means they try our beer, not the last person's beer again.

Having a portable solution to clean(ish)ing a glass quickly, and one that other people could do on their own is appealing. We usually have a cooler of water that can be used, but people also like novel.. We don't however want to responsible for the creation and spreading of "beer flu".

I was thinking maybe I could hook up a "step-on" bike pump to a rinser that someone could hold their glass over the rinse part, step on something, then it would stop..

Also, the portable part. Often we can't drive up to where we will be, and need to cart things in, I don't want to have something huge or complicated just so others can rinse their glass..

 

[Deadalus]

I suppose it's all in what you are trying to do.. My club does 5-8 beer festivals a year, Those of us that man the club table tend to be more conservative(?) brewers brewing to styles that can get ruined by the smoothie sours, peanut butter and habanero stouts and the like. For us, having someone be able to rinse their glass means they try our beer, not the last person's beer again.

Having a portable solution to clean(ish)ing a glass quickly, and one that other people could do on their own is appealing. We usually have a cooler of water that can be used, but people also like novel.. We don't however want to responsible for the creation and spreading of "beer flu".

I was thinking maybe I could hook up a "step-on" bike pump to a rinser that someone could hold their glass over the rinse part, step on something, then it would stop..

Also, the portable part. Often we can't drive up to where we will be, and need to cart things in, I don't want to have something huge or complicated just so others can rinse their glass..

Ok now the foot valve makes sense, you were thinking to bypass the plate actuator. I've used portable hand washing stations before where your foot does the pumping. Those are big plastic stations however.

Shoot I threw these out I am thinking but I bought two kegs that were emergency eyewash stations. One of the two sprayers on those could be a start. They worked off a paddle lever. I had kept them for a while too but I kept moving them around in storage and I just decided I had no use for them. I got a ten and a fifteen gallon keg on the cheaper side this way. But if you had a foot operated valve maybe the rinser plate could be rigged open or removed even. Maybe just use a stick, a pencil, or something to trigger the plate. Sanitize your hands first if one person using it or afterwards for multiple.

 

[Skeeter686]

Why?

My brew club was thinking about something like this for a charity event that we participate in. Just one example.

 

[Skeeter686]

I built mine to bring to festivals, but got a lot of crap from my fellow club members about it not being sanitary. putting the lip of the glass on the edge of the rubber that everyone else's beer has washed over.

I've been trying to figure a "no contact" option, maybe with a foot pedal activated switch?

That was basically why my club didn't build one. We were considering a foot pedal option, but I think the debate about the best approach didn't resolve soon enough for the event where we were planning to use it. I'd be curious if you come up with a final design.

 

[Deadalus]

Here's one. Not the best rated but cheap. There are others available, some with hot and cold even!

https://www.amazon.com/Floor-Mount-...d=17999328333584550364-B0BPSSNNDS-&hvexpln=73

 

[DavidWood2115]

I hadn't even thought to worry about sanitary. Maybe rinse with StarSan instead of water? Or a spray bottle of StarSan for the rubber piece between uses? Or a second input, so you could spray first with StarSan, and then with water...

You could mix up a batch of OneStep in your tank. It’s a no rinse cleaner with “sanitizing properties”. It is not a registered sanitizer, so the health department won’t be satisfied, but it should prevent a beer flu superspreader event.

I would be a little concerned about people drinking residual OneStep in their glasses, but you could build two of these for a OneStep wash and clean water rinser.

 

[mac_1103]

I've been to several very large beer festivals. And I mean large as in 80 or more breweries at baseball stadiums. You get a tasting glass when you enter and everybody rinses your glass before they pour your sample. I've never seen a no-contact rinser and never thought to ask if they were rinsing with anything other than water.

 

[Deadalus]

I've been to several very large beer festivals. And I mean large as in 80 or more breweries at baseball stadiums. You get a tasting glass when you enter and everybody rinses your glass before they pour your sample. I've never seen a no-contact rinser and never thought to ask if they were rinsing with anything other than water.

Was it common then that they had glass rinsers? The one I am attending showed blue cube water tanks, which made me think of building the glass rinser. I'm just going to spritz the rinser with Starsan post rinse.