Double IPA Pliny the Elder Clone

[jsun]

Real Pliny is pretty aggressively bitter.


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I disagree, I think it's really well balanced. To me, something like Sierra Nevada's Torpedo (70 IBUs) has a noticeably more harsh bitterness than Pliny (90-100 IBUs).

 

[ThirstyPawsHB]

I disagree, I think it's really well balanced. To me, something like Sierra Nevada's Torpedo (70 IBUs) has a noticeably more harsh bitterness than Pliny (90-100 IBUs).

Totally agree. With 1lbs of hops in the 5gallon batch still smoother then some retail beers.

 

[brewski09]

I find Pliny to be harsher than torpedo, but torpedo is pretty harsh too. It's a difference of 8 to 8.5 kinda thing.


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[secondbase]

Pliny was the first IPA I liked. I miss being able to get it on tap. I've added this to my brew list!

 

[CraigKing]

Bottling my Pliny within the next 1-2 days. Pretty excited.

 

[juggabrew]

I don't quite remember exactly how Pliny tasted as it's been nearly a year since I've had one. When I transferred my Pliny clone to secondary to dry hop, my wife and I sampled at it was CRAZY bitter. So much so that my wife thought it was ruined, but after dry hopping and carbing, it settled very nicely. Now it's been about 3 or 4 weeks since kegging and it's great. Don't worry if your initial samples seem too bitter, just give it time.

It's been about a month and it's still crazy bitter. Maybe I screwed up something. I did a second batch I just bottled and threw in left over hops from my wookie jack. Added more at 45 and 5 min. Sample tasted way better so we will see how this turns out. I remember Pliny having a very smooth hop flavor but never bitter


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[juggabrew]

I don't quite remember exactly how Pliny tasted as it's been nearly a year since I've had one. When I transferred my Pliny clone to secondary to dry hop, my wife and I sampled at it was CRAZY bitter. So much so that my wife thought it was ruined, but after dry hopping and carbing, it settled very nicely. Now it's been about 3 or 4 weeks since kegging and it's great. Don't worry if your initial samples seem too bitter, just give it time.

It's been about a month and it's crazy bitter. Maybe I screwed up something. I did a second batch I just bottled and threw in left over hops from my wookie jack. Added more at 45 and 5 min. Sample tasted way better so we will see how this turns out. I remember Pliny having a very smooth hop flavor but never bitter


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[juggabrew]

+1

It's been about a month and it's crazy bitter. Maybe I screwed up something. I did a second batch I just bottled and threw in left over hops from my wookie jack. Added more at 45 and 5 min. Sample tasted way better so we will see how this turns out. I remember Pliny having a very smooth hop flavor but never bitter


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[CraigKing]

Bottled my Pliny yesterday. I'm eagerly awaiting for it to bottle condition. The sample I tasted was very impressive. My OG was a little low and my FG ended up being a little higher, so my ABV is only 6.8%. Ultimately, I'm more interested in the taste than the ABV.

 

[ThirstyPawsHB]

Pretty much followed the recipe, Amarillo added FWH. After 1 week bottle conditioning, positively incredible. Smooth, very floral with fruity flavor and aroma. My 2nd recipe, this one is better.

 

[CraigKing]

^ What did you use to prime your beer?

 

[ThirstyPawsHB]

^ What did you use to prime your beer?

Used about .875oz corn sugar per gallon.

 

[ThirstyPawsHB]

Have to post. Hop bomb strainer for my TIPAs, such as Pliny the Younger

 

[CraigKing]

^ Any more pictures of the strainer in use?

 

[ThirstyPawsHB]

^ Any more pictures of the strainer in use?

Wednesday or Thursday...before football time

 

[ThirstyPawsHB]

Worked as intended. Test boil last night showed bubbles are getting caught at bottom so sliced a few holes. This was 150 mesh. Maybe 60 would work better. Inside the strainer never got above 200f when outside was boiling. So courser mesh and will invest in a bigger pot for next time. Start, end, removal pictures. 13oz hops total here.

 

[ThirstyPawsHB]

Clean-up...yeah

 

[Purdue22]

Get a hop spider and be done with it. Same idea already commercially available and better/easier to use in my opinion.


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[ThirstyPawsHB]

Clean up was easy. After dumping hops. Took out mesh and sprayed clean with garden hose. Total cost $40. For the price of a spider, i can have 2 with different mesh sizes.

 

[Purdue22]

$35.95 at more beer. Not attacking you, just letting others know if they have not heard. I just throw out the mesh bags with hops when I am finished so there is no clean up there. Bags range from 4-8 dollars depending on the scale you are brewing. Whatever works and keeps you happy is what I say.


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[ThirstyPawsHB]

This is part of the art IMHO.

 

[D-Train]

I just stopped by Northern Brewer and bought the ingredients for this. Can't wait. Trying 15mL hopshot for the 90 minute addition. Cost $56.96 according to Beersmith.

 

[ThirstyPawsHB]

I just stopped by Northern Brewer and bought the ingredients for this. Can't wait. Trying 15mL hopshot for the 90 minute addition. Cost $56.96 according to Beersmith.

I bought 1lb hops so like $30 for me. Curious on the hopshot. When you brewing?

 

[brewski09]

I've used hop shots in other beers and they worked well. You don't have the high amounts of vegetal matter so it's a little easier to handle/better yield with less loss to trub. I think they are rather well priced now that everyone is carrying them.

 

[D-Train]

I bought 1lb hops so like $30 for me. Curious on the hopshot. When you brewing?

What I mean is the entire recipe was $56.96... Grain, hops, hopshot, and yeast. If the whole recipe was $30 then kudos. Buying bulk grain and hops definitely had its benefit. Hopshot was $9 for the 3 syringes. Looks like brew day is Saturday. I'm tethered to the outside (nat gas) and it's the only day without rain in the forecast.

 

[ThirstyPawsHB]

What I mean is the entire recipe was $56.96... Grain, hops, hopshot, and yeast. If the whole recipe was $30 then kudos. Buying bulk grain and hops definitely had its benefit. Hopshot was $9 for the 3 syringes. Looks like brew day is Saturday. I'm tethered to the outside (nat gas) and it's the only day without rain in the forecast.

Ya, recalculated. Closer to 40. Lawnmowers are about 22. No matter making your own is $$$ in your pocket. Best wishes.

 

[ThirstyPawsHB]

I've used hop shots in other beers and they worked well. You don't have the high amounts of vegetal matter so it's a little easier to handle/better yield with less loss to trub. I think they are rather well priced now that everyone is carrying them.

You've sparked my interest. Thanks!

 

[The_Glue]

I just removed the first dryhop addition from the fermenter and it already smells awesome.
I used cent/citra/amarillo instead of ctz and now i am not even sure that i want ctz.
Do i rob myself of the Pliny experience if i just bottle it now instead of adding some ctz as the second dryhop addition?

 

[stonebrewer]

I've used hop shots in other beers and they worked well. You don't have the high amounts of vegetal matter so it's a little easier to handle/better yield with less loss to trub. I think they are rather well priced now that everyone is carrying them.

Each has their pluses and minuses IMHO. I love the fact that I have fewer hops, soaking up less eventual beer with the hop shot. However the hop shot is a sticky mess and makes cleanup a bit more work as it sticks to the boil kettle pretty good. I use the cans and syringes off Amazon so it results in about two brews for < 30 bucks, when doing a big IIPA like PtE clones. When doing a beer this big in hops, using CO2 extracted alpha acids is the way to go! They also have varietal hop shots now that I would like to try as later additions, though not sure how well that will work. Anyone tried 'em yet?

 

[D-Train]

To gelatin or not, that is the question. What does everyone else do with this recipe? I'm kegging next week. First dry hop was 3 days ago. I don't want to lose the hop aroma and am thinking no, but I've read that Vinnie does so it seems true to recipe.

Side note - I'll be at the brewery in 2 weeks and planned on bringing home a few bottles for side by side comparison. Can't wait!